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Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by plaetton: 1:07pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
DeepSight: But that is exactly what God is- a mental construct of the human mind. If God is more than that, then no evidence has been advanced so far as proof. You cannot , in one breath say that God is beyond the reaches of scientific investigation, and then in another breath, say that God is not a mental construct. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by analice107: 1:11pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
JackBizzle:You managed to convinced them that what? |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 1:14pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Perhaps God as the container of everything is just a Point. However where will we say that this point is located? I am speaking topologically. 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by plaetton: 1:17pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: But of course. Daahhhh!! Snake oil salesmen like sly fox Benny Him and other evangelical fraudsters have the wide, no, unlimited latitude to say just about anything , no matter how illogical, no matter how nonsensical, to the eager consumers of their craft. It doesn't ever have to make sense, and it seldom ever does. 3 Likes |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 2:10pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
plaetton: The less sense it makes the better. In order to bypass any critical faculties and directly access those faculties that will give the 'powerful and satisfying' feelings that he is talking about. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by RosaConsidine: 2:34pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
DeepSight: In a way it is part of what is being discussed. Existence in the absolute sense comprises of physical, metaphysical and/or ideological parts. As it stands, all things fall into the categories of being in existence or not in existence including the future and the unknown. Plainly put, in my opinion, God exists (regardless of what side of the religious divide you are on). Existence is a property. Nothing can be existence. Even If you say all existence is contained within God, then you are are using "all existence" as a noun to make it correct, not a verb which would be illogical. Like someone gave an example above, I'll give a different one. Usain Bolt may be the fastest man on earth but you can't say Bolt is speed because speed is intangible. Saying God is existence makes God intangible, meaning he doesn't have any actual attributes. 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by akintom(m): 2:42pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
RosaConsidine: The summary of which is that God is an idea, that has been conceptualized into religious knowledge. Just a legendary story badly constructed. 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 2:43pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO: Na lie.! My own was from the holy tablet sent from the mountains 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 2:45pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
analice107: That Jesus is not the only way. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by plaetton: 3:08pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Bingo! |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
DeepSight: I'm happy you found our jokes humorous 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 5:58pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Perhaps you're talking nonsense and postulating. Have I ever sounded like I was theorizing in what I have said so far? No. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 6:04pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:I pointed out that what he said was powerful and satisfying because I had pondered and come to realize those things myself, only to be inspired even more when someone with more influence said same. I'm now quite sure you have some comprehension problems. You probably never read the OP completely. Very funny when the group of you concur. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by plaetton: 6:06pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by plaetton: 6:10pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Josh, Pls don't tell me that you respect and follow that greesy, sleezy slimeball called Benny Hinn. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 6:12pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Perhaps in your world I'm talking nonsense and postulating but Mathematically speaking (Topology in fact) a Point does contain the entire universe. I could not say whether or not you were theorizing or whatever in what you've said so far. But I do not imagine that you believe yourself to have a personal tete a tete relationship with 'Existence' itself. I mean a relationship that only members of your cult have and no one else. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 6:14pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: At least we can agree that you've had a very deeply powerful and satisfying experience. Yes? Where we will agree to disagree is about what has brought about the experience. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 6:24pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Wait....is joshthefirst using jazz? This thread should have died on arrival! PastorAIO killed it but it still lives on! God is existence.......lol.......How can something be existence? |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Joshthefirst(m): 7:38pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Mathematically speaking the universe was once a point. No where does maths state a point contains the entire universe. Dont start spouting falsehood in your directionlessness sir. With logical thought, outside of our physical reality and it's dimensions is a transcendent infinity; God's presence in pervasive limitlessness. Asking if God can create a greater consciousness is an illogical question. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by cloudgoddess(f): 8:08pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
This thread is very entertaining |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 8:09pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 8:26pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: In mathematics, topology (from the Greek τόπος, place, and λόγος, study) is concerned with the properties of space that are preserved under continuous deformations, such as stretching and bending, but not tearing or gluing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-eJW0gEm5w |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by analice107: 8:28pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
JackBizzle:Which other way is there? |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 8:30pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Oh, so we do care about logic in this matter after all. I thought it was irrelevant to Faith-based cultists. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 8:31pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO: Informative video. Well done, sir. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by JackBizzle: 8:32pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
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Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Thank you sir. Topology is the study of spatial relations. a pebble that is situated inside of a ball can never be situated outside of the ball without tearing the skin of the ball. There is no way that you can twist or wangle the ball so that the pebble will end up situated outside the ball. Topologically speaking the pebble's spatial relationship to the ball is to be contained within the ball. In other words there is no way that the pebble can pass from inside the ball to outside the ball without tearing the skin of the ball. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by Kay17: 11:11pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
DeepSight: I doubt if amongst the properties of personhood is existence. Personhood is one idea while existence is another. They are not mutually exclusive 1 Like |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 11:35pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Kay17: Bingo!! I was shocked that the guy seemed to not know the meaning of the word. But apparently he doesn't. One definition of Person would be a set of observable characteristics that mark an entity as distinct. A Fictional person does NOT exist. Christianity goes so far as to attribute to one being, namely God, 3 distinct persons. The word Person comes from the latin word Persona which is the original term for a Mask. When an actor puts on a Persona (mask) he then plays the part of that person in the play. The very same actor can then put on a different Persona (mask) for a different scene and then play the part of the other Person. The person is nothing other than the set of characteristics that define a being (within a certain context). Someone who believes in reincarnation can see the soul as transmigrating from one person to another person. person (n.) Look up person at Dictionary.com http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=person |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by PastorAIO: 11:48pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
winner01: Not one, not Two...... , [size=14pt]but in fact Three persons[/size]. Thank you for correcting me. |
Re: God Does Not 'EXIST' by DeepSight(m): 1:11pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
Kay17: I am at a loss as to how this comment is of any relevance to my comments above given that a person (or personhood) can only be conceived of within existence or as something existent. Indeed, there is nothing that can be conceived of without existence or as not being existent. For this reason, your comment - and AIO's revert above - is meaningless. Period. |
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