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Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 2:51pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:I am not your coeval |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 2:51pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. Merriam-Webster LogoSINCE 1828 MENU GAMES THESAURUS WORD OF THE DAY VIDEO WORDS AT PLAY FAVORITES Follow: vocabularyplay noun vo·cab·u·lary \vō-ˈka-byə-ˌler-ē, və-\ Popularity: Top 20% of words Simple Definition of vocabulary : the words that make up a language : all of the words known and used by a person : words that are related to a particular subject Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary Examples: vocabulary in a sentence Full Definition of vocabulary plural vocabularies 1 : a list or collection of words or of words and phrases usually alphabetically arranged and explained or defined : lexicon 2 a : a sum or stock of words employed by a language, group, individual, or work or in a field of knowledge b : a list or collection of terms or codes available for use (as in an indexing system) 3 : a supply of expressive techniques or devices (as of an art form) See vocabulary defined for English-language learners See vocabulary defined for kids See words that rhyme with vocabulary Related to vocabulary quiz The Vocabulary Test From Hell Examples of vocabulary in a sentence the basic vocabulary of English She has learned a lot of new vocabulary. He has a somewhat limited vocabulary. Reading helped to expand her vocabulary. the vocabulary of the art world The Internet has given us a whole new vocabulary. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 2:55pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. Coeval or age mate or contemporary, whatever you call it. I only corrected you because you erred. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 2:55pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:I am not sure what your point is perhaps you can explain because I am confused |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:What exactly were you correcting |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 2:59pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. As written above, you said it should be vocabulary not vocabularies and you assumed is a typo. I said he is right by using the word vocabularies(plural). |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 3:00pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:I really am waiting to hear from you so please explain how or where I erred and what the "Correction" is . Please do not disappoint me |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 3:05pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. I have explained to you already |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 3:16pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:Okay I see what you mean but I will educate you because you are ignorant. This is what he said musicwriter: Firstly as I pointed out the spelling was wrong. I accept that was a TYPO. Next should he have said vocabularies or vocabulary? I believe he should not have used the word vocabulary AT ALL ( but pointed out I have ONE VOCABULARY)and also the word "few" was wrong. First, assuming you are right then it should have been A FEW VOCABULARIES and NOT "FEW VOCABULARIES" but anyway I assert it should have been vocabulary and not vocabularies. I did not say the word does not have a plural form it does but it was wrong to use it as he did. Why ? He was referring to me showing off few vocabularies(sic) in my arsenal. What is this "arsenal" he was referring to ? Essentially a list of collection of words in other words my "VOCABULARY". My vocabulary refers to the words I know in a language or part of the language e.g My Legal vocabulary, My computing vocabulary,my mathematics vocabulary are different sub-vocabularies of my English vocabulary and that is the sense in which "vocabularies" may be applied . I cannot have "few vocabularies" in an arsenal . Oghene ma biko!!. To use "vocabularies" as he did to refer so "words" that were part of an "arsenal" was wrong and bad. To prefix it with few as in few vocabularies is an egregious solecism. So your emergence from whatever obscure place you have come from with your feeble defence of his embarrassing offering is and I say this with all humility,quite daft and ignorant. Educate and inform yourself properly before subjecting yourself to unnecessary ridicule |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by ibnjarir93(m): 3:27pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:Posting ignorance after ignorance. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 3:29pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
ibnjarir93:AB0KI MI, I See that you have annoyance with me Pinally. Flease don't annoy |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 3:48pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. If vocabulary counts, you would have been the President of Federal Republic of Nigeria. In fact, you are not close to the power that matters in this country. Keep your vocabulary with you. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 3:52pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
EdoBoy90:Well if you are interested in becoming the president that is your problem as well as that of your family. Nothing to do with me. You came out of your kernel,unleashed and foaming at the mouth to correct me.Now that I have put your rope back on your scrawny neck you are talking of President. Silly talk, run along and stop barking!! |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by musicwriter(m): 3:53pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Before showing off your English prowers to those who don't know, I ddn't say you're an educated person because you can write finer English than others. Take note of that. May be you studied English, may be you studied in England, may be you lived in England, may be you read a lot of novels. There're many reasons one can speak good English. But, speaking English fluently doesn't equate to education. Of course, the mind of slaves that we currently have means we'll find this difficult to understand. But, when you understand that Russians, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Germans, are also educated, then you'll undestand what I' am talking about. A time is coming here in Africa when people like you would wake up one morning to find out your education has become useless. then you'll begin running to Britain. It happened in Vietnam. Vietnam was colonized by France and they spoke and studied in French. When Vietnamese people finally opened their eyes and took control of their native language as a language of instruction in school, the so called educated French speaking Vietnamese became the new illiterates and they started running to France and Canada. Very funny. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 3:55pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda:. You are the one who is barking Mr. Young man. Saying we are not coeval. You don't know me and I don't know you either. Stop bragging. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by EdoBoy90(m): 4:17pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Some dudes here English is their achievements. They don't have a practical knowledge to solve complex problems like Mrs. Kemi Adeosun. They have nothing to offer apart from English. See real life problems to solve, they are dumbfounded. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by Ugosample(m): 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter: I still think it is possible to develop with English as our official language tho.... we just have to be serious people. That's my thought tho..... |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 4:27pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter:We can communicate in Yoruba if you like ?? |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 4:33pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
The subject of this thread is whether speaking English as first language at home in Nigeria promotes academic excellence. I maintain that it DOES NOT. It does not even assure mastery of English language or superior mastery compared to those who speak their mother tongues rather I contend the opposite to be the case |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by musicwriter(m): 4:46pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Ugosample: So, did many countries, until they realized they must take control of their native languages. Again, no country in the world has ever industrialized speaking a foreign language. The most developed countries remain those that speak their own native languages. Whether you check G8 countries or world powers or first world countries, they're always the countries that learn in their own language. Do the research yourself. You cannot develop speaking the language of foreigners!. If a nation speak a foreign language, such nation will also be ruled by those who own the language!!. If you worship a foreign God, you'll serve foreigners who own the God. This is the law of nature, not my law!! |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 5:02pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter:This is just rubbish. You like to assert stuff with bizarre authority. Countries have been taking over one another since the beginning of time. The Irish pretty much speak English as their main language and they have developed nicely. Where the process is completed there may be only vestigial evidence of the old language or something new (a mixture of the old and new) takes its place. There is no such law as that which you assert. Empires arose and imposed language(s) AND Identity on millions of people and that is how new nations came about with new languages. Latin is dead and English is alive. English as we know it is a new language less than two thousand years old.China that we know today is a perfect example of such Empire building and deletion of identities |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by Nobody: 5:09pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
to me i personaly tink dat usin our dialect is better because if u observe ol dis advanced country they use their local languages as their official language nd then ny other language ...i tink if we can adopt our local lang we would hav been far better than we now |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by musicwriter(m): 5:17pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Oh boy stop quoting me typing your rubbish, unless you know one country that industrialised speaking a foreign language. I wasn't talking to you. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 5:42pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter:I already did the Republic of Ireland ![]() |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 6:49pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter:Singapore?? |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by CookieBrown: 7:38pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
musicwriter: A Language is nothing more than a means of communication. I really don't know why Africans are so emotional, you all have finally derailed this thread, however, I will indulge you. Going by your weird sense of logic, poor infrastructural development, poor road networks, a failing economy, and poor education are to be blamed on having English as an official language? Don't ever compare English with any native Nigerian language because it is far advanced and more developed than ours, not because it's a language of the Englishman or should I say, the white man but because it was developed by the native speakers, in all areas of society. Now tell me, what areas in Economics, Politics, science and technology can our native languages be used for? Again, no country in the world has ever industrialized speaking a foreign language - Have you ever heard of the following countries: 1. The U.S.A? A former British colony now occupied by migrant Europeans, Ex African slaves, Mexicans, and Native Americans. They all speak English as the official language and they are one of the most developed in the world. 2. Brazil? A former Portuguese colony occupied by the Natives, Mulatos, Africans and others. They all speak Portuguese! 3. Mexico? An Ex Spanish colony previously controlled by the Aztecs and other natives just before the Spanish arrived. These are just a few examples, but keep in mind, they are way developed than we are. Now let's mention countries which speak their native languages as the official mode of communication. Somalia, Tanzania, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Philippines, Myanmar, Oman, e.t.c. Why aren't they developed with a prospering economy? The answer is simple, the language you speak does not determine or guarantee your intellectual ability or a nation's development in any areas of civilization. A nation can only move forward and develop itself if it's citizens are committed, patriotic and have the right mindset to prosper. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by bukynkwuenu: 8:23pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:empty brain |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by airsaylongcon: 9:34pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
bukynkwuenu: Oh! U mean "tabula rasa". A blank sheet |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by bukynkwuenu: 11:01pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:ya..all join......no bi me invent english |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by musicwriter(m): 3:19am On Nov 01, 2016 |
CookieBrown: It therefore follows that one would be better off understanding information communicated in his/her native language. Research from various independent bodies show that's the case. A Japanese would understand better if you communicate him in his native Japanese language. A Yoruba man would understand better if you communicate him in Yoruba. An Igbo man will understand better if you communicate him in Igbo. e.t.c, e.t.c. I really don't know why Africans are so emotional, you all have finally derailed this thread, however, I will indulge you. Going by your weird sense of logic, poor infrastructural development, poor road networks, a failing economy, and poor education are to be blamed on having English as an official language? No one is being emotional here, but trying to reset your mindset that've been long ruined via English. Yes, poor infrastructural development arise only in those societies that haven't been able to use their own language to learn how to build their own infrastructure. Yes, poor road networks arise because a society has not advanced his language such that they could use it to build their own roads. Yes, failing economy arise in countries that are unable to use their native language to learn enough to solve their economic problems. Yes, poor education arise only in countries that haven't used their native language to understand pedagogy- how to conduct the business of education. Indeed, all the countries that exhibit any of the problem you listed, are countries who don't study in their native language. Don't ever compare English with any native Nigerian language because it is far advanced and more developed than ours, not because it's a language of the Englishman or should I say, the white man but because it was developed by the native speakers, in all areas of society. Now tell me, what areas in Economics, Politics, science and technology can our native languages be used for? If you knew the history of English language you'll know this is very laughable!. For your information, Britain was also occupied and partially enslaved. At some point in their national lives Britain spoke the languages of their captors - Rome, Greeks, Germans, French, Latin, Spanish. Before 1362 English language itself wasn't even an official language yet as Britain was still recovering from effects of slavery, and was still speaking the languages of their captors. English language then was still an underdog forsaken language only spoken by illiterates and peasants across the British isle- exactly the same way as our various native African languages are today relegated to the back seat. It was after Britain took control of their native English language starting from 1616 that the language of Economics, Politics, science and technology was proactively being added into the English vocabulary. Again, before then, the official language in Britain was a mix of Greek, German, French, Latin, Spanish, which was the language of their captors. Their native English suffered exactly the same fate as our native African languages. English then was as scanty as our abandoned native African languages. Note that even though English became an official language in 1362, it took Britain between 1362-1616 (254 years!) to realize they must take control of their native English language as language of knowledge acquisition in school. Do you know why it took such a long time? Because, educated people in Britain then- those who spoke fluent Greeks, Germans, French, Latin, Spanish- the language of their captors were making the same argument you're making now!!!!!!!!. The elites and educated fools in Britain who spoke fluent Greek, German, French, Latin, Spanish also rubbished English language saying it was not good enough for learning Economics, Politics, science and technology. How ironic, today you're a slave to English language and you also rubbish our native African language in favor of English!!. If you understand how naive you sound in the face of history, you'll be ashamed for the rest of your life for making same argument against your native African language. Again, no country in the world has ever industrialized speaking a foreign language - Have you ever heard of the following countries: USA was a European settlement; just like Australia, Canada, New Zealand. The colonialists developed those settlements because they planned to live there. It was second home to them. Therefore, its very wrong when you people quote USA as an enslaved nation. The only people that were enslaved in the USA were your same old African slave imports. The slaves in the Americas were African imports not Americans!. Mexicans and other native Americans refused to be enslaved and mostly retreated into the woods. If you're talking about killing the native Americans, yes. The colonialists made every effort to exterminate the local population wherever they wanted as a settlement (to live). 2. Brazil? A former Portuguese colony occupied by the Natives, Mulatos, Africans and others. They all speak Portuguese! Brazil is a struggling third world country and doesn't meet the requirement. 3. Mexico? An Ex Spanish colony previously controlled by the Aztecs and other natives just before the Spanish arrived. Mexico is a struggling third world country and doesn't meet the requirement. These are just a few examples, but keep in mind, they are way developed than we are. This's not true!. There's no significant difference between development in Brazil or Mexico and Nigeria for instance, unless of course, you're judging from your recent tele novella series which show you the best part of their cities. Now let's mention countries which speak their native languages as the official mode of communication. Somalia, Tanzania, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Philippines, Myanmar, Oman, e.t.c. Why aren't they developed with a prospering economy? Aside Somalia and Oman, English remains the language of knowledge acquisition in the rest of the countries you mentioned. I've said before that speaking your native language is one thing. Using it as a language of knowledge acquisition is another. Somalia couldn't develop because it has never been a country at peace. Oman couldn't develop because its not a democratic state allowing it's people to aspire to their best in life. Wealth is being controlled by the monarchs across the middle East. The answer is simple, the language you speak does not determine or guarantee your intellectual ability or a nation's development in any areas of civilization. A nation can only move forward and develop itself if it's citizens are committed, patriotic and have the right mindset to prosper. This's a blatant lie, unless you are genuinely ignorant of what obtainable. Using your native language to acquire knowledge boosts your comprehension capability and over time will your intellectual ability. Several research has been conducted on this by various independent bodies, including the Obafemi Awolowo University as someone said here previously. Every result shows someone taught in their native language learn better. |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by omonnakoda: 10:16pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
musicwriter:You can make your ridiculous assertions and create fantasy "requirements" to fit your make believe version of reality always realize that many are on hand to kick that fantasy into the dustbin where it belongs. According to You BRAZIL and Mexico the number 8 and 15 economies in the world are struggling third world economies ![]() I asked you about Ireland,what about Singapore and Switzerland and Austria and Belgium. Keep deluding yourself and shifting the goalposts but your assertions are just hot air |
Re: “Does Speaking Of English As First Language Promotes Academic Excellence?” by musicwriter(m): 1:05am On Nov 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: You don't understand the context of my theory, that's why you don't deserve a response. My theory applies to "colonized third world countries" not European nations. The person I responded to understands my theory cause he clearly know what I stand for, but here you're talking off point countries like Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium. These are European nations for God's sake and can always absorb each others language for their own good. The only country you mentioned that deserve a response is Singapore. And there's a reason it developed. Singapore is an expatriate dominated country full of skilled foreigners who are non citizens of that country. Majority Singaporeans themselves remains at the back seat working for foreign conglomerates. |
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