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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:35pm On Nov 02, 2016
Greatihex:
you are the same person that said that Barcelona trashing of man city in the first leg has nothing to do with pep's tactics but his players foolish errors. Why is that you have failed to see that man city winning was down to silly errors from Barcelona players and not pep's tactics?
Your sentiments has always been your problem. You attach sentiments a lot to your analysis of view of the game that makes you sound childish atimes.

Nonetheless, I will credit pep for some things in that game. Firstly, he realised that it is his tactics that cost him the first game and he corrected it by bringing in aguero.
He was about making the same mistake he made last time in the first half by trying to give Barcelona full pressing (evident from the first goal), but he corrected that in the second half.

Arsenal was outplaying Barcelona for 70 minutes at the Emirates last season until they made the same mistake city made in the first half yesterday.
How can you be playing a corner kick against Barca with all your players in Barcelona's half when you know they have very fast and clinical attackers.

I will say, credit to pep for learning some lessons. Hope he keeps it in mind in case of next time.

In all, Barcelona individual errors and Pep's adjustment and subs in the second half won city the game.


First game it was City matched Barcelona until they started making those errors like Fernandinho slipping, like Gundogan and Kdb passing to opponent like Bravo handling the ball outside the area

And it wasnt any 2nd half sub, City was already leading before they made any sub

In what world was Arsenal outplaying Barcelona in Emirates last season? You mean anyone that managed to have 1 orr 2 shot on goal vs Barca is outplaying them?

That game, Barcelona had 15 shots and Arsenal had just 8. It was only Cech that kept the scoreline respectable

Yesterday we saw City having almost 8 clear chances vs Barcelona. That is more than most teams have managed vs Barca in recent times

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:45pm On Nov 02, 2016
landinfo:
Woooow.....now I see why pple hate Pep (his style of footie coupled with the success it brings is a constant reminder on why pple have cum to jettison Joses')

N.b. That was why Conte was angry @ the Skepke fans for being quiet when Jose came visiting

You spoke well. If you see how a team like City can reduce the almighty Barcelona to yesterday with full MSN. That is why rich owners will try everything to get Pep, thats why almost all young managers are trying to copy Pep and learning from Pep.

Bayern management watched Peps Barca and decided they want a team like that, City watched Pep and they decided they will buy everything to make them play like that. Wenger said anytime Pep is available all coaches job are put in doubt

WHile Pep was at Bayern, Zidane, Makelele and Viera all former players or managers under Mourinho will visit Bayern training to learn from Pep methods how many times do we see them going to visit to learn from Mourinho's outdated tactics, even other coaches like Tuchel, Pocchetino Koeman all openly admires Guardiola style and try to play like him

Who are those who try to play like Mourinho? The Allardyce, Tony Pulis and other perpetual midtable coaches who play 19th century football (according to Mourinho himself)

Thats one of the reason Roman fired Jose in his first tenure, he was winning but not winning in style. If you have money and want to spend, you will want to be dominant, you want to win in style not to meet your mates and park the bus like Tony Pulis after spending half a billion

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 3:02pm On Nov 02, 2016
Beat Barca in a knockout game 2x with all at stake like Jose did then he can talk
Not winning second legs after being raped in the first....same thing he did with Bayern


Barca completely relaxed,they knew they had no pp,play a serious Barca

Where was this Pep at camp nou or Calderon or Santiago.....Its not about winning,it winning when it matters

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:34pm On Nov 02, 2016
bigkesh:
Beat Barca in a knockout game 2x with all at stake like Jose did then he can talk
Not winning second legs after being raped in the first....same thing he did with Bayern


Barca completely relaxed,they knew they had no pp,play a serious Barca

Where was this Pep at camp nou or Calderon or Santiago.....Its not about winning,it winning when it matters

I don't know what you guys are saying but yesterday's game was a serious game. Just give pep the credit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 3:48pm On Nov 02, 2016
donjazet:

I don't know what you guys are saying but yesterday's game was a serious game. Just give pep the credit.
9 points vs 4 points isn't the definition of serious
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:52pm On Nov 02, 2016
bigkesh:
Beat Barca in a knockout game 2x with all at stake like Jose did then he can talk
Not winning second legs after being raped in the first....same thing he did with Bayern


Barca completely relaxed,they knew they had no pp,play a serious Barca

Where was this Pep at camp nou or Calderon or Santiago.....Its not about winning,it winning when it matters


You know Barca hasn't actually qualified for knock out rounds yet?

They are only 2 losses away from Europa League. Last night's result wanna matter die...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Nov 02, 2016
bigkesh:
Beat Barca in a knockout game 2x with all at stake like Jose did then he can talk
Not winning second legs after being raped in the first....same thing he did with Bayern


Barca completely relaxed,they knew they had no pp,play a serious Barca

Where was this Pep at camp nou or Calderon or Santiago.....Its not about winning,it winning when it matters


You mean City winning yesterday does not matter? and the 3 points they got which boosted their chances of making 2nd round doesnt matter?

I wonder what matters then
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 4:35pm On Nov 02, 2016
Luis Enrique says first 45 minutes was one of the best spells Barca have had


Which team plays one of its best football in a season in a dead rubber match?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:49pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


You know Barca hasn't actually qualified for knock out rounds yet?

They are only 2 losses away from Europa League. Last night's result wanna matter die...

Against who? Celtic and that German team? grin

Barca are cruising from when they hit 9 points mehn.

See Raumdeuter ejakulating all over the place because Pep finally beat a team higher ranked than his. 9 times out of 10, playing a better team, he gets disgraced whilst likes of Simeone are constantly beating Barca where it matters. We no fit hear word again because Pep has finally managed it. He tried it at Bayern and got disgraced 3 years in a row, what makes any sane person think he can do with City players what he disgracefully failed at with Bayern players?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:01pm On Nov 02, 2016
Ibime:


Against who? Celtic and that German team? grin

Barca are cruising from when they hit 9 points mehn.

See Raumdeuter ejakulating all over the place because Pep finally beat a team higher ranked than his. 9 times out of 10, playing a better team, he gets disgraced whilst likes of Simeone are constantly beating Barca where it matters. We no fit hear word again because Pep has finally managed it. He tried it at Bayern and got disgraced 3 years in a row, what makes any sane person think he can do with City players what he disgracefully failed at with Bayern players?

They lose to Celtic in Glasgow(Which has happened before) and their top position and even qualification becomes doubtful. So the game was not dead rubber. You cant play a dead rubber game when your qualification and position in the group is still in doubt

Not only Pep beat them, He beat the best team in Europe for the past decade without playing like a coward He could have parked it like Mourinho and Tony Pulis and hoped for the counter or dead ball, but he showed balls and took the game to Barca something critics like you claimed was suicidal.

When he did it vs Barca as Bayern coach you led the chorus of those laughing at him for attempting suicide.
he did the suicidal way and won and outshot and pummeled Barca what many teams cannot claim was not possible. Pep did the impossible

I am still waiting for someone to show me a game where the opponent won Barca without parking the bus and having more shot at goal vs Barca with MSN

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:11pm On Nov 02, 2016
raumdeuter:


First game it was City matched Barcelona until they started making those errors like Fernandinho slipping, like Gundogan and Kdb passing to opponent like Bravo handling the ball outside the area

And it wasnt any 2nd half sub, City was already leading before they made any sub

In what world was Arsenal outplaying Barcelona in Emirates last season? You mean anyone that managed to have 1 orr 2 shot on goal vs Barca is outplaying them?

That game, Barcelona had 15 shots and Arsenal had just 8. It was only Cech that kept the scoreline respectable

Yesterday we saw City having almost 8 clear chances vs Barcelona. That is more than most teams have managed vs Barca in recent times
they were leading courtesy of two individual errors from Barcelona players (the same thing you used as defence for pep last time.

Was it not at Emirates that Barcelona barely had a shot for 45 minutes, with arsenal creating more chances and threatening more.

I reiterate, some credit should be given to pep though, it doesn't take away the fact that he is not tactically sound as mou.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:14pm On Nov 02, 2016
Ibime:


Against who? Celtic and that German team? grin

Barca are cruising from when they hit 9 points mehn.

See Raumdeuter ejakulating all over the place because Pep finally beat a team higher ranked than his. 9 times out of 10, playing a better team, he gets disgraced whilst likes of Simeone are constantly beating Barca where it matters. We no fit hear word again because Pep has finally managed it. He tried it at Bayern and got disgraced 3 years in a row, what makes any sane person think he can do with City players what he disgracefully failed at with Bayern players?

It's not that Pep beat Barca that is being discussed. It's how Pep beat Barca.

Rewind to first leg and how many dudes on here were claiming that Pep lost because he refused to bunker. Even you sef wey no watch match dey laugh me when I mentioned Pep's tactics.

Pep went toe to toe with Barca, and didn't just win, he annihilated them. I hope you watched the game. If not for some profligacy from Kun, Sterling, and KDB, the scores could have been very embarassing.

Pep beat Barca 3-1, and the result still flattered Barca. That's why Dayo is ranting. Guy, City played masterful football last night.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:19pm On Nov 02, 2016
And they compare him to lukaku kiss

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:22pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


It's not that Pep beat Barca that is being discussed. It's how Pep beat Barca.

Rewind to first leg and how many dudes on here were claiming that Pep lost because he refused to bunker. Even you sef wey no watch match dey laugh me when I mentioned Pep's tactics.

Pep went toe to toe with Barca, and didn't just win, he annihilated them. I hope you watched the game. If not for some profligacy from Kun, Sterling, and KDB, the scores could have been very embarassing.

Pep beat Barca 3-1, and the result still flattered Barca. That's why Dayo is ranting. Guy, City played masterful football last night.

Who gives a phuck how Pep beat Barca!

When it matters, Pep has always been disgraced by Barca and Madrid playing open football.

And when he meets them in serious game, they will disgrace him again.

Simeone has been beating Barca constantly where it matters, something Pep can only dream of. We don't give a phuck if Pep finally managed to get something in an unimportant game, and keeps being disgraced in the main games - not when his mates are beating Barca playing their own style of footie.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:24pm On Nov 02, 2016
Ibime:


Who gives a phuck how Pep beat Barca!

When it matters, Pep has always been disgraced by Barca and Madrid playing open football.

And when he meets them in serious game, they will disgrace him again.

Simeone has been beating Barca constantly where it matters, something can only dream of. We don't give a phuck if Pep finally managed to get something in an unimportant game, and keeps being disgraced in the main games - not when his mates are beating Barca playing their own style of footie.




See yarns grin

Anyway see below...

But while the result will go down as another significant milestone in the club’s Champions League story, the manner of the victory – how Guardiola’s player beat Barcelona at their own game – is surely the most important factor from a result which leaves City well-placed to qualify from Group C. - The Independent

This was a win achieved with all the Guardiola hallmarks, in a blaze of attacking football, passing, movement and a willingness to take on the best without forsaking his principles. - BBC

Manchester City’s attack were truly outstanding in Tuesday’s comeback victory over Barcelona: a victory that few expected but was unquestionably the best European night in Sheikh Mansour’s reign. Scoring three times after having gone behind to the world’s greatest strikeforce is impressive enough, but shutting Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez and Neymar out while actively going in search of goals really is testament to how far Pep Guardiola’s side have already come - The Telegraph

If a movie opened to these kind of reviews, na Oscars straight!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:27pm On Nov 02, 2016
raumdeuter:

Not only Pep beat them, He beat the best team in Europe for the past decade without playing like a coward

Keep consoling yourself with this rubbish. We will still be here to laugh at you when playing like a lion gets him hammered 5-0 later.

Or you think that what he couldn't do with Kroos, Schweini, Tiago, Alaba and co, he would be able to do with Stones and Fernandinho?

We would still be here to laugh.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:29pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


See yarns grin

Anyway see below...

But while the result will go down as another significant milestone in the club’s Champions League story, the manner of the victory – how Guardiola’s player beat Barcelona at their own game – is surely the most important factor from a result which leaves City well-placed to qualify from Group C. - The Independent

This was a win achieved with all the Guardiola hallmarks, in a blaze of attacking football, passing, movement and a willingness to take on the best without forsaking his principles. - BBC

Manchester City’s attack were truly outstanding in Tuesday’s comeback victory over Barcelona: a victory that few expected but was unquestionably the best European night in Sheikh Mansour’s reign. Scoring three times after having gone behind to the world’s greatest strikeforce is impressive enough, but shutting Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez and Neymar out while actively going in search of goals really is testament to how far Pep Guardiola’s side have already come - The Telegraph

If a movie opened to these kind of reviews, na Oscars straight!

Is it not English press ejakulating as usual? Why because they played toe to toe with Andre Gomes in the midfield?

Even Bate Borisov did not make this much noise when they beat Bayern.

We go still dey here na. Knockout stage is coming.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 5:31pm On Nov 02, 2016
Greatihex:
they were leading courtesy of two individual errors from Barcelona players (the same thing you used as defence for pep last time.

Was it not at Emirates that Barcelona barely had a shot for 45 minutes, with arsenal creating more chances and threatening more.

I reiterate, some credit should be given to pep though, it doesn't take away the fact that he is not tactically sound as mou.
Lmao. Mourinho is tactically sound but Pep is not??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:36pm On Nov 02, 2016
lordfalcao:
And they compare him to lukaku kiss

Don't go there bro.

Diego Costa started playing football when Lukaku was only 12 years old, and only has only 15 more career goals to show for it.

Don't go there at all.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:37pm On Nov 02, 2016
Ibime:


Is it not English press ejakulating as usual? Why because they played toe to toe with Andre Gomes in the midfield?

Even Bate Borisov did not make this much noise when they beat Bayern.

We go still dey here na. Knockout stage is coming.

So once if he fails in knockout, wetin be the endpoint? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 5:42pm On Nov 02, 2016
Pep Said this though

"We competed with Barcelona, but for now we did it in a different way. We played more long balls because we are still not ready to keep the ball and play like they do."

Source: BBC


I'll let the arguing parties make use of whatever they make from it. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:48pm On Nov 02, 2016
lalaboi:
Pep Said this though

"We competed with Barcelona, but for now we did it in a different way. We played more long balls because we are still not ready to keep the ball and play like they do."

Source: BBC


I'll let the arguing parties make use of whatever they make from it. grin


Forget that, Pep was obviously being very modest to his alma mater. Pep battered and bruised his compatriot so tey Enrique turn Wizkid.

When asked by Spanish media to describe what happened, Enrique was at a loss.

'I have not got an explanation,' he said. 'There is no explanation.'

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:57pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


Don't go there bro.

Diego Costa started playing football when Lukaku was only 12 years old, and only has only 15 more career goals to show for it.

Don't go there at all.
we have already gone there before and stats I showed you stated that Costa have more goals than lukaku. grin Costa have not even played half the matches lukaku have played but he has scored 80% of lukaku's goal cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:00pm On Nov 02, 2016
The only reason they hate pep is because he always disgraces mourinho. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:00pm On Nov 02, 2016
Greatihex:
they were leading courtesy of two individual errors from Barcelona players (the same thing you used as defence for pep last time.

Was it not at Emirates that Barcelona barely had a shot for 45 minutes, with arsenal creating more chances and threatening more.

I reiterate, some credit should be given to pep though, it doesn't take away the fact that he is not tactically sound as mou.

How did a freekick scored by debruyne become an individual error. Only the first goal was a forced error and was because City were pressing them high

If City wasnt pressing them high no way that goal will come.

Barcelona has 16 shots vs Arsenal at EMirates, Are you saying all those 16 shots came in the the second half?. Arsenal threatened more yet created less shots at home vs Barca

Is this not this same match report from UEFA

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2016/matches/round=2000635/match=2015766/postmatch/statistics/index.html
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:06pm On Nov 02, 2016
lordfalcao:
we have already gone there before and stats I showed you stated that Costa have more goals than lukaku. grin Costa have not even played half the matches lukaku have played but he has scored 80% of lukaku's goal cheesy

I dey on the move now. We take it up on a different day. I will not allow anybody slander the reputation of my hero.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:13pm On Nov 02, 2016
Ibime:
Who gives a phuck how Pep beat Barca!

When it matters, Pep has always been disgraced by Barca and Madrid playing open football.

And when he meets them in serious game, they will disgrace him again.

Simeone has been beating Barca constantly where it matters, something Pep can only dream of. We don't give a phuck if Pep finally managed to get something in an unimportant game, and keeps being disgraced in the main games - not when his mates are beating Barca playing their own style of footie.

The style of the football matters thats why every club wants Pep thats why every young coach wants to play like him

Style of football matters thats why DiMatteo who won the CL after Pep, beating Pep on the way is jobless after getting sacked by Aston Villa and many teams dont want to touch him yet Pep is desired by all. Thats why Roman was reluctant to give him a long contract even after he just won the holy grail

Thats why Mourinho is swearing affidavit to get a job.
Thats why half of Man Utd fans given the option would have preffered Pep to Jose, Thats why Roman was looking longinly at Pep and hoping he would bring his brand of football to Stamford bridge and enthrall him getting him real value for his money not the Tony Pulis style football

Beating Barca by bus parking is sweet, Beating Barca at their own game dominating them like a boss is a whole new level of sweet. Barca with MSN oo . and they get outshot and outbattled

Being world heavy weight champion with a lucky punch is sweet Like Hasheem Rahman (why few people remember him) owning and dominating opponents is a whole different feeling.

Go and watch the game and tell me how many teams have come out that way to play Barca and left without a bucket full of goals

Johann Cryuff, Rinus Michel and total football who most of us never saw in real life are being celebrated and people are still trying to follow their philosohy till now, I am sure there were some bus parking coaches in those days, Only that no one remembers them or think their football style is worthy of emulation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:16pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


I dey on the move now. We take it up on a different day. I will not allow anybody slander the reputation of my hero.
kikikikik... No wahala, but definetly not where Costa dy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:20pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


See yarns grin

Anyway see below...

But while the result will go down as another significant milestone in the club’s Champions League story, the manner of the victory – how Guardiola’s player beat Barcelona at their own game – is surely the most important factor from a result which leaves City well-placed to qualify from Group C. - The Independent

This was a win achieved with all the Guardiola hallmarks, in a blaze of attacking football, passing, movement and a willingness to take on the best without forsaking his principles. - BBC

Manchester City’s attack were truly outstanding in Tuesday’s comeback victory over Barcelona: a victory that few expected but was unquestionably the best European night in Sheikh Mansour’s reign. Scoring three times after having gone behind to the world’s greatest strikeforce is impressive enough, but shutting Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez and Neymar out while actively going in search of goals really is testament to how far Pep Guardiola’s side have already come - The Telegraph

If a movie opened to these kind of reviews, na Oscars straight!
just answer sincerely, would you rather Chelsea wait for 10 attempts before beating Barcelona with attacking football in a group stage or Chelsea beating them the way they did in 2012 to win the Champions League?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:24pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:
It's not that Pep beat Barca that is being discussed. It's how Pep beat Barca.
Rewind to first leg and how many dudes on here were claiming that Pep lost because he refused to bunker. Even you sef wey no watch match dey laugh me when I mentioned Pep's tactics.
Pep went toe to toe with Barca, and didn't just win, he annihilated them. I hope you watched the game. If not for some profligacy from Kun, Sterling, and KDB, the scores could have been very embarassing.

Pep beat Barca 3-1, and the result still flattered Barca. That's why Dayo is ranting. Guy, City played masterful football last night.

If the scoreline will be a true reflection of clear cut chances maybe the scoreline should have been like 9-3

This is Barcelona dominated with MSN. That goes to show you dont have to be cowardly when playing Barcelona. .

True I wanted Barcelona to win yesterday but City spoilt it for me they brushed Barca well and there will be few complaints from Nou Camp whether the scoreline was fair or not
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Nov 02, 2016
Greatihex:
just answer sincerely, would you rather Chelsea wait for 10 attempts before beating Barcelona with attacking football in a group stage or Chelsea beating them the way they did in 2012 to win the Champions League?

And How are you certain Chelsea will definitely lose vs Barca is they attacked Barcelona?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:35pm On Nov 02, 2016
Nihilist:


Forget that, Pep was obviously being very modest to his alma mater. Pep battered and bruised his compatriot so tey Enrique turn Wizkid.

When asked by Spanish media to describe what happened, Enrique was at a loss.

'I have not got an explanation,' he said. 'There is no explanation.'

tell us that pep's statement is false by backing it up with stats, because, the match i watched had stones constantly playing long balls from the back and cabellero pull out balls.

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