raumdeuter:


And How are you certain Chelsea will definitely lose vs Barca is they attacked Barcelona?

you don't answer a question with question. If you want to help answer the question, just do it.

Greatihex:
you don't answer a question with question. If you want to help answer the question, just do it.

Thats because the initial premise can be faulted. if I ask you "How do you cross the bridge in Kinshasha Congo?" I am already assuming you have been to Congo. So would it be wrong to ask me back that "Why ask me when I have never been to Congo before?"

raumdeuter:


How did a freekick scored by debruyne become an individual error. Only the first goal was a forced error and was because City were pressing them high

If City wasnt pressing them high no way that goal will come.

Barcelona has 16 shots vs Arsenal at EMirates, Are you saying all those 16 shots came in the the second half?. Arsenal threatened more yet created less shots at home vs Barca

Is this not this same match report from UEFA

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2016/matches/round=2000635/match=2015766/postmatch/statistics/index.html

oh, is it that Barcelona players no longer know how to pass the ball when under pressure?

Ter stegen was at fault for that goal. Why was he about diving to his right when the ball was actually coming to his left.

Barcelona had no shot on target in the first half.

Greatihex:
just answer sincerely, would you rather Chelsea wait for 10 attempts before beating Barcelona with attacking football in a group stage or Chelsea beating them the way they did in 2012 to win the Champions League?

That's thr difference mass-production and artisan craftsmanship

One approach is focused on producing workable products as quickly and cheaply as possible, whilst the other is focused on producing a product to the highest possible standards of performance and technique as possible

If you understand the SDLC, then you know why most random software are produced in Agile environments, whilst software for precision tasks in Aerospace, Medical or Engineering industries are done using waterfall approach

Timberland and Rick Owens boot both protect your feet...yet one cost hundreds of pounds and the other cost thousands.

Given the choice of winning or losing, I will chose to win. Given the choice of how to win though.....

Greatihex:
oh, is it that Barcelona players no longer know how to pass the ball when under pressure?

Ter stegen was at fault for that goal. Why was he about diving to his right when the ball was actually coming to his left.

Barcelona had no shot on target in the first half.

No matter how good you know how to pass under presure if you are well pressurized like City did yesterday you will pass wrongly and get intercepted that was what happened. If you park the bus instead and dont bother to press them, then you cant profit even when they dont pass it properly

Ter Stegen dived wrongly? is it possible that Debruyne put a spin on the ball that made it swerve and deceive ter stergen?

raumdeuter:


The style of the football matters thats why every club wants Pep thats why every young coach wants to play like him

Style of football matters thats why DiMatteo who won the CL after Pep, beating Pep on the way is jobless after getting sacked by Aston Villa and many teams dont want to touch him yet Pep is desired by all. Thats why Roman was reluctant to give him a long contract even after he just won the holy grail

Thats why Mourinho is swearing affidavit to get a job.
Thats why half of Man Utd fans given the option would have preffered Pep to Jose,{b} Thats why Roman was looking longinly at Pep and hoping he would bring his brand of football to Stamford bridge and enthrall him getting him real value for his money not the Tony Pulis style football {/b}

Beating Barca by bus parking is sweet, Beating Barca at their own game dominating them like a boss is a whole new level of sweet. Barca with MSN oo . and they get outshot and outbattled

Being world heavy weight champion with a lucky punch is sweet Like Hasheem Rahman (why few people remember him) owning and dominating opponents is a whole different feeling.

Go and watch the game and tell me how many teams have come out that way to play Barca and left without a bucket full of goals

Johann Cryuff, Rinus Michel and total football who most of us never saw in real life are being celebrated and people are still trying to follow their philosohy till now, I am sure there were some bus parking coaches in those days, Only that no one remembers them or think their football style is worthy of emulation

stop using that line. No matter how sweet your brand of football may be, if you don't bring the immediate success, Roman will give you the boot.

lalaboi:
Pep Said this though

"We competed with Barcelona, but for now we did it in a different way. We played more long balls because we are still not ready to keep the ball and play like they do."

Source: BBC


I'll let the arguing parties make use of whatever they make from it.

So?? There's virtually no team that doesn't play long ball, Özil's goal was a result of long from Elneny.
It's another thing to be playing aimless long balls upandan from beginning to end "hoping" ur team mate gets on the end of it.
By the way he said he played more of long ball this time and not they were playing only long balls.

Greatihex:
tell us that pep's statement is false by backing it up with stats, because, the match i watched had stones constantly playing long balls from the back and cabellero pull out balls.

Barca only needed a point from that game to go through, City had to win to keep their hopes alive.

Barca scored and were passing through ball aimlessly in their half

Did you expect City to adopt the same pattern?

City were very direct, but they weren't playing hoof ball. They had an association of midgets up front anyway so they can't play Pulis ball.

What you witnessed was a supremely purposeful attack. No frills, just thrills that sent Enrique to Ojuelegba with no night bus, and left Messi standing outside the City lockerroom trying to pick a fight with a voice behind the door.

Greatihex:
oh, is it that Barcelona players no longer know how to pass the ball when under pressure?

Ter stegen was at fault for that goal. Why was he about diving to his right when the ball was actually coming to his left.

Barcelona had no shot on target in the first half.

Dont blame him. Raumdeuter never played football in a field measuring more than 50m. You are on point, Stegen's wrong step killed him for that goal. It was a goal he could have stopped. Not that the ball even went to the top corner.

Greatihex:
stop using that line. No matter how sweet your brand of football may be, if you don't bring the immediate success, Roman will give you the boot.

Mourinhos style gave Roman immediate result yet he still fired him. If with the result Mourinho was getting he was playing attacking football, he will not be fired

Winning is number 1, What trumps winning is "Winning playing attractive football"

Nihilist:


So once if he fails in knockout, wetin be the endpoint?

We go laugh Dayo na

Nihilist:


That's thr difference mass-production and artisan craftsmanship

One approach is focused on producing workable products as quickly and cheaply as possible, whilst the other is focused on producing a product to the highest possible standards of performance and technique as possible

If you understand the SDLC, then you know why most random software are produced in Agile environments, whilst software for precision tasks in Aerospace, Medical or Engineering industries are done using waterfall approach

Timberland and Rick Owens boot both protect your feet...yet one cost hundreds of pounds and the other cost thousands.

Given the choice of winning or losing, I will chose to win. Given the choice of how to win though.....

Baba enter Software Engineering from football. Eleyi ti koja be careful oh

Greatihex:
they were leading courtesy of two individual errors from Barcelona players (the same thing you used as defence for pep last time.

Was it not at Emirates that Barcelona barely had a shot for 45 minutes, with arsenal creating more chances and threatening more.

I reiterate, some credit should be given to pep though, it doesn't take away the fact that he is not tactically sound as mou.

Woow....to be tactically sound like Mou means to park the bus against Citeh, Liverpool, Shekpe, (Ass.nal in 2wks time), with Shekpe against Atletico Madrid & PSG 2 seasons ago, etc
If parking the bus after having spent Abrahamovic's billion pounds is not a waste, then Abrahamovic wouldn't have sacked him....no wonder Real Madrid didn't waste time in kicking the boy out of their base.
It is undastandable when Pulis, Allardyce, etc does that cos they don't have the financial muscle Pep, Jose, etc has but for Jose, even UTD fans are now shouting cos that is not our pattern~~~we ain't Shekpe that started playing 12-13yrs ago since u guys never had a pattern/style of play to begin with.

Greatihex:
tell us that pep's statement is false by backing it up with stats, because, the match i watched had stones constantly playing long balls from the back and cabellero pull out balls.

Pep layed emphasis on the fact that his players are not yet comfortable with his style and seeing how his players bleeped up some of their passes from the back which led to Barca's triumph in the 1st leg, he probably told them to clear any ball near their defensive line.. What they couldn't do at the back I.e, build-up play from the back, they made up for it in the midfield and attack. Even Fernandinho had a poor pass % in the DM role because he couldn't afford to make any stupid mistake like they did in the 1st leg. That's why it still baffles me as to how Stone can be regarded as a ball playing defender when he couldn't even display that in a high pressure match. Not forgetting that he almost cost them with his stupid pass once again in the game. Lol!

I won't even say Pep's team played long ball in its entirety.. They dominated Barca's midfield and their attack line were fluid as well.

Anyway, there's no doubt that Pep is quite good and bring out the best in his players but it still all depends on having the right quality in the team.

Nihilist:


Forget that, Pep was obviously being very modest to his alma mater. Pep battered and bruised his compatriot so tey Enrique turn Wizkid.

When asked by Spanish media to describe what happened, Enrique was at a loss.

'I have not got an explanation,' he said. 'There is no explanation.'

I do believe this is all hype from British media. Barca on their day and at their best, with their best lineup cannot be beaten by that city team and its something you know. Just because you don gaffe about pep tactics back then, you one use this one cover face.

There's no difference with the way Southampton played City a few weeks back vs how City played barca yesterday.

There is also a massive difference between What Chelsea did on that faithful night in 2005, location stamford bridge, knockout round 2nd leg. Who was the coach? you sure know. They even did with more possession back then. 42% .

This is not new, lets not get ahead of ourselves here and start pissing pants because a coach beat his former team.

raumdeuter:


Thats because the initial premise can be faulted. if I ask you "How do you cross the bridge in Kinshasha Congo?" I am already assuming you have been to Congo. So would it be wrong to ask me back that "Why ask me when I have never been to Congo before?"

you don start to rigmarole. I don't have time for that.

That question had two options to choose from.

airmark:


Dont blame him. Raumdeuter never played football in a field measuring more than 50m. You are on point, Stegen's wrong step killed him for that goal. It was a goal he could have stopped. Not that the ball even went to the top corner.

yes, it was clear for everyone watching the game to see.

raumdeuter:


Mourinhos style gave Roman immediate result yet he still fired him. If with the result Mourinho was getting he was playing attacking football, he will not be fired

Winning is number 1, What trumps winning is "Winning playing attractive football"

By result, do you mean being one point above the relegation zone?
Besides, was ancelotti playing what type of football.

Will I be wrong to say Ancelotti won with 'attractive football' but still got sacked?

Diademk07:


Pep layed emphasis on the fact that his players are not yet comfortable with his style and seeing how his players bleeped up some of their passes from the back which led to Barca's triumph in the 1st leg, he probably told them to clear any ball near their defensive line.. What they couldn't do at the back I.e, build-up play from the back, they made up for it in the midfield and attack. Even Fernandinho had a poor pass % in the DM role because he couldn't afford to make any stupid mistake like they did in the 1st leg. That's why it still baffles me as to how Stone can be regarded as a ball playing defender when he couldn't even display that in a high pressure match. Not forgetting that he almost cost them with his stupid pass once again in the game. Lol!

I won't even say Pep's team played long ball in its entirety.. They dominated Barca's midfield and their attack line were fluid as well.

Anyway, there's no doubt that Pep is quite good and bring out the best in his players but it still all depends on having the right quality in the team.

Case in point Bayern Munich?

nitlad:



Case in point Bayern Munich?

I laid emphasis on the quality of the players in the said team..

That Bayern team was getting old and injury prone. It's not Pep's fault that Robben, Ribery, Bastian were becoming injury prone and ageing..

Oh common forget this guys we have our own problem to worry about. Case in point: Betrand Traore.
He seems to be in a horrible form with his coach and club legends critcising him.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/11/3/13505716/bertrand-traore-ajax-amsterdam-chelsea-loan-progress-report-success

pamcode:
Oh common forget this guys we have our own problem to worry about. Case in point: Betrand Traore.
He seems to be in a horrible form with his coach and club legends critcising him.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/11/3/13505716/bertrand-traore-ajax-amsterdam-chelsea-loan-progress-report-success

Wow! This is certainly something to be concerned about. How many goals has he scored since he moved there?

A case of two heads are better than one.

Dang!
Graeme le saux is blooming intelligent.
I'm watching the #Thepledge on skynews and dude is dropping science. The other day he explained how organisations use computer algorithms to pick candidates for jobs/positions.

I'm looking at dude in a different light now.

Its Everton next....3 points.


By the way Ajax vs Celta Vigo - MOTM? Traore.

donjazet:

Wow! This is certainly something to be concerned about. How many goals has he scored since he moved there?

3 goals and a assist.

Mourinho should have gone on a Sabbatical after his second spell

These days he is just doing rubbish and nonsense....That Feneyoord game was the most annoying

bigkesh:
Mourinho should have gone on a Sabbatical after his second spell

These days he is just doing rubbish and nonsense....That Feneyoord game was the most annoying

Agreed, maybe he just had the urge to prove he still got it in him and the lure of the competition and the new managers was just too overwhelming for him to look away but as each day passes, that seems to have been a very bad decision.
You look at mourinho now and you see a very moody man!, someone very unhappy and sullen, this is very different from the man who turned heads when he first came to these shores, the arrogant, confident, boisterous man. His looks alone exuded confidence and belief to his team and fans but now, he simply looks soulless and lifeless, that spark isn't just there anymore. But as a Chelsea fan, I can only be glad we got the best out of him and since he has is now a rival, LONG MAY THEIR WOES CONTINUE!

Hahaha....I just saw this on twitter.

This is Paul Scholes Fenerbahce vs Man Utd team sheet....notice what he did to Mourinho's name below. Now look at the top right...can you decode what he scribbled there?

timbros:
Hahaha....I just saw this on twitter.

This is Paul Scholes Fenerbahce vs Man Utd team sheet....notice what he did to Mourinho's name below. Now look at the top right...can you decode what he scribbled there?

I can only see "big worry". correct

bigkesh:
Mourinho should have gone on a Sabbatical after his second spell

These days he is just doing rubbish and nonsense....That Feneyoord game was the most annoying

He mocked Guardiola for going on a sabbatical and he didnt want to do the same thing he mocked someone earlier for

As a Mourinho hater I am enjoying this, As a long time Man utd hater makes it even better, its double fun for the price of one