Mickael2:


you have to change with the climate bro. How many teams in planet Earth still play this style of DMF that you just mentioned? All you just explained are the defensive duties of a DMF not the entire duties of a DMF. A DMF is the passing outlet from the back, it is impossible for Chelsea to build an attack right now without either Matic or Kante touching the ball, same thing happens at Barca with Busquets and so on, so if your DMF cannot pass the ball well what do you do? You start going through your fullbacks and any good opposing coach will immediately counter that because the spaces there are limited. You are talking about the DMFs of the 80s not even the early 2000s, these days a DMF has to have a better passing range and percentage than even a CMF talkless of an AMF, so passing is vital for a DMF now, that's why Onazi is playing for a team fighting against relegation in Turkey and Ndidi is playing in a team who have almost already qualified for the second round of the Europa league.

And thank goodness you aren't a coach, they will sack you after your first training section

Icon4s:
Musa Mohammed played against Montenegro and Mali in friendlies. He was impressive.

Musa Mohammed played all 90mins against Tanzania and Rohr himself took time out to shower him encomiums.

It got to the game against Zambia and what we heard " WE NEED THE BIG EXPERIENCE PLAYERS FOR THE BIG GAME".

Do you think Alampasu, with zero cap, stands a chance to be the goal keeper in this "Big game" under this same coach that could not trust a faultless Mohammed for a RB position?

cc: TeamAlampasu: safarigirl, TheSuperNerd, TheGoodJoe, Bascovanveli.

Jefersoun:
Have there been a time a keeper debut for his national team in an important and highly rated match? Am not sure there is any, even if there is, you can easily count it. What was the result? Alampasu needs that synergy between him and the divenders which Akpeyi has a little of. The confidence of a keeper plays great role in the whole team. If the keeper isn't that confident, the team may be a bit conservative going forward, thereby affecting flow of play and so many more i can't start explaining. But if you don't see things from my own point of view, is fine by me. This stuff is getting too lengthy, let's let it slide and hope for an injury free squad. But still i get your valid point. Peace

OdenigboAroli:


Last sentence cracked e up.
But seriously,do people till play that Olofinjana kind of defensive MD?

TheSuperNerd:
**Takes off shoes to take off**

"The Arch-Apostle of "Experience" JUST LANDED!!!! The Guardian of the halls of Experience himself... Chaiiiii.... Oga Experience!!! Everybody scram!!!!

**zooms outta thread**

Icon4s:
Musa Mohammed played against Montenegro and Mali in friendlies. He was impressive.

Musa Mohammed played all 90mins against Tanzania and Rohr himself took time out to shower him encomiums.

It got to the game against Zambia and what we heard " WE NEED THE BIG EXPERIENCE PLAYERS FOR THE BIG GAME".

Do you think Alampasu, with zero cap, stands a chance to be the goal keeper in this "Big game" under this same coach that could not trust a faultless Mohammed for a RB position?

cc: TeamAlampasu: safarigirl, TheSuperNerd, TheGoodJoe, Bascovanveli.

Icon4s:
Musa Mohammed played against Montenegro and Mali in friendlies. He was impressive.

Musa Mohammed played all 90mins against Tanzania and Rohr himself took time out to shower him encomiums.

It got to the game against Zambia and what we heard " WE NEED THE BIG EXPERIENCE PLAYERS FOR THE BIG GAME".

Do you think Alampasu, with zero cap, stands a chance to be the goal keeper in this "Big game" under this same coach that could not trust a faultless Mohammed for a RB position?

cc: TeamAlampasu: safarigirl, TheSuperNerd, TheGoodJoe, Bascovanveli.

tbaba1234:


Speaking of Olofinjana, He is now the coach of wolverhampton wolves under 23.

TheSuperNerd:
**looks from a distance and sights the question properly**

Haba! I have answered your question already naa... Since sef... I said, "Rohr, we know you WON'T PLAY alampasu...."

Abi u no see am in previous pages?

tbaba1234:


Speaking of Olofinjana, He is now the coach of wolverhampton wolves under 23.

TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with Rohr with his big game players argument and it almost cost us. I doubt Ndidi would make that right-back role. He made it because of he is a "Big Game Player". That is why I want those kind of points kicked out.

It makes weak options. We need the best in every role. Among all selected, screen them thoroughly with tough drills and selected the best that suits the team's philosophy.

I have no doubt Musa Mohammed would have done better than Ndidi in that role.

Same goes with Alampasu (if he excels over the others in camp.)

Icon4s:
Rohr saying no automatic shirt for any player is normal. That is what coaches usually say bt deep down within them they know players hu are likely to start.

From my little knowledge of coaching,
Let me jst give some insight on how most coaches make selections for games like this.

1. The technical crew goes through tapes of their opponents. Among other things they spot both their strength and weakness.

2. The coaches look into their squad to identify a player or players that can really exploit those weaknesses of the opponent. At that point the coach pencils down that player or small unit of 2-3 players. Baring any injuriries those players have made the match day squad expecially if their abilities are never in doubt irrespective of what happens in training. Eg: V. Moses, Iheanacho and Iwobi are likely starters.It means d coach must know the individual abilities in his players. They also setup mini-formations to foil their major threats.

3. COACHES DONT WAIT TILL CAMPING BEFORE THEY KNOW THEIR STARTING 11. Camping may jst b an opportunity for 1 or 2 players to break into the starting 11 due to various reason. The coaches may also use camping to test various formations. This point is a major reasons why u hear that certain players were shinning in camp but still didn't make the match day squad. TheGoodJoe , take note of this this point. I know u will definitelt counter it but that is pure fact!

4. At the commencement of camping any coach that does not have atleast 9 players that he has programmed to start is destined for a doom.

TheSuperNerd:
And they have gone six games unbeaten in their last outings...

TheSuperNerd:
Sir GoodJoe.... Make we just leave matter for matthias.

We know what we are saying.... All we seek is balanced view and open-mindedness NOT CLOSED VIEW DUE TO "BIG-GAME EXPERIENCE" ALONE.....

As for Uyo's battle, it's up to Rohr but I smell "Akpeyi" all the way.

Proudly #TeamAlampasu

Meanwhile.....

Call up Kenny Otigba for March 2017 international break!!!!

#OtigbaCampaign

TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with Rohr with his big game players argument and it almost cost us. I doubt Ndidi would make that right-back role. He made it because of he is a "Big Game Player". That is why I want those kind of points kicked out.

It makes weak options. We need the best in every role. Among all selected, screen them thoroughly with tough drills and selected the best that suits the team's philosophy.

I have no doubt Musa Mohammed would have done better than Ndidi in that role.

Same goes with Alampasu (if he excels over the others in camp.)

TheGoodJoe:


I already told you before. You do not know Rohr's choice. I hope he runs a fair screening camp and select the best in each role.

Mickael2:


Ndidi has more experience than Onazi, do you think that is easy to play in the Europa league, remove experience there. meanwhile go and check what I told, Onazi's average rating is 6.3 while that if Ndidi is 7.5,how can you even start comparing that at all??! not to mention that Onazi has scored only two goals all season long while Ndidi has scored that amount in the Europa league alone, go figure

Icon4s:


"Screen them thoroughly with tough drills"?

What do you think camping grounds are?

You think the way players are selected for Super Eagles is like the way players are screened for the Golden Eaglets.

TheSuperNerd:
It's true I don't but come on Sir GoodJoe, we are analysts. We have foresight and can predict some things....

If Rohr thought Ezenwa or Alampasu would be okay in goal, he wouldn't have called up Akpeyi.... That's a fact.

He could have just left it to Ezenwa and Alampasu to battle it out for the right to man that goal in Uyo but what did he do?? He calls up Akpeyi.... **smelling something now?**

We know Rohr's choice already... Our debate is just to establish the fact that even if It was down to Alampasu to man the goal, THEN THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IN THAT... HE'S A PRECOCIOUS TALENT WHO CAN TRUMP EXPERIENCE JUST LIKE NACHO DID.

TheGoodJoe:


This is something I noticed a long time. I watched lots of analyst and pundits. This is where many, including top coaches miss it.

When once you have favorites, bias creeps in and poor judgments take place. Let the current form be the judge.

TheGoodJoe:


Yes. What do you think coaching is about? Just like City, you keep drilling to make sure the regulars are in perfect shape to maintain the team's form.

Go and get training clips of different teams. They keep performing drills. You screen to know the best in every role and keep the best on their toes with players who will challenge them for their positions.

Even the scrimmage games are in some way drills on how the players will adapt to the team's planned formation.

TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with Rohr with his big game players argument and it almost cost us. I doubt Ndidi would make that right-back role. He made it because of he is a "Big Game Player". That is why I want those kind of points kicked out.

It makes weak options. We need the best in every role. Among all selected, screen them thoroughly with tough drills and select the best that suits the team's philosophy.

I have no doubt Musa Mohammed would have done better than Ndidi in that role.

Same goes with Alampasu (if he excels over the others in camp.)

TheGoodJoe:


This is something I noticed a long time. I watched lots of analyst and pundits. This is where many, including top coaches miss it.

When once you have favorites, bias creeps in and poor judgments take place. Let the current form be the judge.

Icon4s:


You and this ur city.Coaching at club level is different from coaching at the national team level.

National team Coaches usually pencil down players for the games even before the camping commences. They merely have 4-5 days not a whole season to train.

Its usually more of light joggings, kick-abouts , minifriendlies and plotting of tactics.

The drills are usually light to avoid injuries.
This a major reason y coaches prefer players hu are active in their clubs. They spend more time practising tactics than those "drills" u have always been mentioning.

TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with Rohr with his big game players argument and it almost cost us. I doubt Ndidi would make that right-back role. He made it because of he is a "Big Game Player". That is why I want those kind of points kicked out.

It makes weak options. We need the best in every role. Among all selected, screen them thoroughly with tough drills and select the best that suits the team's philosophy.

I have no doubt Musa Mohammed would have done better than Ndidi in that role.

Same goes with Alampasu (if he excels over the others in camp.)

Icon4s:


No insults meant but i feel maybe u need to take up some coaching courses.

But till then....

TheGoodJoe:


Even National team players injure during training. Watch goalkeeper trainings, it is all drills. Forward line training, shooting drills, some with artificial walls.

Team work training, you see different positional set ups, with one or two balls moving. You do not just light jog. The jogging and workouts is for fitness.

Whether club or National team training, drills make a big part of it. I watched lots of Westerhof's training sessions.

tbaba1234:


Rohr mentioned that Musa did not measure up in camp. He could not take a risk when he feels a player is not measuring up. Hence, the decision to try out Ndidi.

Icon4s:


I am a product of the Westerhof's coaching school.

Go for coaching courses then lets discuss this thing as coaches.

forgiveness:


Oga, e bi like say you just prefer Ndidi to Onazi and that explains all what you just yan nau.

Are you serious! Ndidi is more experience than Onazi?

When it comes to all round Football Onazi na still be d baba.

Do you know the position Onazi played in Lazio youth team?

TheGoodJoe:


Why try out? Drill and know who is better. During the scrimmage games, Musa Mohammed was a regular. All of a sudden for the game, Ndidi was the option. Who does that? That was wrong. Rohr should have played Ndidi on the right in the scrimmage games so he will know if he could cope.

We do not need those kind of errors. Test and play the best.