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Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 5:23pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
It is my personal belief that there are mainly two sides to everything. And each sides exist ( I mean you can't say they don't exist, even the word 'empty' shows 'emptiness' exist in relation to 'full' ). I'm talking about common opposites, absolute polar opposites to everything about life. Some we know and we believe in them. Some we don't know but that doesn't mean they don't exist, they just simply mean we don't know. Examples are: Day - Night Light - Darkness Good - Bad Strong - Weak Left - Right Solid - Liquid Best - Worst Right - Wrong Logical - Unrealistic Natural - Artificial Permanent - Temporal Tangible - Abstract Wise - Foolish Visible - Unseeable Earthly- Celestial Physical - Spiritual Holy - Evil Body - Spirit All the above are opposites we believe exist. But why is it that some of us don't believe in the last one, that spirits exist. Isn't that enough proof? Why should we believe in the existence of all forms of opposites but rule the last one out? 2 Likes |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 5:42pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
bennyann: Just like there's the natural and supernatural... 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by Slikbae: 6:31pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Everything that has an original has a counterfeit. If God doesn't exist, where do evil people get powers from? 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 6:36pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin: Exactly! Thanks. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 6:40pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Slikbae: I believe that also, that everything that has an original has a counterfeit. That's a good one. I'm curious to know answers to your question from those who don't believe spirits exist. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by ValentineMary(m): 10:21pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Mtchewww. Ask urself honestly if u made sense OP. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 6:43am On Nov 06, 2016 |
Physical - Spiritual Visible - Unseeable Flesh - Spirit |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 6:46am On Nov 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Yes, that's it. That's always the height of it. You can't do without talking about 'sense'. Even those wiser than you know the topic makes sense. All they have to do is share with us reasons they don't believe in the spiritual, when they believe in the physical. Which you fail to do also. AND let me ask you, since you value 'sense' so much, what then happens to you when all your senses are gone. Or you also feel that doesn't make sense It's amazing how words and their opposites doesn't make sense to you anymore 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 7:54am On Nov 06, 2016 |
They do not believe the last one because it wasn't mentioned in any science class or science textbook therefore its reality is debatable. What is worse is that they refuse to admit thousands of occurrences which science (wisdom of the world) has failed to explain such as someone coming back to life after being certified dead, the use of many cutlasses or matchetes to pierce the mouth and body without blood dripping from the wound - Asians are very good at this as I first saw it on Point is science may be a broad subject but its scope is very narrow and by virtue of what it is it is helplessly handicapped in relation to the events of the paranormal and the supernatural. Even more pathetic are the ignorant folks that, as the Crusaders of Science, will ask me proof of this like I am some errand boy to serve their lazy minds with proof of what is littered all over the internet. Last thought. To atheists and free thinkers - if science cannot explain the reality of many concepts not within its scope of operation, why would you deny their reality? 2 Likes |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 7:55am On Nov 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: And what sense have you made to prove to the OP that she doesn't make sense? Author of sense, I'm waiting to see you make sense. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by TomHagen: 8:06am On Nov 06, 2016 |
bennyann:Why is spiritual the opposite of physical as opposed to mental? |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 8:36am On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: The mental is a mechanism of the physical attributes and it does not possess all the characteristics of the physical while the spiritual possesses all the characteristics of the physical including the mental. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by TomHagen: 9:18am On Nov 06, 2016 |
skeendyke:So consciousness is physical? |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by ValentineMary(m): 11:21am On Nov 06, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin:I have no time to waste here. Any smart person would know that this post does not make sense. I would not even waste time trying to counter anything. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 12:20pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: You digress. An attribute of the physical does not translate to a physical property. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 12:20pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Well done. Smart person. I wonder what you were even doing on that thread. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 12:20pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
skeendyke: You're funny due to the bolded. What is worse is that they refuse to admit thousands of occurrences which science (wisdom of the world) has failed to explain such as someone coming back to life after being certified dead, the use of many cutlasses or matchetes to pierce the mouth and body without blood dripping from the wound - Asians are very good at this as I first saw it on The above is very insightful of you. Thanks I join you to ask the question below : To atheists and free thinkers - if science cannot explain the reality of many concepts not within its scope of operation, why would you deny their reality? |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by orunto27: 12:21pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Body : Shadow. Human : Spirit. Death : Life. Dead : Exist. 2 Likes |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 12:43pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: I agree with skeendyke. Though I understand your question because many use mental as the opposite of physical. Physical - has to do with something tangible, visible, sensible, real to the human eyes and mind. Mental - it relates to the mind, that is any intellectual process or activity. In other words, it has to do with logic. Let's take your thoughts as example. You can't say your thoughts are physical because they're not visible, tangible but they're real to you because you believe in your thoughts though I can't see them and you also believe in mine. Our thoughts are real to us because we all believe we have thoughts, we're living evidences of that because we (our body) act out what we think or we don't but we know our thoughts are alive in our heads. You can say mental is a sub of Spiritual. But I go more with spiritual as the opposite of physical because we can't see spiritual things, but more importantly or better still more distinctly, we all can't tell if it's real and we all can't prove it at the same time unlike mental. In other words, spiritual doesn't go with logics as do mental. It doesn't make sense to us because we all don't see it to be real as 'mental' Now you see why spiritual should be more of an opposite to physical. 2 Likes |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 12:47pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
orunto27: That's it! I bet you understand them than I do |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by TomHagen: 1:17pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
skeendyke:Is consciousness an ''attribute of the physical''? |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by TomHagen: 1:25pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
bennyann:I am sure you know that some people consider this enough reason to aver that there is no such thing as the spiritual. How does one use something that cannot be ''non-existent'' as the opposite of something else. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 1:43pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: From the beginning I said all this duality about life exists. Those we don't know simply means we don't know, it doesn't mean they don't exist. So, let's look at the spiritual from this perspective : The fact that something or some person isn't visible to you or the human eyes, the fact that something isn't tangible to you, isn't sensible to you, the fact that your mind cannot comprehend such things, you can't manipulate them, does that mean those things don't exist simply because of your limitations? |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 1:45pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: Don't you think it will be myopic to rule out things because they're not physical (non-existent)? I asked because, if you're an ardent follower of science, you'd know that over the years, so many discoveries have been made about things that, some decades or centuries ago people thought are non-existent. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by TomHagen: 2:11pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin:It is also ''hypermetropic'' to use such things like spiritual as the opposite of anything. Science will never discover the spiritual. It's outside its purview. If science can discover anything, then it's not spiritual as science always employs physical instruments. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 2:19pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
bennyann: I bet you this - they will never admit the reality of anything that hasn't the stamp of approval of Science even if they see it unfolding before their very eyes. If Science has no explanation for it then it must be some superstition or the mind playing tricks on the observer. According to them, it is not real or feasible if Science has no logical explanation for it. Talk about myopic view of reality. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 2:22pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
bennyann: Lovely. Cannot add anything to it or take from it. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 2:30pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
skeendyke: You seem to know them better. Isn't it wonderful how you know what they know but still allow yourself to go beyond the physical limit, the limit of the flesh? I admire people like you who do not let their flesh set boundaries for them. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 2:30pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: By physical, what do you mean - Man, trees, matter in general? Be specific. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by bennyann: 2:32pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
skeendyke: Thank you so much. I'll gladly welcome your inputs anytime. |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by skeendyke: 2:37pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Bennyann, thanks for the comments. The truth is I am as weak as any man in this corrupt flesh but I learn from my falls and am confident in the fact that Jesus holds my hands and leads me along therefore whatever I am today, the credit goes to Him only. 1 Like |
Re: Come And Let's Reason Together. by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 2:40pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
TomHagen: My point is, dismissing anything that science doesn't have an explanation to, is myopic. Science doesn't have an answer yet to so many things. Science can't even cure so many diseases; well, I have experienced God heal HIV, Cancer, and ever sickle cell anemia, and these healings are verifiable medically, because their medical history, reports and test are there. 1 Like |
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