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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Henrydone: 5:34am On Nov 07, 2016 |
Abuja suburb
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by smoriacy: 8:07am On Nov 07, 2016 |
Kenyanstar: kenyas GDP IS 70BN$ SECONDLY SWITZERLAND HAS A GDP OF 245bn$ and China has 11trn$ but you cant compare their lives 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 8:33am On Nov 07, 2016 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 8:38am On Nov 07, 2016 |
Well this is not news, I experience the exact same thing with my work. Also it doesn't prove the fact that we have Naija based manufacturers in the thousands. Their products are patronized by Nigerians but despised to a certain degree by govt officials mainly due to corruption. Bifwoli: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 8:39am On Nov 07, 2016 |
Ok ok I get your point. I don't want to keep this thread alive so I'll just rest my case here. PS: I still believe Nigeria has much stronger indigenous institutions than Kenya. smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:44pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Expressing displeasure in Nyeri is a serious crime. The innocent youth was only holding a placard written ‘Jubilee under attack’, this is what he got... Kenya Human Rights commission mko wapi? Bifwoli:
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:45pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
He married the Eritrean right after he divorced the Kikuyu. Do your research! smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:48pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Are the Mau Maus not a Kikuyu tribal rebel group who fought the British over land ownership and eventually independence? Explains why Kikuyus walk around feeling entitled to the whole of Kenya. And who is deceiving you saying "British Empire Kenyan war of independence is said to be the Bloodiest of all " ?? smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:49pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
yeah we ind of already know this...so what exactly are you on about? smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:50pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:55pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Mehn nobody cares which wars your people have been in. Get off the forum if e dey pain you. When was the last time there was a coup in Naija though?? How do you think Moi was able to rule for 24 years, because your armed forces are largely split into 2 major groups, the Kalenjin and the Kikuyu most of whose interest aligned perfectly with his. Mind you, Kenya did not become a multi party state until the Kikuyus rebelled against Kalenjin-Nandi military hegemony over the country's politics. Nigeria has had a lot of coups because well, we are not cowards, some dickward cannot come from no where and decide to rule past his tenure, things like that don't fly in this side of the world. Also consider that Naija is a lot more diverse than Kenya will ever be. so move on! smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:58pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
again leaving out the Nigeria listed below Kenya, nice. Learn about the Royal West African Squadron. Hausa soldiers whom the Brits used to end the slave trade. They evolved into the Royal West African Frontier Forced who participated quite actively in both World Wars, waay much more than East Africans did! smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 2:01pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
gaddamn it. So what Nigeria does not have places that look like this? Are you even reading your own crap? smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 2:05pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
First of all, Nigeria has refineries, the legal ones have been poorly maintained over the years while the working ones are illegal since the fuel importers are a cartel of ill meaning Nigerians who do not care about the populace. Hopefully all that makes sense to you. British Airways decided to set their west african base in Ghana ----because Nigeria is not an imperialist tool where an empire can just dump a military base in and commit its atrocities in them. How many Rwanda Genocide perps hide in Kenya? In short how many Darfur genocide perps hide in Kenya? The Somali warlards, where do they spend their genocide money? Kenya. Do you know why? because your govt are just as evil as African govts are, not that Naija's govt is better but you get my point. smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 2:09pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
#sigh kinda already know this...so.... smoriacy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Alright guys, this argument has gone on waay too long so I have a confession. Quick background, I did school in Nairobi, I went to St. Christopher's in Ngong Rd then to USIU. Over the years, I have always thought Kenya is a more comfortable place to live in for one reason; stable electricity. So my final take is this; Forget the stats about imports or exports o GDPs or Slums, Ports, Projects, etc If you have ever lived in both countries (for an appreciable number of years, which I have), this conclusion should not shock you. Kenya has stable electricity, Nigeria doesn't and its killing our way of life, our economy even our politics. Otherwise, I sincerely believe Nigeria has a much more stronger institutions than Kenya, its just what it is. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:04pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
naijalander: Can you just for the sake of it tell us which of this "institutions" you mean are for the sake of other Nairaland users. We will really appreciate the information. 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Henrydone: 6:26pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
smoriacy:Use ur head man the luxembourg lives better than the US americans, but u can't compare those two countries in terms of any terminologies. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 9:24pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
naijalander:Do you have a close kenyan friend? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:49pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
naijalander:Last I checked, neither of the world wars was ever fought in West Africa. The first World War was fought in East Africa mainly because unlike West Africa .East Africa was home to tens of thousands of settlers both German and British who in turn mobilized the natives on both sides of the border . Tanzania and parts of South West Kenya are littered with unexploded bombs from this era to date. If the Royal West African Frontier Force saw so much action, why is it that this force never fought for independence anywhere?? Kenyan troops fought in Burma and in India and saw Britain whooped by Japan . These troops formed the core of the Mau Mau rebellion which paved the way for Kenyan independence. So No. I doubt if the Royal West African Frontier Force saw more action than the East Africans. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:09am On Nov 08, 2016 |
naijalander:Nigeria is more diverse than Kenya how? Nigeria may have over 200 ethnic groups but you all belong to two main groups .The Afro Asiatics in the north and the Savannah and Forest tribes who one cannot differentiate from each other. Kenya is home to 4 distinct African groups. Bantus , Cushites, Nilotes and NiloHamites. Kenya is home to White Africans(Britons who gave up British citizenship for Kenyan citizenship), A large Italian population at the coast as well as many Germans. Kenya is home to a large Arab population whose oldest coastal settlements date to 325 B.C older than even African settlement. Intermarriage between Arabs and Africans gave birth to the Swahili community. And of course we have Kenyan Asians .Who are truly Kenyan. The current Indian Central Bank Governor is a third generation Kenyan Asian. He got so many abuses from Indians for being a 'Swahili speaking foreigner imported from East Africa' and the Indian parliament questioned the appointment of a 'foreigner' at the Central Bank.Because Kenyan Asians have no castes, many have intermarried across ethnic lines and speak Swahili and many (like the ones in Kisumu) speak the local luo language. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 7:48am On Nov 08, 2016 |
You know they can't differentiate from each other exactly how? Do you live amongst them? GERALD710: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 7:49am On Nov 08, 2016 |
You are not making any sense? GERALD710: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:58am On Nov 08, 2016 |
naijalander:How am I not making any sense?? Troops that fought for the British (as well as the French, in the case of Algeria) who went back home created an insurgency that paved way for independence.That applies to Algeria,Zimbabwe and Kenya of which the latter also had Royal Corps. Those Royal corps morphed into guerilla warriors, something that never happened in West Africa. Thus the ones in West Africa hardly saw any action since they neither fought in the First World War,as is the case with East Africans or rebelled against the colonialists . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:02am On Nov 08, 2016 |
naijalander:What pray tell are the physical differences between the Yoruba and the Berom?? Or the Igbo and the Adamawans?? In Kenya, there is a very clear difference between the tall Maasai and the relatively short Kisii and there is a major difference between a Somali and a Luo. One can see the differences between all 4 groups. Only a few communities like the Kikuyu, Taita and the Swahili , because of their mixed origins whose features are not distinct. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:16am On Nov 08, 2016 |
As of the matter of trade. In about 3 years, Nigeria(and West Africa at large) will be locked out of trading with much of East, Central and Southern Africa. The idea right now is that the three largest diversified economies of Africa have diecided to lock in the largest trading blocs on the continent for themselves. It is no mere coincidence that South Africa(largest in the SADC) Egypt(largest in COMESA) and Kenya(largest in EAC) are leading the talks for the Tripatriate Free Trade Area that will merge all three blocs into one mega trading bloc. One of the things it has adopted from COMESA is the 25% Duty on all manufactured items from outside the TFTA meaning Nigeria and ECOWAS by extension cannot export competitively to the TFTA,thus Nigeria, which only has a small presence in terms of trade in East and Central Africa will not have any presence at all as Egypt, Kenya and South Africa lock in the three blocs for themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:21am On Nov 08, 2016 |
naijalander:Kenya does not host anyone from Darfur. We barely have any relations with Sudan. Kenya's relations are with SOUTH Sudan which has nothing to do with Darfur. Somali Warlords have never been hosted in Kenya. Their money has found its way in Kenya but they cannot show themselves physically in the country. Even during the 2006 Somali elections (which were held in Kenya, not Somalia)did they attend. Last I checked, there has only ever been one Rwanda Genocide perpetrator who has ever lived in Kenya .Rwanda Genocide perpetrators live in the DRC as they are French speaking and would easily stand out in Kenya, which speaks English. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:23am On Nov 08, 2016 |
Henrydone:Really?? Switzerland is held in higher esteem than the United States, even if the US is the world superpower |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:44am On Nov 08, 2016 |
naijalander:And which 'institutions' are these Manufacturing?? Nope. Nigeria hosts the record of being the only country where even Chinese factories cannot operate (ZTE shut down its factory in Nigeria) reason:Epileptic electricity. Nigeria, a crude oil producer imports fuel from Ghana. Up to 2013, Kenya refined imported cride and even exported refined fuel to Uganda Banking??Nigeria's banking is BIG.Bigger than Kenya no doubt. But by far less sophisticated than Kenyan banking. Its like American banking and Swiss banking. The former is big, but still uses magnetic stripe cards to date. Nigeria is the country where because of lack of electricity, the introduction of ATMs in the late 80s backfired and they only made a comeback in the early 2000s. Kenya's ATMs were introduced in 1983 and have been there all through. Transport??Nigeria does not even have a National carrier. And how many times has the country been on an airline blacklist Kenya's Kenya Airways may have its own profitability issues the past two years but one thing the KQ airline has never compromised is quality . Plus Murtala Mohammed Airport looks like an 1890 US steel behemoth . And last year most airlines could not land in Nigeria because of all things, fuel shortage??You know there are some things that defy logic because Kenya, an oil importer has never had shortages on the scale Nigeria, a fuel producer, has had. The worst shortage that Kenya has ever had was due to pipeline failure leading to the Western parts of the country missing fuel rather than there being an actual fuel shortage!! Is it Tourism?? Is it security??Kenya has its security challenges, yet we do not have half of our country hating and slaughtering the other half like Nigeria.Yes, we hear of the ever permanent war between Fulani herdsmen and farmers and how Kaduna Muslims imposed Sharia law in a state that is 45% Christian. Or how in a turn of Hypocrisy, Hausas demand representation in Jos, where they are not native but can never allow native Christians in Northern Nigeria the same let alone Christian migrants in the South the same representation.Nor do we have a terrorist group composed of native Kenyans holding territory within our own country like Boko Haram(Because Al Shabaab is a SOMALI oranisation and it launches its attacks from Somalia as it has no area of control in Kenya). So which' institutions" are these?? So 6 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 10:56am On Nov 08, 2016 |
This response shows how narrow minded you are presently but no worries, we have been there. When I first arrived Kenya, I thought all Kenyans look exactly the same with the ridiculously large foreheads. The longer I stayed, the more the physical differences became clear. If you must know, a typical Naija Northerner is tall, dark, lanky and has curly hair. His skin is like a Southern Sudanese skin but his hair is curly like the Somalis (not all that curly). Goodluck Jonathan, the former president is an Ijaw from the South, does he look anything remotely like Moha Buhari who is a Fulani from the North the current president? The latter basically looks like a Somali dude on a typical day. You are not even worth the data am spending on this argument bro. Cheers. GERALD710: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 10:58am On Nov 08, 2016 |
Huge lie, they saw actions alright, some people have grand fathers who participated in WW2. Also, google Lord Lugard's Hausa so you will understand how much experience these guys had. You disappoint me mehn GERALD710: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 11:02am On Nov 08, 2016 |
Stronger financial institutions (Naija owned banks operate branches in your country if you must know), as far as fintech in concerned, Kenyan banks only recently implemented sms alerts which have been in Naija since GSM arrived. In fact most of your core banking software consultants are eitherr Indian or Nigerian. Stronger religious institutions (RCCG, Winners, all have parishes in Kenya) Manufacturing (visit Aba, go to Katsina see the rice farms, largest in Africa, visit Ondo, see the large cocoa farms, Innoson Motors Enugu, and more) GERALD710: |
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