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Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:30pm On Nov 07, 2016
On August 11, 2008, Madam Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, the Chairperson of Nigeria Stock Exchange organised a fundraising dinner to support United States Presidential hopeful and Democrat Nominee, Senator Barrack Obama. In the said event that was help in Lagos, more than $630,000 (N94.5 Million) was raised to support Obama's candidacy. This event was held WITHOUT approval of Mr Obama, and also it was against the laws of America. Organisers held the event at a point when the average Nigeria could not boast of $2 in a day. In fact, Obama eventually won, but Nigeria got no special benefit of his Presidency. He was elected as the President of United States of America, and not anywhere else.

Like 2008, Nigerians are now concerned about the forthcoming USA Presidential contest between Republican nominee Donald Trump and Democrat Nominee Hilary Clinton.

In fact, I have seen various facebook pages, whatsapp groups and those of other forum run by Nigerians to solicit support for either of the candidates. It is ironical that most of these Clinton/Trump campaigners have never left the shores of Nigeria since they were born not to talk of possessing the right to vote in America. Some of them that are residents in America are either temporal residents or illegal residents. The negligible few that are citizens of America don't disturb the peace of Nigerians with the Trump/Clinton noise as they are concerned with their lives there.

It was laughable to read a piece that quoted Prof Wole Soyinka of threateing to destroy his American Green Card should Trump get elected. I laughed and ask, does Soyinka opinion or emotional feelngs now important in the scheme of things in America? Of what value is his Green Card to the American economy or even an average American? "na who even know Soyinka for America? Which American has his Green card helped for him to assume that Americans will be swayed by his emotional preference?

Though I am not for spiting Wole Soyinka or any Nigerian, but I think it is embarrassing for Nigerians to leave important pressing issues at home front just to appear important by joining the American campaign when their sermon are targeted at Nigerians with no single voting value in America. Beside, the emergence of either candidate will not help Nigeria out of recession. Americans are for America's interest, Nigerians should concern about Nigeria's interest.

A friend once told me that USA election affects the world, my reply to him was, same with the election of Nigeria, but should USA make wrong decision, they will bear the consequences and go down for another to rise. Same is applicable to every countries.

Finally my compatriots, let the truth be told, our opinion as Nigerians and non America citizens DOES NOT count in the American election. Let us at least learn to mind our business. I will end with two portions of the Bible:

"Interfering in someone else’s argument is as foolish as yanking a dog’s ears."- Proverbs 26:17

"Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before."- 1 Thessalonians 4:11



May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by mrvitalis(m): 8:32pm On Nov 07, 2016
Seriously why should i care if Americans elect a fish or cow as president??

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TopsyKrete: 8:35pm On Nov 07, 2016
make I pitch ma tent for here

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by ekanDamie: 8:38pm On Nov 07, 2016
I tire o. dey claim dey made a wrong decision in our own elections now dey want to gwan make anoda decision in a country dat does not concern us. why we like busy body like this? US elections is not Manchester Derby

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:39pm On Nov 07, 2016
mrvitalis:
Seriously why should i care if Americans elect a fish or cow as president??
This is a one million kobo question. Nigerians always like to be involved in things that doesn't concern them. Some are even taking it on their head even when they have neither visited local or international airport not to talk of travelling to the USA.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Flexherbal(m): 8:40pm On Nov 07, 2016
mrvitalis:
Seriously why should i care if Americans elect a fish or cow as president??
Because some of their policies may affect Nigeria directly or indirectly.
My opinion, though!

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 07, 2016
USA is the leadership of planet earth, if you are on earth and you are not interested in the leadership of the earth, then you are ignorant of the real history of the planet and the direction of the dynamics. The cosmos influence that determines the direction of the planet is a geared towards global leadership. And not some third world ignorant Presidents. I dont even remember tuning to Nigeria TV station in the last many years. Everyone I know tune to CNN and Sky News. I no get liver to tune to Nigerian TV, their English even annoys me big time. They wear funny caps inside house and the women wear hijab. What a confused country. Who wears cap indoors if not bunch of morons.

We are not sovereign yet, so dont blame people who need hope.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 8:43pm On Nov 07, 2016
The thing tire person.
This whole idea that Trump will support Biafra against the Nigeria goverment and the other idea that Clinton will support PMB is just foolish.
These IPOB illiterates are amazingly annoying

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:44pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:
[s]USA is the leadership of planet earth, if you are on earth and you are not interested in the leadership of the earth, then you are ignorant of the real history of the planet and the direction of the dynamics. The cosmos influence that determines the direction of the planet is a geared towards global leadership. And not some third world ignorant Presidents. I dont even remember tuning to Nigeria TV station in the last many years. Everyone I know tunes to CNN and Sky News.

We are not sovereign yet, so dont blame people who need hop[/s]e.
Empire rise, empire fall. Yesterday it was Greek, later it became Rome, then British became very powerful, at a point Germany was like all powerful, USSR too was, today USA is. If USA makes wrong decision, they will GIVE WAY for a new superpower. That has no business on the rest of the world including NIGERIA.

@The Bold, you are ignorant or unexposed

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Inkman(m): 8:44pm On Nov 07, 2016
If you don't know.. The President of American is the world's most powerful person, every country has a say in who takes the spot. Believe it or not, the decisions taken by that person directly or indirectly affects other countries.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by madridguy(m): 8:47pm On Nov 07, 2016
IPOB terrorists want Trump to un-sit PMB grin grin

I repeat, Hilary Clinton is a terrorist while Trump is a racist. Am more concern about price of Garri.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by ojun50(m): 8:48pm On Nov 07, 2016
We control d world that why ask me hw?

Bt don't Quote me

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:49pm On Nov 07, 2016
Inkman:
If you don't know.. The President of American is the world's most powerful person, every country has a say in who takes the spot. Believe it or not, the decisions taken by that person directly or indirectly affects other countries.
How? Last time I check before the USA became a powerful voice, there was Greece, there was Rome, there was USSR. Today, there is China and also Russia. If the USA slips, it will AFFECT the USA, they will give way for another powerhouse, especially China that has been waiting by the sidelines. USA is not ALL POWERFUL and their decision is for THEIR interests not OUR interests, likewise will be the consequences of wrong decision.

Meanwhile, even in the Security Council, the FIVE permanent members run the show.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 8:50pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Empire rise, empire falls. Yesterday it was Greek, later it became Rome, then British became very powerful, at a point Germany was like all powerful, USSR too was, today USA is. If USA makes wrong decision, they will GIVE WAY for a new superpower. That has no business on the rest of the world including NIGERIA.

@The Bold, you are ignorant or unexposed
What baffles me is why a very unlettered person like you who hasnt traveled out of this country in your life will attempt to form an opinion and even have the effrontery to address others who can educate you as ignorant.

You didnt bother to reason before writing. When you say Empires rise and fall, you are right. So why must I pay attention more to a third world country instead of identifying with the present world power ? I know you are unexposed in the global scheme of things so try and keep quiet and listen to others opinions instead of exposing your stupidity all of the time.

Why do you think America election is a global concern ? Because America is the present world power, and what ever happens there can make or mar the planet. So, if you dare insult me again, I will not hesitate to kick you around.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by realsammie(m): 8:51pm On Nov 07, 2016
Mr Op, America is the world leader so any decision they make will directly or indirectly have an impact on all the countries of the world (Nigeria included). I also read the part you said the decision of Nigeria can also have an impact on the world. How please?

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:56pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:
What baffles me is why a very unlettered person like you who hasnt traveled out of this country in your life will attempt to form an opinion and even have the effrontery to address others who can educate you as ignorant.
You are sounding emotional dude

You didnt bother to reason before writing. When you say Empires rise and fall, you are right.
At least you agree with me.

So why must I pay attention more to a third world country instead of identifying with the present world power ?
This post was addressed to citizens of the said THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES like you that has NO OPINION in American Affairs.
I know you are inexposed in the global scheme of things so try and keep quiet and listen to others opinions instead of exposing your stupidity all of the time.
Sorry bro, you have no opinion as long as America is concerned. You opinion starts and end in Nigeria and maybe West Africa.
Why do you think America election is a global concern ?
American is important in the scheme of themes like any other country but is it 100% Americans concern. That is why only eligible AMERICANS votes during election.
Because America is the present world power, and what ever happens there can make or mar the planet.
Empire rise, empire fall. There were world powers before America, there will be world powers should she fall
So, if you dare insult me again, I will not hesitate to kick you around.
Sounding emotional, you have no opinion in American affair.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:00pm On Nov 07, 2016
realsammie:
Mr Op, America is the world leader so any decision they make will directly or indirectly have an impact on all the countries of the world (Nigeria included).
America is the world leader, yes! But their elections are decided by Americans strictly based on American laws and their interest.

I also read the part you said the decision of Nigeria can also have an impact on the world. How please?
Is the crises in Syria not having impact in the world?

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by engineerboat(m): 9:02pm On Nov 07, 2016
Flexherbal:

Because some of their policies may affect Nigeria directly or indirectly.
My opinion, though!

As in

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by princemillla(m): 9:03pm On Nov 07, 2016
You hit it on point tonye. A well known and reputable banister posyed this on his fb page and I had to tell him. Wether Donald or Hilary, it doesn't change the fact that we are Africans.

It's normal to show interest in whom you think should win an election but not to be taken too far

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 9:05pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
You are sounding emotional dude


At least you agree with me.

This post was addressed to citizens of the said THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES like you that has NO OPINION in American Affairs. Sorry bro, you have no opinion as long as America is concerned. You opinion starts and end in Nigeria and maybe West Africa.
American is important in the scheme of themes like any other country but is it 100% Americans concern. That is why only eligible AMERICANS votes during election. Empire rise, empire fall.
Sounding emotional, you have no opinion in American affair.

You are not qualified to form an opinion on where anyone in this country should put his or her focus. Politics in the USA is the paradigm of Democracy. The so called Democracy we abuse in this your Nigeria is tailored towards America's democracy, so you are totally a very ignorant chap who takes himself too serious when no one really cares about your ill-informed opinion. Nigerians watch US politics to evaluate the progress of your idiotic politics.

I worry about the direction of US politics because America and her allies remain the alliance in the hemisphere that can make or mar global peace. So, little man, if you hate America do not make any silly attempt to sound convictions on a country you may never qualify to enter. Most of us have wives, kids, homes, friends etc in the USA and it makes what happens there important to us.

I know you are some village boy who doesnt know much about global politics and the dynamics of war play. So, keep reading this thread, you will be schooled by those who know better than you. Do not assume to know anything, cos you know nothing about life.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 9:07pm On Nov 07, 2016
madridguy:
IPOB terrorists want Trump to un-sit PMB grin grin

I repeat, Hilary Clinton is a terrorist while Trump is a racist. Am more concern about price of Garri.
The only reason to be interested in American politics is because the Igbos are, and God knows how much we relish the very thought of humiliating them every step of the way grin

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by princemillla(m): 9:10pm On Nov 07, 2016
Inkman:
If you don't know.. The President of American is the world's most powerful person, every country has a say in who takes the spot. Believe it or not, the decisions taken by that person directly or indirectly affects other countries.


You are missing his Point. Wether decision will affect us or not, we don't have a say on the election mater. The only people who has are those eligible voters/citizens. The way and manner some Nigerians are portraying this election is as if the elected president will make things easier for Nigeria in days to come

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:13pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:


You are not qualified to form an opinion of where anyone in this country to put his or her focus. Politics in the USA is the paradigm of Democracy. The so called Democracy we abuse in this your Nigeria is tailored towards America's democracy, so you are totally a very ignorant chap who takes himself too serious when no one really cares about your ill-informed opinion.
You are arguing off point. I can assure you that you are not following global politics more than me, but unlike you, I follow to keep abreast on events in the world and not to give irrelevant opinion that is of no effect anywhere. You are not a American, you are not a resident of America, you have no business in America, you have no job in America, you are not an American attachee or voter, yet you hide in your apartment in Nigeria to disturb the peace of Nigerians about some candidates in America like your opinion matters. Haba!

I worry about the direction of US politics because America and her allies remain the alliance in the hemisphere that can make or mar global peace. So, little man, if you hate America do not make any silly attempt to sound convictions on a country you may never qualify to enter. Most of us have wives, kids, homes, friends etc in the USA and it makes what happens there.
You see why I said you are emotional and not logical, that I am saying that BNigerians should mind their business because we have no opinion in America now means I hate America? Dude, you need to start growing up. It is never too late.

I know you are some village boy who doesnt know much about global politics and the dynamics of war play. So, keep reading this thread, you will be lectured by those who know better than you. Do not assume to know anything, cos you know nothing about life.
Lol, Mr Chestbeater, honestly, you know NOTHING about global events. Anyway, the koko is that YOU HAVE NO OPINION in America Affairs.

Stop acting like you have one. In fact, your existence is of no value to any American.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:16pm On Nov 07, 2016
princemillla:



You are missing his Point. Wether decision will affect us or not, we don't have a say on the election mater. The only people who has are those eligible voters/citizens. The way and manner some Nigerians are portraying this election is as if the elected president will make things easier for Nigeria in days to come
Exactly!

During Brexit, you will never see Americans worrying themselves about the decision of the British because their say is irrelevant. But Nigerians think a Trump will help fight Buhari or a Clinton will become the financier of APC. I don't just get

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Johnnyessence(m): 9:18pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
On August 11, 2008, Madam Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, the Chairperson of Nigeria Stock Exchange organised a fundraising dinner to support United States Presidential hopeful and Democrat Nominee, Senator Barrack Obama. In the said event that was help in Lagos, more than $630,000 (N94.5 Million) was raised to support Obama's candidacy. This event was held WITHOUT approval of Mr Obama, and also it was against the laws of America. Organisers held the event at a point when the average Nigeria could not boast of $2 in a day. In fact, Obama eventually won, but Nigeria got no special benefit of his Presidency. He was elected as the President of United States of America, and not anywhere else.

Like 2008, Nigerians are now concerned about the forthcoming USA Presidential contest between Republican nominee Donald Trump and Democrat Nominee Hilary Clinton.

In fact, I have seen various facebook pages, whatsapp groups and those of other forum run by Nigerians to solicit support for either of the candidates. It is ironical that most of these Clinton/Trump campaigners have never left the shores of Nigeria since they were born not to talk of possessing the right to vote in America. Some of them that are residents in America are either temporal residents or illegal residents. The negligible few that are citizens of America don't disturb the peace of Nigerians with the Trump/Clinton noise as they are concerned with their lives there.

It was laughable to read a piece that quoted Prof Wole Soyinka of threateing to destroy his American Green Card should Trump get elected. I laughed and ask, does Soyinka opinion or emotional feelngs now important in the scheme of things in America? Of what value is his Green Card to the American economy or even an average American? "na who even know Soyinka for America? Which American has his Green card helped for him to assume that Americans will be swayed by his emotional preference?

Though I am not for spiting Wole Soyinka or any Nigerian, but I think it is embarrassing for Nigerians to leave important pressing issues at home front just to appear important by joining the American campaign when their sermon are targeted at Nigerians with no single voting value in America. Beside, the emergence of either candidate will not help Nigeria out of recession. Americans are for America's interest, Nigerians should concern about Nigeria's interest.

A friend once told me that USA election affects the world, my reply to him was, same with the election of Nigeria, but should USA make wrong decision, they will bear the consequences and go down for another to rise. Same is applicable to every countries.

Finally my compatriots, let the truth be told, our opinion as Nigerians and non America citizens DOES NOT count in the American election. Let us at least learn to mind our business. I will end with two portions of the Bible:

"Interfering in someone else’s argument is as foolish as yanking a dog’s ears."- Proverbs 26:17

"Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before."- 1 Thessalonians 4:11



May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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pls we are not ready to read on ur epistle ok. Donald trump is winning this election no doubt about that. Donald trump with win in a landslide victory so tonye forget tomorrow election. Trump will win.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 9:19pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

You are arguing off point. I can assure you that you are not following global politics more than me, but unlike you, I follow to keep abreast on events in the world and not to give irrelevant opinion that is of no effect anywhere. You are not a American, you are not a resident of America, you have no business in America, you have no job in America, you are not an American attachee or voter, yet you hide in your apartment in Nigeria to disturb the peace of Nigerians about some candidates in America like your opinion matters. Haba!


You see why I said you are emotional and not logical, that I am saying that BNigerians should mind their business because we have no opinion in America now means I hate America? Dude, you need to start growing up. It is never too late.

I know you are some village boy who doesnt know much about global politics and the dynamics of war play. So, keep reading this thread, you will be lectured by those who know better than you. Do not assume to know anything, cos you know nothing about life.
Lol, Mr Chestbeater, honestly, you know NOTHING about global events. Anyway, the koko is that YOU HAVE NO OPINION in America Affairs.

Stop acting like you have one. In fact, your existence is of no value to any American.

All you type there doesnt make any sense. You have not mentioned why the global citizens shouldnt watch and pay attention to US politics. I will take it that you are ignorant of power play.

Our Naira is valued based on dollars as yardstick
Our Democracy is tailored towards US Democracy
Our electioneering campaign and voting are engineered in US style.

We are global citizens, and Nigerians are not exception. People need global leadership and US has always been that global leader that even your President beg to visit so he can take pictures. Okorocha even put up a bill board showing him shaking Obama's hands yet a small boy like you think you know enough to chastise people.

Stop chatting with me abeg, I didnt know you are this timid.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:22pm On Nov 07, 2016
Johnnyessence:
pls we are not ready to read on ur epistle ok. Donald trump is winning this election no doubt about that. Donald trump with win in a landslide victory so tonye forget tomorrow election. Trump will win.
Trump win or Clinton win, I don't give a damn. cheesy

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by EternalTruths: 9:26pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Trump win or Clinton win, I don't give a damn. cheesy

If Clinton wins, more Syria and Libya

If Trumps wins less Syria and Libya

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:26pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:


All you type there doesnt make any sense. You have not mentioned why the global citizens shouldnt watch and pay attention to US politics. I will take it that you are ignorant of power play.
Everyone pays attention including me, but READ AND COMPREHEND the op, stop acting like you have opinion.

Our Naira is valued based on dollars as yardstick
Our Democracy is tailored towards US Democracy
Our electioneering campaign and voting are engineered in US style.

We are global citizens, and Nigerians are not exception. People need global leadership and US has always been that global leader that even your President beg to visit so he can take pictures. Okorocha even put up a bill board showing him shaking Obama's hands yet a small boy like you think you know enough to chastise people.

Stop chatting with me abeg, I didnt know you are this timid.
So how does that grant you privilege to participate in USA electoral process ? Dude, you have no opinion as long as their affairs is concerned

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by BiafraBushBoy(m): 9:28pm On Nov 07, 2016
Most of them are Igbos, who have cultivated Hatred for Buhari and channeling it to support trump!! A man that is a known racist and advent hater of minorities.
I wonder if they believe in the propaganda that trump will help bring biaf*a... bullshit!!!
Trump might win, but it will lead to something more bigger...

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:29pm On Nov 07, 2016
EternalTruths:


If Clinton wins, more Syria and Libya

If Trumps wins less Syria and Libya
I am not a Syrian, I am not a Libyan, I don't give a damn. Beside, I am only after the interest of Nigeria.

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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 9:31pm On Nov 07, 2016
EternalTruths:


If Clinton wins, more Syria and Libya

If Trumps wins less Syria and Libya

Who is feeding you lot with this fear factor ?

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