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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:56pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
tbaba1234:Only 10? Well, wishing others safe arrival. Thanks 4 d update Sir. tbaba. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:56pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
tbaba1234: I can not tell other games but in the game against South Africa at Uyo, when we added Aluko to the midfield, we controlled the game better. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:59pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Official: Former Barcelona Teen Prospect Godswill Elohor Joins English Side ![]() English League One side Fleetwood Town FC have confirmed the signing of former Barcelona youth team captain Godswill Elohor Ekpolor. The club announced his capture and subsequently unveiled him on their official website, with the 21 year old Nigerian given the jersey number 29 shirt. Fleetwood Town also confirmed that the Nigerian could feature in tonight’s Emirates FA Cup First Round tie against Southport. He spent 11 years at Barcelona before he was released by the club this summer without a single first team appearance to his name. Comfortable as a full back, centre back or right winger, he missed out on a chance of representing Nigeria at the Rio 2016 Olympics, where Nigeria won bronze. Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/07/official-former-barcelona-teen-prospect-godswill-elohor-joins-english-side/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:03pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Mickael2: I just tire. Khedira and Onazi. Khedira is a genius with the ball. It seems he has eyes in the back of his head. They are of totally different styles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:06pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
lakesidepapa:Onazi gets alot of unfair criticism by alot of people here, I feel he is an easy target because he is not a flashy player. Most people don't know it was a choice between him and Emre Can when Liverpool wanted to beef up their midfield. Liverpool offered Lazio Fabio Borini in exchange for Onazi, the deal didn't work out in the end. If he was as bad as people believe he won't be highly thought of by such a big club. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: Did you watch Khedira at the World Cup? Most especially, that Brazilian game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:11pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I watched the game. He had a stunning game. However, He didn't control game with his passing... TONI KROSS and Shweinstiger controlled the game in midfield while Khedira terrorised the Brazilians with his energy and pressing. The Brazilians couldn't cope with his running all game long. I repeat, khedira is not a passer rather he's a runner. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:12pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Victor Moses Keen To Replicate Form For Chelsea With Nigeria Despite Change In Position ![]() Chelsea wing back Victor Moses is eager to play a vital role for Nigeria when they take on Algeria in the World Cup 2018 qualifiers next weekend in Uyo. The 25 year old Nigerian has been one of the consistent performers for Chelsea this season after new manager Antonio Conte switched to a 3-4-3 formation. As a wing back, the Nigerian has reinvented himself at Stamford Bridge but he could be lined up as a winger for Nigeria when they take on Algeria. Moses back in the team after missing the last game which the Super Eagles won 2-1 away to Zambia in Ndola, wrote about his excitement ahead of the game on his official twitter handle despite a possible change of role. ”After a great result on Saturday for Chelsea now it’s time to focus on #Nigeria. Can’t wait for the game against Algeria this Saturday”. He posted. Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/07/victor-moses-keen-to-replicate-form-for-chelsea-with-nigeria-despite-change-in-position/ 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:13pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: I have not seen anyone criticising Onazi negatively. It is a case of set up. If we want someone who will sit in front of the defence and break down plays of the opposition, Onazi is a good choice. His tenacity, intensity and work rate is mind blowing. We saw it in his last game for the Super Eagles against Zambia. However, if we want to play in a holistic passing way, we need players who rely on their distribution to make the team strong. I do not see that as a strong point of Onazi. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:17pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: In that game, Khedira's passing was amazing. His intelligence was off the chain. There is no way, Onazi can deliver such passing performance. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:18pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: Abi. The same Onazi that got the knock of his life from Mutuidi as he was schooling the french team in the mid field. As far as complete baller and DM is concern, Onazi is better than Ndidi. That's my Own. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:20pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: STATISTICS Khedira managed to grab himself a goal and an assist while dismantling the Brazilians, but the Real Madrid man did so much more than just that. The German completed 87% of his passes, took 55 touches, and made two key passes. Khedira's powerful running in the midfield was vital to Germany's success and he had two successful dribbles in the match. http://eplindex.com/56044/sami-khedira-vs-brazil-player-performance-analysis.html |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:22pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
lakesidepapa: In what aspect? That is what we are discussing. A holistic passing approach. A player who will complement the passing abilities of Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho. Do you see Onazi as that type of player? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 10:24pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd, how are you and Yara Yara reacting to Moses' tweet? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:24pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Against France, immediately Onazi went off, the midfield collapsed... He is important to our set-up and does a lot of harassing of opponents. Reuben Gabriel was a disaster. I believe Ndidi and Onazi together will solidify the midfield and give mikel more room. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:29pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: I thought someone showed the stats on how Onazi passing completion per % outclassed that of Ndidi, what are we arguing on here sir? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 10:41pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:47pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Hmmm...... Hmmmm..... Oga Experience himself!!! Indeed I greet you again... [img]http://media4./media/Hm3ZMI68o17os/200_s.gif[/img] Spoken like a true Arch-guardian indeed... ![]() Anyway shaa, I too expect Isaac Success to step up and make that no.9 his before super hot competition in Osimhen shows up in the later parts of 2017. But for now, especially with the Algeria game in view, It just gotta be Ighalo or maybe Ideye. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
lakesidepapa: I am talking of someone putting Onazi as a Khedira kind of player. By the way, this is the pass completion of Onazi. I do not think that is the passing rate of the midfielder we need.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:00pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Even Maradona was angry. He termed it a conspiracy. The french knew Onazi was their problem in midfield and they did what all desperate war generals trying to win a war will do.... "TAKE OUT THE THREAT ANYHOW!" Matuidi was given the task and viola!!! Onazi was out... Matuidi went for him the first time but Onazi escaped. At the second time of asking, Matuidi nailed it!!!! Chaiiiii... Onazi's absence made our midfield an expressway that day and Mikel wasn't on form himself... Thus giving the French victory. Each time I remember that game, I remember the "importance" of Onazi. Reuben Gabriel was an catastrophe..... Meanwhile, if we play both Onazi and Ndidi in midfield, what formation are we looking at? Coz in a 4-2-3-1, that means Mikel roams as the no.10 and also does some CMF duty while being flanked by the mercurial Iwobi (who can also play 10) and Victor Moses..... Leaving someone like Nacho to lead the attack. Hmmm...... ![]() tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:02pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Chai! This is somebody that needed the olympics, i don see, from barca to league one. First class to second class lower lalala lol. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:03pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: No one argues Onazi's defensive ability. In the game against France, he broke down their attacks. I think the Zambian game is a good representation because it is recent. Onazi was also exceptional. However, just like the Schweinsteiger/Khedira analogy. A holistic passing team needs a passing defensive midfielder. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:07pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Unfortunately, no stats to show the rate of Wilfred Ndidi. It is just the Europa League stats. That means I will stick with Onazi in midfield because I can not justify Ndidi's inclusion statistically. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:08pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Onazi posted 86% pass completion percentage against France. He broke up play, recycled that ball, was fearless in possession. He basically dominated Pogba and Matuidi in that midfield master class. Yes Onazi was that good. You can post Khedira's stats in that game but he was not the controller in midfield for Germany. Germany played a formation of 4-3-3 on the day with Kross and Shweinstiger at the Base while khedira pushed up with his energy to stop the Brazilians from playing in their own half. Kross and Mostly Sebastian were tasked to launch quick passes to set up fast attacks. It was a master class of Joachim loew's sophisticated 8 seconds counter attack football. Ozil and Muller started from the flanks. Khedira has never been a midfield controller. Maybe you haven't watched him enough. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:11pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: Come on, Onazi played behind Mikel against France. Khedira was not the shield of the defence. Stop making it look like they played the same role. You tried to make it look as if Khedira was not a passing genius in that match. He was. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:14pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:If you call him a passing genius, I wonder what you will call Shweinstiger and Toni. Toni Kross and Sebastian were taxed to launch quick counters with their passing range to set up attacks from deep. It was a master class of Jochim Loew's 8 seconds counter attacking football. Infact Khedira's whoscored stats show he has limited passing range. I can't stress this enough. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:20pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
My brother, no mind that tweet jare..... ![]() We no dey take chances.... Right now, I have Yara Yara stationed at the Abuja airport watchtower. He has made contacts with other aviation authorities monitoring Moses' route... We wanna make sure he lands for good and not pick up an injury while in the air... Yara Yara right now be like....... [img]http://media4./media/yoJC2qucp69lGypIuQ/200_s.gif[/img] ..................... Other watchtower officials be like.... ![]() [img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/373/kimjongz.PNG[/img] This is to tell you that Moses' matter is serious... .................... While I am monitoring events from my labs..... We have a special radar room.... It's not eureka yet until Victor Moses lands for good in camp... *checks time* [img]http://media0./media/hl0Kk1UNmRfQk/200_s.gif[/img] Certitude: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:22pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:If you don't know Khedira and Onazi play the same kind of football then there is mo point discussing this further. They both have the same engine, they love the midfield battle, they both are highly mobile and they both have the same pass limitations over a distance. Khedira and Onazi needs are midfield controller beside them. Khedira had Alonso and Modric at Madrid and now Miralem Pjanic at Juve. On his own, he cannot be tasked to give defense splitting passes. That's not what he's good at. Michael2 even confirmed this. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:26pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: How can anyone say Onazi and Khedira play the same kind of football? They are totally different players. Onazi defends with more intensity than Khedira. Khedira is sleeker on the ball than Onazi. Khedira is a better dribbler than Onazi and Khedira does key passes in front of the opponents 18 yard box than Onazi. They are not the same kind of players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:35pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Well, it's not like I don't get you Sir GoodJoe... I actually do. Sir Mickael2 have always favored Ndidi over Onazi too anyway.... For the same reason you give here, "Holistic passing pattern/set-up" ![]() But for the game against Algeria, Onazi will start. We'll be up against a Mahrez-Feghouli-Brahimi-Slimani attack... Onazi is needed to "break up their attacking threats" and leave the pieces for Mikel for pick up and feed to the attacking quartet of Nacho, Iwobi, Moses and Ighalo/Ideye. Ndidi is my preferred DMF for the long run in the Super Eagles (although Chidi Nwakali, an improved Anderson Esiti and even Azubuike Okechukwu will give him a good battle).... As he will grow even better in Onazi's DMF main strength, "breaking up plays". But for the Algeria game, It has to be Onazi.... Ndidi can do a good job if given the nod but It will be Onazi starting not Ndidi. No one (or rather a negligible few) is even considering John Ogu sef... Na wa for una oooo... Looollll TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:38pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: Siasia should have taken this guy to the Olympics instead of Ndifreke that was a disaster. It would have made it easier for him to find a better club. He is better than league 1 though and he is young. He will rise. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:43pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
goldfish80: Khedira is a passing genius. Sami Khedira passing was on point against Spain, recording a 91 per cent pass completion rate and creating one goalscoring opportunity. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/11/19/5-tackles-91-per-cent-pass-accuracy-arsenal-linked-star-khedira/page/1/ |
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