GERALD710:

And which 'institutions' are these
Manufacturing?? Nope. Nigeria hosts the record of being the only country where even Chinese factories cannot operate (ZTE shut down its factory in Nigeria) reason:Epileptic electricity. Nigeria, a crude oil producer imports fuel from Ghana. Up to 2013, Kenya refined imported cride and even exported refined fuel to Uganda
Banking??Nigeria's banking is BIG.Bigger than Kenya no doubt. But by far less sophisticated than Kenyan banking. Its like American banking and Swiss banking. The former is big, but still uses magnetic stripe cards to date. Nigeria is the country where because of lack of electricity, the introduction of ATMs in the late 80s backfired and they only made a comeback in the early 2000s. Kenya's ATMs were introduced in 1983 and have been there all through.
Transport??Nigeria does not even have a National carrier. And how many times has the country been on an airline blacklist Kenya's Kenya Airways may have its own profitability issues the past two years but one thing the KQ airline has never compromised is quality .
Plus Murtala Mohammed Airport looks like an 1890 US steel behemoth .
And last year most airlines could not land in Nigeria because of all things, fuel shortage??You know there are some things that defy logic because Kenya, an oil importer has never had shortages on the scale Nigeria, a fuel producer, has had. The worst shortage that Kenya has ever had was due to pipeline failure leading to the Western parts of the country missing fuel rather than there being an actual fuel shortage!!
Is it Tourism??
Is it security??Kenya has its security challenges, yet we do not have half of our country hating and slaughtering the other half like Nigeria.Yes, we hear of the ever permanent war between Fulani herdsmen and farmers and how Kaduna Muslims imposed Sharia law in a state that is 45% Christian. Or how in a turn of Hypocrisy, Hausas demand representation in Jos, where they are not native but can never allow native Christians in Northern Nigeria the same let alone Christian migrants in the South the same representation.Nor do we have a terrorist group composed of native Kenyans holding territory within our own country like Boko Haram(Because Al Shabaab is a SOMALI oranisation and it launches its attacks from Somalia as it has no area of control in Kenya).
So which' institutions" are these??
So

Leave these Nigerians alone. they are suffering from depression cos their country dont seems to get it right on almost every front of human development

German East African Campaign.

Buglers of the 3rd. Battalion Nigeria Regiment sounding the Hausa Farewell. This is sounded when Officers and N.C.O.s leave the country or are transferred to other units.

January 1917

© (IWM) Imperial War Musems





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GERALD710:

How am I not making any sense??
Troops that fought for the British (as well as the French, in the case of Algeria) who went back home created an insurgency that paved way for independence.That applies to Algeria,Zimbabwe and Kenya of which the latter also had Royal Corps.
Those Royal corps morphed into guerilla warriors, something that never happened in West Africa. Thus the ones in West Africa hardly saw any action since they neither fought in the First World War,as is the case with East Africans or rebelled against the colonialists .

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German East African Campaign.

the Governor General of Nigeria, Sir Frederick Lugard, addressing a draft of the Nigeria Regiment from the bridge of the British Transport "Hymettus", Lagos prior to the vessels' departure for East Africa.

1914 - 1918

© (IWM) Imperial War Musems

and what business is this to you?

Just30:
Leave these Nigerians alone. they are suffering from depression cos their country dont seems to get it right on almost every front of human development

naijalander:
and what business is this to you?

Let me rephrase my earlier question to you that you have conveniently elected to evade (which was, do you have any Kenyan friends? ).
Let's go again, this time more direct and pointed : What is the extent of your social integration within Kenya, seeing as it is you claim to have lived for 10 years there?

-- I have tasted Changa'a. (only tasted) and it is indeed a terrible liquid to fill your stomach with.
-- Used to attend Blankets & Wine quite often
-- Also club hopped Westlands every weekend
-- Kisumu, Lamu, Nyeri (did some work in Nyeri), Mombasa, been there done that.


That should define the extent of my social integration within Kenya properly.

Hopefully you are convinced now, I do have a lot of Kenyan friends I have these kinda arguments with but you guys set a different standard on being closed minded.

MtuMsuper:

Let me rephrase my earlier question to you that you have conveniently elected to evade (which was, do you have any Kenyan friends? ).
Let's go again, this time more direct and pointed : What is the extent of your social integration within Kenya, seeing as it is you claim to have lived for 10 years there?

mehn I don't even use cabs when am Nairobi, I use Mats, thats how much I know the town.

MtuMsuper:

Let me rephrase my earlier question to you that you have conveniently elected to evade (which was, do you have any Kenyan friends? ).
Let's go again, this time more direct and pointed : What is the extent of your social integration within Kenya, seeing as it is you claim to have lived for 10 years there?

naijalander:
-- I have tasted Changa'a. (only tasted) and it is indeed a terrible liquid to fill your stomach with.
-- Used to attend Blankets & Wine quite often
-- Also club hopped Westlands every weekend
-- Kisumu, Lamu, Nyeri (did some work in Nyeri), Mombasa, been there done that.


That should define the extent of my social integration within Kenya properly.

Hopefully you are convinced now, I do have a lot of Kenyan friends I have these kinda arguments with but you guys set a different standard on being closed minded.

*sigh*
You don't qualify as someone who can comment on this topic irrespective of the above assertions. Why?
1. Social integration within a society by a non native is described by how well you know and understand the norms,cultural nuances and customs of the host society in relation to one's own. Clubbing or other hedonistic activities do not and can never define this, but rather explain one's lifestyle choices. I was expecting you to talk of how you have managed yourself or you could have even regaled us with tales of a faux pas or two in order to explain the cultural differences between us. Or how your dietary habits are seeing as you claim to be 10 yrs in Kenya. Or ones musical orientation in your adopted country.
2. One's ability in a foreign language is proof of one's interest and respect for his host nation. Do you speak any kenyan language, even a smattering? If you do, and are able to conduct oneself with ease in the common tongue:that is a sign of social integration. Where do you stand in this regard?
3. You cannot impose on anyone here ultimatums regarding the topic at hand without providing succinct proof or compelling argument. To wit you have made assertions more than once about 9ja having "stronger ' institutions. I counter that with one interesting but rather sad analogy. Both Kenya and 9ja are facing an onslaught from fanatical and dangerous terrorist organizations, but we both know that alshabab are a group that operates from across in Somalia to target kenyans in kenya in hit and run guerrilla tactics that for the most part are well contained nowadays, as opposed to the situation in 9ja where they actually took large swathes of territory and imposed mayhem on the general populace in the affected regions. A considerable swathe of territory. That can NEVER happen in Kenya.

Point number 1 is funny coming from a guy from a people well known for their alcoholism and debauchery, not that I have anything to explain to you but I'd rather not, believe what you want, it's your brain not mine.

So it is fine for you to high light only the good parts of Kenya but comfortably skip the good things about Nigeria, I fear for you. And yes my swah is pretty good actually.

Finally, before you make comments about BH or Al Shabaab, maybe do your research well into the root causes to BH for example. If you must know BH also uses Guerilla tactics that's why fighting the is hard. In fact most arrested members are actually citizens of Niger Republic not Nigeria. Nigeria is complex for sure so you may find it difficult to understand the reason why this argument was even worth having in the first place.

I have to admit, am exhausted with this argument.

Everyone has a right to pride in his or her nationality. Nigerians feel superior, that's where our exceptionalism comes from, I am the greatest, I said that way before I ever was the greatest. That should summarise this debate.

Speaking of culture, Naija is conservative, Kenya is quite liberal. I'll go into details later.

MtuMsuper:

*sigh*
You don't qualify as someone who can comment on this topic irrespective of the above assertions. Why?
1. Social integration within a society by a non native is described by how well you know and understand the norms,cultural nuances and customs of the host society in relation to one's own. Clubbing or other hedonistic activities do not and can never define this, but rather explain one's lifestyle choices. I was expecting you to talk of how you have managed yourself or you could have even regaled us with tales of a faux pas or two in order to explain the cultural differences between us. Or how your dietary habits are seeing as you claim to be 10 yrs in Kenya. Or ones musical orientation in your adopted country.
2. One's ability in a foreign language is proof of one's interest and respect for his host nation. Do you speak any kenyan language, even a smattering? If you do, and are able to conduct oneself with ease in the common tongue:that is a sign of social integration. Where do you stand in this regard?
3. You cannot impose on anyone here ultimatums regarding the topic at hand without providing succinct proof or compelling argument. To wit you have made assertions more than once about 9ja having "stronger ' institutions. I counter that with one interesting but rather sad analogy. Both Kenya and 9ja are facing an onslaught from fanatical and dangerous terrorist organizations, but we both know that alshabab are a group that operates from across in Somalia to target kenyans in kenya in hit and run guerrilla tactics that for the most part are well contained nowadays, as opposed to the situation in 9ja where they actually took large swathes of territory and imposed mayhem on the general populace in the affected regions. A considerable swathe of territory. That can NEVER happen in Kenya.

naijalander:
Point number 1 is funny coming from a guy from a people well known for their alcoholism and debauchery, not that I have anything to explain to you but I'd rather not, believe what you want, it's your brain not mine.

So it is fine for you to high light only the good parts of Kenya but comfortably skip the good things about Nigeria, I fear for you. And yes my swah is pretty good actually.

Finally, before you make comments about BH or Al Shabaab, maybe do your research well into the root causes to BH for example. If you must know BH also uses Guerilla tactics that's why fighting the is hard. In fact most arrested members are actually citizens of Niger Republic not Nigeria. Nigeria is complex for sure so you may find it difficult to understand the reason why this argument was even worth having in the first place.

I have to admit, am exhausted with this argument.

Everyone has a right to pride in his or her nationality. Nigerians feel superior, that's where our exceptionalism comes from, I am the greatest, I said that way before I ever was the greatest. That should summarise this debate.

Speaking of culture, Naija is conservative, Kenya is quite liberal. I'll go into details later.

I think the only consolation you have got in terms of superiority complex is the general population of Nigeria which has kept the common Nigerian to believe that it is a parameter of measuring "greatness". India has a populace of 1B with a GDP of 2.3 trillion, Singapore has a population of 6m with a GDP of 500b. Does that make India delude itself into calling itself a giant in Asia at all, NO! Indians dont use their population to bully other Asian countries due to huge population, NO.
My argument is that Singapore has a much more dynamic social-economic policies compared to India and most Asian neighbors with the exception of South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. Population or GDP base cannot be of any use if the general effect does not trickle down to strengthen infrastructure in a country.

naijalander:
Point number 1 is funny coming from a guy from a people well known for their alcoholism and debauchery,

You don't have any shame do you, and your arrogance and disrespect is barely contained, just come out and be fully anti kenyan like most of you folks naturally tend to be. I can't call you my brother. By all measures, intents and purposes you are exactly what i suspected you to be.Repeating the lies you grew up listening to doesn't make them true. Again, i repeat for the sake of repetition : if you feel bile towards your host country, would you blame me or any kenyan for telling you to up an quit. I mean, if you walk around with these sort of attitudes, you must ALWAYS get into trouble with locals, it's better you just quit.

Kenyanstar:


I think the only consolation you have got in terms of superiority complex is the general population of Nigeria which has kept the common Nigerian to believe that it is a parameter of measuring "greatness". India has a populace of 1B with a GDP of 2.3 trillion, Singapore has a population of 6m with a GDP of 500b. Does that make India delude itself into calling itself a giant in Asia at all, NO! Indians dont use their population to bully other Asian countries due to huge population, NO.
My argument is that Singapore has a much more dynamic social-economic policies compared to India and most Asian neighbors with the exception of South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. Population or GDP base cannot be of any use if the general effect does not trickle down to strengthen infrastructure in a country.

The poster called naijalander is a good example of what you are saying. They constantly throw that tired and useless GDP line. Don't forget the quality of life in Botswana and Namibia are much much much higher than 9ja, their smaller (gross) GDP notwithstanding.

much smaller population too.

MtuMsuper:

The poster called naijalander is a good example of what you are saying. They constantly throw that tired and useless GDP line. Don't forget the quality of life in Botswana and Namibia are much much much higher than 9ja, their smaller (gross) GDP notwithstanding.

Get over yourself. You don't know me so don't throw insults at me. I'm entitled to an opinion so get over it.

MtuMsuper:

You don't have any shame do you, and your arrogance and disrespect is barely contained, just come out and be fully anti kenyan like most of you folks naturally tend to be. I can't call you my brother. By all measures, intents and purposes you are exactly what i suspected you to be.Repeating the lies you grew up listening to doesn't make them true. Again, i repeat for the sake of repetition : if you feel bile towards your host country, would you blame me or any kenyan for telling you to up an quit. I mean, if you walk around with these sort of attitudes, you must ALWAYS get into trouble with locals, it's better you just quit.

NairobiWalker:


The fact that you can compare a slum in Kenya (which occupies less than 5% of urban land) to 'normal housing' in Ibadan that occupy over 70% of the city explains the situation in Kenyan and Nigerian cities. I rest my case.

Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

Naijalander,its not a quarrel! In fact its not even an argument. We provide figures which you ignore. Look at the latest:

In Summary

Kenya Power says it has set its eyes on connecting all Kenyan households to electricity in the next four years.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-Power-connects-1-2m-homes-to-the-national-grid/539546-3444450-higyd9z/

There'll be 100% coverage by 2021 latest! Pls,just tell me where Naij outdoes us;I only see GDP PPP? With sources,thanks!

Very well noted.

Please don't get me wrong. I love and respect how accommodating and liberal Kenya society is, what I do not love and respect is using said qualities to demean a densely populated, horribly administered yet promising society and conservative society for the sake of continental relevance. Kenya is a part of Africa, Nigeria is also a part of Africa, Africa is a complete shithole so why compare my shithole with yours?

kikuyu1:
Naijalander,its not a quarrel! In fact its not even an argument. We provide figures which you ignore. Look at the latest:




http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-Power-connects-1-2m-homes-to-the-national-grid/539546-3444450-higyd9z/

There'll be 100% coverage by 2021 latest! Pls,just tell me where Naij outdoes us;I only see GDP PPP? With sources,thanks!

naijalander:
Very well noted.

Please don't get me wrong. I love and respect how accommodating and liberal Kenya society is, what I do not love and respect is using said qualities to demean a densely populated, horribly administered yet promising society and conservative society for the sake of continental relevance. Kenya is a part of Africa, Nigeria is also a part of Africa, Africa is a complete shithole so why compare my shithole with yours?

From my view one is has rendered itself satisfied with it being a shit hole(Nigeria), while the other is making an effort of cleaning its mess. Thats where the difference is.....

I think if Nigerians are comfy with Naija being a shithole, you wouldn't find so much criticism online and offline to use against me in this argument. Half of your sources are articles written by Nigerians themselves. See why I said you aren't objective?

Kenyanstar:


From my view one is has rendered itself satisfied with it being a shit hole(Nigeria), while the other is making an effort of cleaning its mess. Thats where the difference is.....

Henrydone:
Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

Nigeria slum poverty stricken population = 150 million (150,000,000)
Kenya slum poor poverty stricken population =1 million ( Kibera=200k, others approx 800k).

Nigeria landmass = 923 000sq km.
Kenya landmass = 581 000 sq km.

Dude, NIGERIA at 923,000 km squared +200 MILLION PEOPLE,IS WORSE OFF IN ALL THE INDICES, WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

POINT IS:KENYA at[b] 580,000 km square+ 40 MILLION PEOPLE IS NOT AND IS NOT I REPEAT A SMALL COUNTRY BY ANY MEANS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FACTOR IN ITS POPULATION.

You do not make any sense at all, justaccept defeat!

Nigeria =approx 216 people per square km

Kenya =approx 70 people per square km

Nigeria is extremely small for its people.

naijalander:
I think if Nigerians are comfy with Naija being a shithole, you wouldn't find so much criticism online and offline to use against me in this argument. Half of your sources are articles written by Nigerians themselves. See why I said you aren't objective?

Kenya too as a country has its critics in the name of civil society.... They prey on the poor to advance their agenda of milking western countries in terms of NGO funding potraying a negative social spectrum. But we as Kenyans dont sit back waiting for manor from above to change the situation in the past 20yrs. A lot of changes economically, socially and politically have happened that has reset the course of Kenya's stators as an emerging developed country.
1. Advent of multiparty elections
2. Change of the constitution to enable a free society
3. Setting of the vision 2030 blueprint of the country
4. Massive infrastructure overhaul and expansion
etc

KwachImani:


Nigeria slum poverty stricken population = 150 million (150,000,000)
Kenya slum poor poverty stricken population =1 million ( Kibera=200k, others approx 800k).

Nigeria landmass = 923 000sq km.
Kenya landmass = 581 000 sq km.

Dude, NIGERIA at 923,000 km squared +200 MILLION PEOPLE,IS WORSE OFF IN ALL THE INDICES, WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

POINT IS:KENYA at[b] 580,000 km square+ 40 MILLION PEOPLE IS NOT AND IS NOT I REPEAT A SMALL COUNTRY BY ANY MEANS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FACTOR IN ITS POPULATION.

You do not make any sense at all, justaccept defeat!

Here again fabricating figures, The number of Kenyans living in kibera alone are almost 3 million

Kenya-The shire with the worst slum in the world

While Kenya is going for Vision 2030 (which to me is unrealistic), Naija has her Millennium Development Goals (MDG) set for the next 1000 years from 2000. Honestly I find it insulting you think Nigerians are comfy in misery, you think its easy to administer a nation of 170m people with a background of feudal political structures, cultural and religious dogmatism and never say die attitude, think again.

Kenyanstar:


Kenya too as a country has its critics in the name of civil society.... They prey on the poor to advance their agenda of milking western countries in terms of NGO funding potraying a negative social spectrum. But we as Kenyans dont sit back waiting for manor from above to change the situation in the past 20yrs. A lot of changes economically, socially and politically have happened that has reset the course of Kenya's stators as an emerging developed country.
1. Advent of multiparty elections
2. Change of the constitution to enable a free society
3. Setting of the vision 2030 blueprint of the country
4. Massive infrastructure overhaul and expansion
etc

Kenyanstar:


From my view one is has rendered itself satisfied with it being a shit hole(Nigeria), while the other is making an effort of cleaning its mess. Thats where the difference is.....

Nigeria certainly does not have 150M people living in slums, what is the source of this data. Unless you consider the country one giant slum, this has got to be a joke. And Kenya definitely has much more than a million people living in slums. You lady are not being objective!

Do villages count as slums? Does living in a 100 year old house with pit toilet mean you live in a slum? No Does living in a house made of iron roofing sheet surrounded by horrible drainage make a slum, yes.

KwachImani:


Nigeria slum poverty stricken population = 150 million (150,000,000)
Kenya slum poor poverty stricken population =1 million ( Kibera=200k, others approx 800k).

Nigeria landmass = 923 000sq km.
Kenya landmass = 581 000 sq km.

Dude, NIGERIA at 923,000 km squared +200 MILLION PEOPLE,IS WORSE OFF IN ALL THE INDICES, WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

POINT IS:KENYA at[b] 580,000 km square+ 40 MILLION PEOPLE IS NOT AND IS NOT I REPEAT A SMALL COUNTRY BY ANY MEANS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FACTOR IN ITS POPULATION.

You do not make any sense at all, justaccept defeat!

naijalander:
Nigeria certainly does not have 150M people living in slums, what is the source of this data. Unless you consider the country one giant slum, this has got to be a joke. And Kenya definitely has much more than a million people living in slums. You lady are not being objective!

Do villages count as slums? Does living in a 100 year old house with pit toilet mean you live in a slum? No Does living in a house made of iron roofing sheet surrounded by horrible drainage make a slum, yes.

Don't mind that dude ,he's just been controlled by emotion,he's an unrealistic fella

Henrydone:
Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

Courtesy wikipedia
80 percent of Lagos 25m population lives in slums or poor areas of towns.
Lagos poorest Slums in Population of 2006
Agege- 500,000
Ajegunle- 555,000
Amukoko- 200,000
Badia- 160,000
Bariga-190,000
Bodija- 100,000
Ijeshatedo/Itire- 170,000
Ilaje- 150,000
Iwaya- 140,000
Makoko-150,000
Mushin- 160,000
Oke-Offa Babasale- 150,000
Somolu- 120,000

Abuja Slums population
70 percent of Abuja's 1,235,880 population lives in slums or poor areas of towns.

naijalander:
While Kenya is going for Vision 2030 (which to me is unrealistic), Naija has her Millennium Development Goals (MDG) set for the next 1000 years from 2000. Honestly I find it insulting you think Nigerians are comfy in misery, you think its easy to administer a nation of 170m people with a background of feudal political structures, cultural and religious dogmatism and never say die attitude, think again.

Vision 2030 itafika upende usipende. Hayo matarajio tutatimiza kwa asilimia 80 ikipungua. Labda utuelezee juhudi za kwenu. Umesema hapa weye shupavu wa lugha, nakuamrisha unirudie na lugha.
Ps: Usiwe mwepesi wa kujibu,busara sio bidhaa ya dukani. Jibu pole pole

Henrydone:
Don't mind that dude ,he's just been controlled by emotion,he's an unrealistic fella

Did you forget to atleast be honest to the other Nairalanders and actually tell them what else is going on the aforementioned slums. Or you dicided to be blind to the Kenyan government efforts to rid Kenya of the slums and install infrastructure and basic amenities!!! THIS IS AIMED AT ACHIEVING VISION 2030.
KIBERA SLUM UPGRADING PROJECT

Henrydone:
Don't mind that dude ,he's just been controlled by emotion,he's an unrealistic fella

The Kibera alleged population is false, a propaganda intended by the NGOs working there to fleece donors. Check out one of this 2012, (v) part expose by The Guardian, with the rubric The missing millions of Kibera, a revelation which rocked the world as it implicated even such distinguished organizations as UNDP.

Prior to that expose, three years earlier in 2009, the govt conducted its decennial census (every year ending with a 9 is a census year in Kenya, since 1969) which revealed that Kibera, the largest slum in Kenya had merely 170, 700people, a far cry from 2.5million as was claimed by the aid agencies. Here>>>.

It was claimed in the 2000s that Kibera had that much population, yet the city of Nairobi then had hardly 3million people. Even now, Nairobi's total population is estimated at just 3.5million.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4461430_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4461431_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362

Now, if u add up the total population of both slums, it equals almost the current estimated population of Nairobi, which is to suggest that more than 90% of the residents of Nairobi live in slums- those two slums in particular, which is a big nonsense.

Henrydone:
Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

Lol ,a person who can't even use proper grammar & uses wrong facts is now an international development expert,an authoritative demographer and a socio-economic luminary? Get back in line and go back to school.

Last time i checked Comoros,Cape Verde,Seychelles and Mauritius are the smallest countries in Africa.