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Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 7:55pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter: You are in no way authorized to speak for most women, white or black so cut that crap. I recently posted an article that many women find guys who stay home, doing chores and helping out undesirable and choose the alpha males who dont I read an article that women want different types of men in the different phases of their menstrual cycle and life, now what? I have attended several churches and gathering in the US that are white dominated and most of the women dont work and dont want any of those women liberation stuff, They actually bully and lash at women who choose to work even ganging up on them names for not doing what nature wants females to do I live in Europe and I have white friends, plenty, but I do not know one woman who fancies Trump. Believe whatever you want and if you think that Trump is most women's dream, may your daughters and sisters marry a man like him. 6 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by raumdeuter: 7:59pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: I did not speak for them, they spoke for themselves by voting a misogyny over a woman who preached female liberation. I read an article that women want different types of men in the different phases of their menstrual cycle and life, now what? Now tie your article you read to the discussion I live in Europe and I have white friends, plenty, but I do not know one woman who fancies Trump. Before the elections the polls was showing about 70% women support for Hillary, after elections it showed majority of women voted Trump. What do we believe, what they said openly to you, or what they did when it was them and their ballot? 8 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:00pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
KillerPriest: If Hillary and her team were smarter, they would have applied pathos too but they didn't so they were not as smart as they were thinking. The problem with the establishment is that they forget what appeals to ordinary people and then they lose. I am curious how it will play out. The way I see it, America has been on the road to decline for a long time now and I see them accelerating. The fact that someone like Trump was even allowed to run for president shows how messed up the country is. It is nothing but a symptom of deeper core issues. Bush fvcked the country up, Trump has the potential to destroy it. My guess is that he will be impeached. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Diplomaticbeing(m): 8:03pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
@OP, kudos. In addition to all you have succinctly said, popularity/commonness does not win elections anywhere, but influence does. . . . He was able to influence the conservative whites, in whose domains majority of electoral college electors emerged. 2 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by KillerPriest: 8:12pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Onegai: Ah, emotions tend to run roughshod over logic. It's the bane of humankind. ‘Tis why a General can jolt his army out of fear and cowardice, and instigate them to launching an attack simply by singing or chanting an emotive song. It doesn't matter if the opponent has the numerical advantage or whether their defeat is certain, the soldiers would still plunge in fearless into the battle because the song would have put them in animal spirits. Humanity should have evolved from making decisions based on emotions. Sadly it has not
It's rather difficult to discern when you are earnest or when you are regaling the readers with your sarcastic gibes. 4 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 8:12pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: You might not like it, but I have spoken nothing but the truth. All over the liberal media, there were innumerable headlines heralding the dawn f the first US woman president. Some journalists even called white men who wouldn't vote for Hillary sexist, because sexism is the only reason for not voting a woman. The infusion of feminism and gender politics was a card played by the left and it still didn't work out. You might hate my schadenfreude, but your people gave me something to work with. From CNN to the Guardian to HuffPo, the woman card was milked to the hilt, and you expect it to just fizzle away without a mocking mention? Get real. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. By the way, you don't have to quote me while you're menstruating. Obviously, it's a challenge to keep your monthly ebb of life under control and be civil at the same time. If multitasking comes difficult to you, stick to survival basics. Go and bleed in the woods. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Richy4(m): 8:15pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Never underestimate bunch of stup!d people in a group..... They can come out in droves and surprise a whole nation ....More especially the basket of deplorables...... 5 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Onegai(f): 8:15pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: Marine Le Pen is coming to "save" France from Islam. Apparently either Austria or Hungary is getting their own candidate and Germans are getting angry with Merkel over Immigation (just like the US) and are stoking up racial forment Stvpidity coupled with self-serving motive is very contagious and spreading over the western world. I didn't support Hillary because she was a woman, I grew up in the era of Margaret Thatcher and that lady will swallow and spit out Trump and Clinton without smugding her lipstick. I don't care about your gender because it is not like it qualifies you to run the Oval office. I preferred Saunders but he was a Libertarian who changed to Democrat to win. He appealed to Middle America, same ideas of trying to stimulate welfare to help them with jobs (I lived there, I understood them, my entire church voted Trump. They're racist and ignorant in a polite manner and deeply conservative). Once Saunders lost, the party fell behind Hillary and her followers and Bernie or Bust guys should have. Blacks were apathetic too: the Clintons have been demonised for years in the public eye. People even said they were juju-users and pedophiles. If I had opened a page and said I saw Hillary smoking shisha with Boko Haram leaders, even with no proof, I would be believed. It was a mistake to pick her. Hillary's one job was to make healthcare affordable because the Republicans obstructed Obama to the point of insanity. That and to keep Russia and Putin from trying to steamroll Europe (to avoid Russians focusing on their shitty corrupt country). People in Estonia, Poland and small countries are genuinely worried that Trump is pally with Putin and won't save them. Iran will rack upore nukes quietly and Saudi will be eyeing them openly. South Korea is worried now and Canada and Mexico have sworn to punish USA for any economic infractions. China is laughing themselves off, so are a lot of Arab states, calling it the imploding of the West. And Trump cannot bring the jobs back, it will be too expensive to produce in America so they will have to buy American-made out of loyalty and any manufacturer is going automation so they will still lose the jobs short term because it is cheaper to use AI and tech than to pay a human. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Onegai(f): 8:32pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
KillerPriest: You clearly haven't been paying attention. Nigerians are calling it the will of God and praising the Lord and thanking God fo Trump. Their favourite white pastors endorsed him so that was enough. Buhari has already booked service and Mass with Oyedepo, Adeboye and Mbaka, armed with his PR crew, so he too will win re-election. Give the masses bread and circus or religion and watch your approval rating soar. 2 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 8:34pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: Made up these Obama comments? “To the guys out there, I want to be honest,” Obama told a crowd in Columbus, Ohio , at a Clinton campaign event. “You know, there’s a reason we haven’t had a woman president before.” “I want every man out there who’s voting to kinda look inside yourself and ask yourself, if you’re having problems with this stuff, how much of it is that we’re just not used to it?” he said. “When a guy is ambitious and out in the public arena and working hard, well that’s okay. But when a woman suddenly does it, suddenly you’re all like, well, why’s she doing that?” http://www.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58191a3fe4b07c97c1c53435 or did I make this one up too? As it becomes more possible that Hillary Clinton could well be our first female president, sexism in the United States is made apparent to me in ways it never was before. The majority of the men in my life — as friends and family — are straight, socially liberal, white males, and all say they are at least pro women’s equality if they are not willing/able to identify themselves as feminists. But every straight white man I know is either supporting Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. None are supporting Hillary. And therein lies the sexist rub: I could produce nothing less than fifty independent links with innuendo and outright accusation stating any man who doesn't vote is a closet misogynist. I mean, this is madness. Feel free to google it yourself. 3 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by KillerPriest: 8:34pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: That and the fact that the Americans had some major trust issues with Hilary. Her usage of a private mail as secretary of state and the other controversies that gave rise to a wave of misgivings. ... It's rather obvious that sexism also had a hand in deciding the swing of the pendulum. Why have people chosen to downplay its influence? Men who would not for the life of them vote a woman, black women who would never vote a white woman, right-winged white women who believe women have no business doing ‘the jobs of men’.
I am curious as well. America is fifty shades of fücked up. The whole world knows that, and the era of their domination is approaching its terminal point.
Let's wait and see. 2 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:38pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Onegai: Finally, a person on this forum who has presented a thorough political analysis, unlike some others. I am not a fan of Putin but I reject Hillary's stance on Russia as well. This anti-Russia rhetoric is not bridge building but dangerous and destructive and the demonization of Russia is one-sided, myopic and unfair. As for Trump, he must deliver now. If he delivers, I will be happy for the American people. If he doesn't, I will be most gleeful. |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: Have you seen me anywhere say that women must vote for women? Take your rejection issues elsewhere, all of you Omega males here forming Alpha. 8 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:42pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: Like I said, I can't help you with your rejection issues. |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by KillerPriest: 8:45pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Onegai: Arggg, your comments are hardly ever clear or straightforward. At least I understand this one. 1 Like |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:47pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
KillerPriest: Majority of people voted for Hillary (popular vote). I am curious as well. We will see how it plays out. America is nothing but a joke now. 1 Like |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 8:49pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Onegai: People's intelligence should be tested before they are allowed to cast a vote. 1 Like |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 8:50pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: Neither cam I help with your mental issues. You asked if I was making stuff up, I pointed you to the source of my information. You see yourself beaten and now you are deflecting. Tell your principals to stop playing identity politics, it helps nobody. 8 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Caveatemptor(m): 8:57pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
I learnt that most journalists conducting polls are liars and were secretly supporting Hillary Clinton,and were putting out fake polls in order to turn voters against Donald Trump. I also learnt that one should never listen or believe what people who have their own hidden agenda tell you about yourself. Chase your dreams and aim for the stars,because you might touch the sky. Congratulations Mr Trump. The American people have spoken! 9 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 9:01pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Baba, abeg leave these jokers. They are only crying more than the bereaved. One can only look at them with pity. People know what they want and they should know when they've been sold a fake, but not so the follow-follow crew. They must be the fly that follows the corpse into the grave. |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 9:11pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: I do not see myself beaten, I am bored with your obsessing over feminism. You could have as well chosen to discuss racism here but no, the rejection you have suffered makes you come and be a woman warrior. Take your issues elsewhere. 10 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 9:22pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: The cause and existence of your boredom is irrelevant. Say something that has some meaning. But if you're too foolish to see where I addressed racism in this thread is that my fault? I'm not the cause of your comprehension issues na. It's so okay to move on from my posts if they rib you the wrong way. Believe me, you'd be a happier human. I don't remember when last I quoted a comment you made if it wasn't a response to a comment of mine, even when you propagate your foolishness like pollen. I've decided on a new policy to let ediots wallow in their idiocy. Doesn't make me leaner or fatter anyway. So, little batty girl, you can stick to topic or you can look for tingles I won't give you tonight. 11 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 9:29pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: You appeared on my mentions last week when you were bragging that you would like to get down with me. So much for unfulfilled sexual desires. And today you are speaking of schadenfreude because a sexist pig was elected president, not by the majority of Americans - FOR YOUR INFORMATION - but by electoral vote even though the same man is a racist. You must be insanely dvmb to even speak of schadenfreude as a black man. Can you now see how rejection has fvcked you up psychologically? You are still here shouting feminism when a racist has nuclear weapons at his fingertips. A new mental disease should be named after you. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by missjo(f): 9:35pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness:They are having fun,its expected. Your friend crackhaus would also be here posting his Donald Trump gifs if and when he sees this This win by Donald Trump is something that'll make any man who likes to speak his mind, really happy. 8 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Onegai(f): 9:37pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
KillerPriest: Fayose is the only person in govt exchanging words with Buhari. He even went on to attack the First lady. He postured with a trip to China after Buhari went, to do nothing. He goes around cutting kpomo, eating roast corn, sharing rice and live chickens instead of creating a good economic and educational environment. He does not speak too much grammar like he attended university. He is willing to invite bankers to his house and surprise them with a camera crew and create a spectacle. He passed the anti-grazing law in his state. If he presents himself as a Presidential candidate in Nigeria, he will be a Trump and win in a landslide. All he needs is an Igbo running mate or a Donald Duke as VP. 2 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 9:39pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: Friendly banter, nothing more. You can only speculate about my sexual satisfaction . I could be sex-starved or I could have just had a very wonderful blowjobb, and you'd be none the wiser. I certainly, would rather talk about Bukatyne's epiphany tonight, if you don't mind. Call Trump the devil and it doesn't retract his mandate. I am pleased he won, if for nothing but for hope for the culture wars. I know you're still hurting, but you will be fine, I promise. I don't know if Trump is racist, but if he is Hillary would qualify as one too, I mean, she's responsible for calling African American males derogatory names. I know you haven't heard this, CNN doesn't think you should bother yourself which such trivialities. Someone who said African Americans aren't as evolved as white people. Get your mouth out of CNN's backside, your breath smells like shit. Call the disorder Tumbuktouism, I would be honoured. 9 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 9:40pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
missjo: They are trying to soothe their neuroses stemming from a lot of rejection from the female folk by celebrating a racist. No man who has had a positive experience with women and enjoyed their attention and respect will ever come online and discuss feminism for ten years. Bitter beings. No pity. No mercy. And their dvmbness makes them think that Trump's victory is the result of him being sexist, so much for analytical skills. 7 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 9:44pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton and I was happy I didn't have to cast a vote in these elections. Both candidates are a joke and America is a joke now too. By the way, I am not speculating. We both know you are sex starved. It is obvious. Don't deny it. |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 9:47pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: And what is wrong with this? Is it everyone in the US who is on board the gay agenda even? Wasn't one baker fined for refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple? I reserve the right to despise a racist and a homosexual. You can't tell me to hate one and then force me to love the other. . Mindfulness, if you ever enter Lagos, don't even try to move near Yaba or Oshodi or Abeokuta, na instant commission be dat. 4 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Timbuktuo: 9:49pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness: Forget about not casting a vote. If you were American you would have needed to, and you would have chosen on your convictions. C'est fini. Oh, alright, you got me, I can't even deny it any longer. To be honest, I don't even know where my peenis is anymore, haven't used it in a while. . Happy now? 4 Likes |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by Nobody: 9:53pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: When I tell you that logical reasoning is not your strength, you don't believe me. I would much rather reject a racist because it affects me than someone who supports gay rights, which does not affect me. Simple! Your hungry brain cannot comprehend it, can it? And if your dear friend Donald is such a hero of sexism and anti-feminism, why did he apologize for his sexist remarks and tell the world how much he respects women? The times where you and your likes could rule over women is over and Trump won't help you. Deal with it. 1 Like |
Re: Lessons I Learnt From 2016 US Presidental Elections: Donald Trump's Victory by missjo(f): 9:53pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Mindfulness:LOL, you're taking it too serious. This isn't about direct support for Donald Trump, but about the "oh a misogynist and racist man who is anti-gay & anti-abortion is now president of the great liberal and developed USA" IN YOUR FACE The guys are just deliberately working up a target-group of female posters here, and i'm surprised you're playing into it. 4 Likes |
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