raumdeuter:


Does Neymar have a better squad around him in Brazil with Hulk, Oscar, Fred, Jo yet he is outshining Hazard for NT

Neymar played under Dunga who is even a more defensive minded coach than Mourinho

A40:

Are you drunk or crazy? I was analyzing football when u were still shitting your pampers.

Brazilian squad were beasts? When Hazard was winning best player in the league did he do it by himself?

Highest assists - Fabregas
Highest goals - Costa

But you village eediots would make us believe Hazard is the best thing since Gizdodo

Even at Lille you had people like Gervinho and Moussa Sow contributing at a high level

raumdeuter:


Does Neymar have a better squad around him in Brazil with Hulk, Oscar, Fred, Jo yet he is outshining Hazard for NT

Neymar played under Dunga who is even a more defensive minded coach than Mourinho

hensben:
Bastar.d I rate hazard base on individual skills and he's a world class foootballer. G.OAT go lick dayo's balls that is what you are good at. Old F.ool that still analyze football with sentiment and hatred.

raumdeuter:
Kingsley Coman injured in National team duties

Diademk07:

Oscar aint a shite player.. I think I already certified that Oscar plays well for his national team. Also, he was good for Chelsea in his first 2 seasons before his form took a downward turn however, he still plays well for his national team.
Hulk is a decent player as well. Furthermore, only one of Fred/jo takes the striker role, not both at the same time. And It's not like these players didn't score when they were required to, unlike Lukaku who missed countless of chances at the euros.

hensben:
Oscar always play well for Brazil same with others you mentioned. Jo and Fred don't start game same time.

hensben:
Oscar always play well for Brazil same with others you mentioned. Jo and Fred don't start game same time.

A40:

Out for 2 months
Seems Vidal is also injured

raumdeuter:


Carasco and Hazard are better than any Brazilian winger not named Neymer
Debruyne is better than all AM Brazil has
Lukaku is better than Fred and Jo combined

So a front 4 will be

Belgian(Carasco/Hazard)---Belgian(KDB)-- Brazilian(Neymar)
-----------------------------Belgian(Lukaku)

Which of these do you disagree with

raumdeuter:


Carasco and Hazard are better than any Brazilian winger not named Neymer
Debruyne is better than all AM Brazil has
Lukaku is better than Fred and Jo combined

So a front 4 will be

Belgian(Carasco/Hazard)---Belgian(KDB)-- Brazilian(Neymar)
-----------------------------Belgian(Lukaku)

Which of these do you disagree with

A40:

Hahaha when your stewpid analysis is exposed that is when you start talking about Dayo. What a phoolish sodomite.

Nobody cares how you rate Hazard so phuck off and stop comparing him to players that are far better than him. Stop giving smelly excuses

Neymar is better than Hazard and would be better even if he played in South Sudan

hensben:
You analyses football like amateur. See, in football world it doesn't work that way. In football, there is a difderence between been a talented player and at same time having a strong mentality, Belgian players lack the later bar Hazard and KDB. Brazil might not have those quality players they had in the past(which is making people like you to think they are average and Belgium parade quality players than them) but they still got that strong character and hunger which will make them to defeat this current Belgium players. Brazil have integrity to protect hence the hunger and drive in every game unlike Belgium who still have underdog mentality. Smh4u

raumdeuter:


[s]You mean Neymar is able to carry less talented players and Hidden cannot do the same with more talented players and Hazard is actually the one letting the team down

Last week you all were arguing Belgium dowsnt have more quality now its turned into character and hunger, Hunger ko starvation ni[/s]

Diademk07:
The thing is all these Brazilian players did their job unlike Lukaku and KDB. It's not just by quality.. Whenever Jo/Fred were called upon, they ceased their chance and scored goals unlike a certain Lukaku who miSsed countless of chances.. Same with Oscar who did all his best in the middle of park for brazil unlike KDB who forgot his first touch at home and couldn't even help in the defensive aspect.

That said, you should also know the midfield and fullbacks contributes a lot to a team's attacking display. You as a Bayern fan knows what Lahm and Alaba contributes to the team, so are Madrid fans aware of Marcelo's contribution and Barcas of Alves etc. However, Belgium not only has average fullbacks but also, average midfield except for Dembele who's quite injury prone and was out of favour with Wimot who prefers Fellaini!.

hensben:
He got it all wrong again. Be logical for once. Brazil are always talented when it comes to football but their past crop of players are making people like you to think this curent players are less talented than current Belgian players. All I am saying is that, in football, Brazil performance expectation are always high due to what they have done in the past hence the bashing of current crop of players.

raumdeuter:


Fred and Jo really did their job. They seized their chances and scored an incredible 1 goal between themselves in 7 games. What an incredible job they are doing no wonder Both Jo, Fred are in top clubs and people are battling for their signature

raumdeuter:


So you are agreeing that this set are less talented than belgium where you not there when other posters on the Chelsea thread disagreed few days ago?

Brazil expectation can be high all they want its still the quality of players they have currently makes the teammates Neymar has to work with is inferior to what Hazard has to work with Yet Neymar delivers with limited resources while Hazard fails miserably

Diademk07:


Fred scored 5 goals at the confederation cup. He was joint highest goal scorers at the tourny and he scored a goal at the worldcup. How many goals did Lukaku score at the worldcup?

You are still trying to circumvent your way around the fact that Brazil had better fullbacks and midfield than Belgium though..

hensben:
You can't even read and comprehend. Smh. I said people like you think Brazilian players are less talented than Belgian players which is not true.

raumdeuter:


Lukaku scored 1 goal 4 games Fred scored 1 goal in 6 games.

How is a midfield of Gustavo and Paulinho better than a midfield of Dembele and Witsel?

Diademk07:
Nope, that midfield had Fellaini and Witsel!
Whereas Brazil had Gustavo and Paulinho with Fernandinho featuring in so many appearances as well..

Another fact is Brazil had Alves and Marcelo as fullbacks whereas the Belgium side had 4 CBs!

raumdeuter:


It was Dembele Witsel who started until Dembele started having fitness issues

In the group games, Fernandinho only played 45mins,

And what does playing with 4 CB affect? Germany won the world cup

Out of 7 games they started 4 games with 4 CB's and did not lose a single one of those because Lahm the only Full back was played in midfield

hensben:
Kiddo go play with sand or go errand for dayo. Done with ya.

Diademk07:


Dembele only played the first game and he didn't even complete it! So why include him as Belgium midfield general. The fact that Fernandinho played more than Dembele and prominently featured in the knockout stages makes your claim funny.

At least we all know that Boateng was primarily a RB. It's just like deploying Ramos in a full back role for Spain. Not to forget that both have the pace and the vision to link up with their wingers. That's one isn't an excuse!

airmark:
I dont know why most epl rejects always find burnthisleaguedown as their last resort. Mkhitaryan, the burnthisleaguedown assists leader last season, may return to germany. Epl is too hot for him.

TRendlona:




Is EPL to hot for KDB and Gundogan? Why won't EPL be hot for him when he's under a coach that has lost all his tactical knowledge.. Generally, Man U is in shiit right now and virtually all their players have lost it.

Professorfrisky:
pkassoairmark don land.

airmark:


KDB had a stinct in epl before and couldnt cut it, and pushed to germany for training to mature. At least those players starting matches in man utd, dont have two heads, mkritayan would be starting if he measures up. In matches he played for man utd, i cant remember a significant thing he did on the pitch. The last match he played , he was so useless mou withdrew him. At 27, you should hit the ground running as a great player from a top league some took burnthisleaguedown for. I just read now asking for time , he never blamed mou's tactic. He is in a more competitive league and needs to work harder.

TRendlona:



I still don't agree sha..
Well I don't really know much about German league. Perhaps Raum and A-40 ll take it from here.

weedtaker:
and you were busy disgracing yourself, all dis "up barca" fans dem seff.

smh