Kenyanstar:


Courtesy wikipedia
80 percent of Lagos 25m population lives in slums or poor areas of towns.
Lagos poorest Slums in Population of 2006
Agege- 500,000
Ajegunle- 555,000
Amukoko- 200,000
Badia- 160,000
Bariga-190,000
Bodija- 100,000
Ijeshatedo/Itire- 170,000
Ilaje- 150,000
Iwaya- 140,000
Makoko-150,000
Mushin- 160,000
Oke-Offa Babasale- 150,000
Somolu- 120,000

Abuja Slums population
70 percent of Abuja's 1,235,880 population lives in slums or poor areas of towns.

You've only scratched the surface - there's 42 slums just within Lagos.

Henrydone:
Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

A TALE OF POOR SOUTH KOREA & RICH KENYA-1960S
I don't know why we are even arguing over whose poo is the smelliest, the entire thread was meant to show the progress if any of the 2 countries in terms of social-economic policies implemented in the last 20yrs. Let me give you a little history of Kenya and South Korea in 1960s.
In 1962 when Kenya was clamoring for self-rule from the colonial government, South Korea was facing acute starvation and the poorest Asian country at the time. In 1963 the situation for the 2 Koreas was so dire that South Korea had to go borrowing food from foreign countries as a matter of urgency. The new Kenyan leadership by then came to its assistance and gave $10,000 dollars & food rations to its then leader Park Chung-hee which was repaid 3yrs later. In 1962 the Korean leader had launched an ambitious plan by the tag "Economic development plan". The program was an ambitious 30yr blueprint of rapid social and economic push that ended up making South Korea an Asian tiger and being inducted in 1996 as part of the G20 countries.

KENYAS FALL
The Kenyan government at the time had a steady fall from grace to grass due to political upheaval and confined social-economic activities tied to political turmoil within and around neighboring countries. Thou Kenya maintained its East African superiority the raging civil wars in Uganda where there were 3 coups, Rwandas genocide, Burundi civil war, DRC civil war, Angola civil war,Somalia civil war, Sudan civil war, Ethiopa Oromo civil war & Tanzanias hostility towards EAC. This neighbouring countries that surround Kenya were all in war thus creating a foul economic reality that destabilized the Kenyan economic status to its knees.

KENYA VISION 2030
After the clamor for multi-party democracy in the 1990s the first opposition party clinched the leadership of Mwai Kibaki in 2002. He launched an ambitious "Kenya Vision 2030" Development blueprint similar to south Korea. The Kenyan government under his leadership moved to revamp the biggest infrastructure program tarmacking 10,000km of road. Within his term Kenya enacted a new constitution that devolved resources to the lower apex of the societies. The expansion of several airports to establish Kenya as the biggest air travel hub and many more.

KENYA'S FOREIGN POLICY
The Kenyan government knew the key to strengthening its economic superiority was channeled to both its internal and external policies to its neighboring countries stability. Kenya went into Somalia to dislodge Al-shabaab and install a powerful Somali led government. The current South Sudan country was successfully formed thanks to Kenyan supported peace process. Kenya has launched a visa free policy to all east african countries because of the huge diaspora foreign africans in Kenya.

naijalander:
While Kenya is going for Vision 2030 (which to me is unrealistic), Naija has her Millennium Development Goals (MDG) set for the next 1000 years from 2000. Honestly I find it insulting you think Nigerians are comfy in misery, you think its easy to administer a nation of 170m people with a background of feudal political structures, cultural and religious dogmatism and never say die attitude, think again.

Mgeni wa kujitongea let me explain something to you.
1. Vision 2030 is on track.
2. Vision 2030 is an internal initiative by kenyans to develop Kenya. The millennium development goals or MDGs are a UN blueprint for achieving devt in LDCs. They were supposed to have been achieved by 2015.Not for a millennium.
3. Vision 2030 took cognisance of the MDGs but were way more ambitious.
4. Several countries also have some form of vision 2030. http://lp.plexusnetwork.com/RPT_SAUDI_PPC_2016.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA0pDBBRCFtoPyguTh8AUSJADNWeuxrL_szy385oyBK0nT6sdVq8D-XNUZkR7Ul2sCTXqS8BoCMI7w_wcB, http://www.dubaiplan2021.ae/dubai-plan-2021/
5. Vision 2030 has its detractors. They haven't presented any alternative.
6. Where is your country's vision 2030 or remote equivalent.

Kumbuka unijibu na kiswahili kulingana na madai yako ya kuishi humu miaka kumi au zaidi.

naijalander:
-- I have tasted Changa'a. (only tasted) and it is indeed a terrible liquid to fill your stomach with.
-- Used to attend Blankets & Wine quite often
-- Also club hopped Westlands every weekend
-- Kisumu, Lamu, Nyeri (did some work in Nyeri), Mombasa, been there done that.


That should define the extent of my social integration within Kenya properly.

Hopefully you are convinced now, I do have a lot of Kenyan friends I have these kinda arguments with but you guys set a different standard on being closed minded.

If your claim is to be believed then you probably wouldnt be bad mouthing a country that has educated, fed, provided shelter, security and comfort.
You will also agree with me that what you found 10 yrs ago is a total transformation of what is their currently in Nairobi and Kenya in general.
1. Thika super highway was non existent
2. Nakuru dual carriageway
3. SGR(Standard gauge railway)
4. Dual carriageway (Northern corridor) Nairobi-Moyale-Turbi highway

Henrydone:
Your claims are dump and sick,u just fabricate them to make a point.Kenya a small landmass compared to Nigeria yet has more doubled slum than Nigeria with more people living in the slum, and some of ur country folks come here to claim socio-economic development.Until those socio-economic start affecting the life of majority kenyans blokes stuck up in slum, and kenya one of the smallest country in africa stop having the biggest slum in the world then i will be convince all ur claims are not chinery titivation aimed to gimmick the gullibles.

At least Nairalander makes some points, this dude here is the perfect definition of baffoon based on the idiocy he spews here - he can say anything. I told you 80% of Ibadan is a slum while in Kenya cities like Nakuru are almost slumless.

naijalander:
Very well noted.

Please don't get me wrong. I love and respect how accommodating and liberal Kenya society is, what I do not love and respect is using said qualities to demean a densely populated, horribly administered yet promising society and conservative society for the sake of continental relevance. Kenya is a part of Africa, Nigeria is also a part of Africa, Africa is a complete shithole so why compare my shithole with yours?

Stop playing victim buddy............all Kenyans on this thread are here because we are tired of ignorant Nigerians demeaning Kenya on this forum.

I can't shout

NairobiWalker:


Stop playing victim buddy............all Kenyans on this thread are here because we are tired of ignorant Nigerians demeaning Kenya on this forum.

Am a Nigerian but Kenya government are doing better than Nigerian but even so the level of development in Kenya can reach Nigeria

Guys can we settle on an agreement, please. I see good on both sides. Kenyans are savvy, dedicated, intelligent, innately hospitable.

Nigerians are great womanizers.

Depending on whether you live in Lagos or Nairobi, these traits are highly useful.
On a more serious note, Nigerians need to pipe down with the "big boy" talk, I don't know if it's nostalgia from the good old days that they're bitter about, so they're immediately resentful to the new kid on the block, or they just downright hate us, nor do I care. I don't want to see anymore posts calling our angels easy. I don't want to see anymore posts calling us idiots, we'll stand up to you every time.

NairobiWalker:


Nakuru......

Meanwhile Calabar is far more serene

CALABAR

Oxtonguy:
Am a Nigerian but Kenya government are doing better than Nigerian but even so the level of development in Kenya can reach Nigeria

. Port-harcourt only Nairobi can match in terms of serenity and infrastructural development

Port-harcourt

Does Nairobi has uninterrupted power supply
No is the answer it only has minimal power outage,Bonny island has uninterrupted power supply for the past decades.

Bonny city

KenyaMan111:
Guys can we settle on an agreement, please. I see good on both sides. Kenyans are savvy, dedicated, intelligent, innately hospitable.

Nigerians are great womanizers.

Depending on whether you live in Lagos or Nairobi, these traits are highly useful.
On a more serious note, Nigerians need to pipe down with the "big boy" talk, I don't know if it's nostalgia from the good old days that they're bitter about, so they're immediately resentful to the new kid on the block, or they just downright hate us, nor do I care. I don't want to see anymore posts calling our angels easy. I don't want to see anymore posts calling us idiots, and expect us to watch carelessly.

Behaviour are personality of individual not nationality,so don't be biased

Lamu can't match
Ikot ekpene

NairobiWalker:


At least Nairalander makes some points, this dude here is the perfect definition of baffoon based on the idiocy he spews here - he can say anything. I told you 80% of Ibadan is a slum while in Kenya cities like Nakuru are almost slumless.

If you claim 80% of Ibadan are slum obviously you're biased,clueless and unreasonable what you term slum just old buildings with good road network,infact the Nairobi that I know is 9% international presentable 20% emerging and remaining are slums.just brown roofs don't denote slum

So this now a slum

Bifwoli:
You've only scratched the surface - there's 42 slums just within Lagos.

You are a big liar

Eko Atlantic close to completion

Eko pearl in Eko Atlantic completed taller than UAP tower Nairobi

Lagos the 30th best city in the world, Nairobi don't list.Am new on nairaland don't know how to link I will appreciate if any of you can put me through.

Here is a screenshot

Oxtonguy:
. Port-harcourt only Nairobi can match in terms of serenity and infrastructural development

Port-harcourt

Nairobi is waaaaay developed the PH. Do not try to lie. And do not lie that u have been to Nairobi.

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Oxtonguy:
Eko Atlantic close to completion

Not close......

Oxtonguy:
If you claim 80% of Ibadan are slum obviously you're biased,clueless and unreasonable what you term slum just old buildings with good road network,infact the Nairobi that I know is 9% international presentable 20% emerging and remaining are slums.just brown roofs don't denote slum

So this now a slum

Only 15% of the NAirobi region is slum, 70% well built up areas and the rest are forests and parks

Hbuyosh:
Only 15% of the NAirobi region is slum, 70% well built up areas and the rest are forests and parks

The negation of your post is what's true

https://www.nairaland.com/577908/lagos-beautiful-pics
https://www.nairaland.com/1258400/abuja-city-beautiful-pictures
https://www.nairaland.com/3092325/images-abuja-pride-nigeria

Check those out...

And about those comparison..it's not worth fighting over..USA better than Canada doesn't mean Canada is wack and population really means alot..China is still considered as a developminf country yet no country economy is growing rapidly as it and that's the same with India with besta engineers even having its own silicon valley yt it's still a developing country...Nigeria is better if u wanna use facta based on per capita,gdp,military and even education(though Nairobi university is a great school as per Africa and nigerian schools buh do you know the numbers of schools like Nairobi in Nigeria,i can count 8...oau,ui,unilag,unn,uniben,unilorin buh despite all these Kenya is a good country but not one that can best Nigeria coz those are reserved for Egypt and SA...

No fight kenyattas and Nigerians... Nairobi is quite beautiful among top 10 in Africa buh not as lag and abj..

highheybee:
https://www.nairaland.com/577908/lagos-beautiful-pics
https://www.nairaland.com/1258400/abuja-city-beautiful-pictures
https://www.nairaland.com/3092325/images-abuja-pride-nigeria

Check those out...

And about those comparison..it's not worth fighting over..USA better than Canada doesn't mean Canada is wack and population really means alot..China is still considered as a developminf country yet no country economy is growing rapidly as it and that's the same with India with besta engineers even having its own silicon valley yt it's still a developing country...Nigeria is better if u wanna use facta based on per capita,gdp,military and even education(though Nairobi university is a great school as per Africa and nigerian schools buh do you know the numbers of schools like Nairobi in Nigeria,i can count 8...oau,ui,unilag,unn,uniben,unilorin buh despite all these Kenya is a good country but not one that can best Nigeria coz those are reserved for Egypt and SA...

No fight kenyattas and Nigerians... Nairobi is quite beautiful among top 10 in Africa buh not as lag and abj..

Rubbish.
Both Lagos and Abuja do not come close to both Nairobi and Mombasa in terms of development.



Nairobi Suburbs....

More Nairobi Suburbs....

Oxtonguy:
The negation of your post is what's true

Show us your suburbs nigga, u say only 9% of Nairobi is built up, and that the rest is slums? Now those are bird's eye view images of Nairobi, showing concrete structures dominating much of the city landscape! Where are the slums?

The truth is slums occupy only 15% of Nairobi....



More suburbs!!!!!

highheybee:
https://www.nairaland.com/577908/lagos-beautiful-pics
https://www.nairaland.com/1258400/abuja-city-beautiful-pictures
https://www.nairaland.com/3092325/images-abuja-pride-nigeria

Check those out...

One of the threads that has recieved the most views on NL....it's about Nairobi!

Mombasa, the city where the ancient and modern architecture have converged

Hbuyosh:
Rubbish.
Both Lagos and Abuja do not come close to both Nairobi and Mombasa in terms of development.



Nairobi Suburbs....

Last I checked rankings of Africa most beautiful cities Lagos and Abuja are still ranked above Nairobi and also
Lag GDP and per capita is even more than Kenya as a whole

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