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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 8:25am On Nov 15, 2016 |
A team get wallop 8-0 and you call that exposure, the Npfl all stars playing malaga, Atl Madrid is what I term exposure, you expose them to their counterpart(not their seniors) outside the country, what the nff succeeded in doing was to kill the little confidence that is left in those boys after being knocked out from the U-17 qualifiers 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:54pm On Nov 15, 2016 |
zicky: It is not about the score but the chance of these young boys to play quality professionals. They learned things that will benefit them for the rest of their lives. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 3:04pm On Nov 15, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:now I get your drift, seeing the skyscrapers, nice structures, holding the shirt of solanke and seeing many white men is the exposure, but that's the duty of the ministry of tourism and not the nff. 3 Likes |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:10am On Nov 16, 2016 |
No wonder South Korea win am ooo... Lee Seung Woo, the korean messi. A lad who broke messi's la masia scoring records... Chaaiiiii... Without any research, I know who Manu refer to. He starred at Chile 2015 alongside Osimhen, C.Pulisic and K.Nwakali also. The other lad is also good too. Cant recall his name for now. Which kain exposure be this one naa?? See the bad-asses other teams had on display. Chaaiiii.. Really hope they picked "something tangible and relevant" for their young careers shaa... ....................................................................... Manu Garba Defends Poor Outing At Suwon Tournament- We Paraded Secondary School Kids Against Professionals Coach of the Nigeria The Manu Garba lead team played three games at the tournament, scoring just once while they conceded 12 goals in games against England (1-, Iran (0-1) and South Korea (0-3). However the coach is adamant that his team performed way above his expectations based on the opponents they faced at the tournament in Korea. ”We had school kids picked from grassroot teams and Academies in Nigeria up against some players of other nations, who have played in the UEFA Champions League for top teams” He told Owngoalnigeria.com. ”Against England 75% of the players we played against have all represented top clubs in the English Premier League at senior level, against Iran we missed a penalty and lost via a controversial penalty. ”In our last game against South Korea, we lost 0-3, are you aware they had two players who are close to the main team of Barcelona?, it’s a learning curve for my boys. In a year or two time Nigerians will understand better”. Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/16/manu-garba-defends-poor-outing-at-suwon-tournament-we-paraded-secondary-school-kids-against-professional/ 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by komekn(m): 1:04pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: At maybe U11 and younger results are irrelevant player development is paramount. When you get to over 12 positional and tactical appreciation has to be developed to complement personal ability. If you go to play in a match to be completely humiliated and rolled over by 8-0 score line you learn nothing. Indeed you may be completely demoralised and you may struggle collectively and individually to recover. A few years ago John Fashuna Brought an U18 Nigeria All stars team to Manchester. Expectations were high games were set up with United and City U18 teams. As a warm up, a game was arranged with a local academy with some players who were U16. After the game all stars lost 8-1. Head of recruitment from Fulham selected one player to go to his academy he was U16 Nigerian origin but from the local team. That game did tremendous damage possibly irreparable damage to our reputation. Of course games with City and United did not suffice after that. I will not go into the innuendo about over age players. If they played well and lost even 3-0, it would not have been a problem. When you lose with score lines exceeding 4/5 zero. It's a shambles you can't play any better football. 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:12pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
komekn: That is your belief. Not a concrete fact. It is better these boys made this trip than staying in Nigeria. The exposure will do them good. I bet that if your younger brother was among the players in that team, you will prefer he goes and loses 8-0 to the likes of Ovie than to stay in Nigeria whipping Academy boys. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:16pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
”In our last game against South Korea, we lost 0-3, are you aware they had two players who are close to the main team of Barcelona?, it’s a learning curve for my boys. In a year or two time Nigerians will understand better”... Coach Manu Garba. Thank you. What matters is that you guys know what you are doing. Keep up the good work. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:50pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: What if ur younger brother was Samuel Chukwueze who could have used this chance to seal a bigger move? 2 Likes |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by PietroRico(m): 3:15pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
I am a keen follower and have been a silent observer of this thread, similar age grade threads and the national team thread but I'm going to break my silence now to support thegoodjoe on this one. I'm a bit surprised nobody here seems to be getting his point. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:41pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
And who says not even one gets his point?? I do get it... But a balance in view must be struck as regards exposure. I believe the "neonate" lads will learn from this. But again, we know we were not expecting them to go out there and trump anyone. Some of Our U-20 boys still in Nigeria would have been mixed with this team to provide a fine tune of "getting exposure" and "building on exposure". PietroRico: 2 Likes |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:17pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
“Nigerian Kante” Awua Trains With Inter Milan First Team Ahead Derby Game Against AC Milan 18 year Old Nigerian midfield enforcer Theophilus Awua, who is on loan to Inter-Milan from Serie B side Spezia joined the first team in training today ahead of their weekend game against AC Milan. Awua is on a season long loan to Inter-Milan, in a deal reportedly worth €200,000 which gives the Milan based side the option of making his deal permanent in the summer for a fee in the region of €2,000000. He has been earning rare reviews for his performances for the Primavera side of the team, where he has within a space of one month blossomed into an integral part of the team. The interim coach of the first team Stefano Vecchi, who was appointed after the axing of Frank De Boer knows so well about the Nigerian, as he was his coach at the youth team before making the step up to the first team early this month. However this is not the first time he is training with the first team but he is yet to make his first team bow, and this could be linked to the fact that several first team players are away with their various national teams. Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/16/nigerian-kante-awua-trains-with-inter-milan-first-team-ahead-derby-game-against-ac-milan/ 2 Likes |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:36pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
Alaves, Sporting Lisbon, Braga, Vitoria Setubal To Scout The Next Iheanacho, Iwobi, Etebo In Uyo Etebo in Rio with Akpeyi Uyo will be agog as a top scout with Deportivo Alaves of Spain, Perez Lopez Raul leads representatives of other top European clubs to the state for the Ultimate Cup Championship holding from November 29 to December 5, 2016. The event which will be rounded up with an award night billed for December 5 at Le Meridien hotel and Golf course is a top competition involving 11 invited football academies from Benin Republic and across the country. Other European club representatives that have confirmed their coming are Sporting Lisbon, Braga, FC Stockholm and Vitoria Setubal. A Portuguese football legend Mauro De Brito Santos Pouliquerio on Wednesday also confirmed to our reporter that he will be in Nigeria for the event. “I am representing two Clubs from Portugal, but will not disclose their names until I arrive Nigeria. There are certain documentations that we are working on, which must be sorted out before I make it public,” Mauro said. “I am in touch with others and the two guys from Spain, one of them is Williams Ajuwa. “He has assured me that every arrangement is in place, and we know Nigeria youths play good football so we have no problems at all with the arrangements.” Meanwhile, the International office of the Ultimate Cup in Denmark revealed that their officials led by the president, Dr Sammy Etuk are already in Nigeria preparatory to the tourney. The Local Organising Committee, LOC coordinator, Dr David Thompson said they were ready for the event assuring that it would be hitch free. Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=21096 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by komekn(m): 7:22pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: When you bring into this discourse the "Nigeria Factor" you bring a new dimension. I really stand by my earlier submission. I have spent quite some time admittedly with English football clubs and academies. But none with any Nigerian club or academy. So I admit a handicap in understanding completely the Nigerian factors. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: Samuel Chukwueze has more exposure than these boys. These boys have zero exposure. The NFF made the right choice and I doff my hat to them. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: By the way, this answer is even off the point I raised. I have repeated that this tournament is an opportunity to give our young players exposure and some of you said it will damage them instead of educating them. I am asking if your younger brother was among this kids, will you think it is wrong for the NFF to carry him to play against players like Ovie and stay in Nigeria playing academy boys. Most will say going abroad and playing is better. That means the NFF made the right choice. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:15pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
PietroRico: Even after Manu Garba explained that two years from now, people will understand. Imagine the level Nigeria is operating on. We are preparing for a tournament two years from now by making our teenage players play against Pros. Some close to Barcelona. This is genius from the NFF and I am baffled that this is not welcomed. Kudos to the NFF. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:19pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: That mixing will mean not giving some of the scouted players exposure. This boys are not going to the U17 World Cup. This was a good opportunity to expose the scouted players. Manu Garba now has an archive of scenarios to educate these players. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:41pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: What exposure all his mates were there, this was a chance to continue the progress. Why didn't south korea play their u17? U keep shouting progress and not wasting work we have done but if we mess the class of 2015 up even God won't forgive us. That team was more than just Osimhen and Nwakali. We had a chance to show the world we are still relevant in youth football and we blew it. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:56pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Honestly ur question was out of order, who wouldn't want their brother playing for Nigeria? I won't even consider Nigeria for another thing like this, i would be very angry if i were England. U don't bring kids to play with men. Ovie just played in the premier league. Would u be happy if England used their u21 to play our national team? This was a chance to get all our young talent in one place, i hope Rohr gets more involved in this because it is becoming a mess, we are just depending on luck to build our players. They should be playing on their breaks like their mates. We can't have them idle until they get called to the SE. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:02pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: This is not luck. This is foresight. City U19 plays the U23 League. The City heads feel the boys will gain playing against Older players. The truth is, you will value your 16 years brother going to Korea and his team losing 8-0 than to play academy football within that time frame. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 9:36am On Nov 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I will value my brother of any age going to Korea and his team losing 8-0, so that point holds no water,cos its still same exposure boys of U13, U17, U18 or U19 will gain, but the question is who will it benefit more. In all, what we are saying is that the right thing should be done 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:41am On Nov 17, 2016 |
zicky: NFF used this tournament to expose the players who went through rigorous screening process. You know this tourney will benefit them. So what is the problem? Benefit more? We hope NFF has plans for Amunike's boys too. However, let us stop painting a brilliant move bad. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by komekn(m): 9:55am On Nov 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: If you are saying that all the players in the Manchester city U23 team are under U19 you are entirely wrong. The U23 League consists of players across a number of age groups from as low as 16 to over age players above 23. Danny Ings is 24 and Sakho is 26 both in Liverpool fc U23's. In Scotland Celtic in particular Dembele the 13 yr old has played for the U21 team. The issue is talent exceptional talent is often not restricted by age. It's often said if you are good enough you are old enough. In this regard if those boys were good enough they are old enough. However, if they got completely rolled over, then the question arises, were they good enough No amount of exposure will make you a better player if you have not attained a certain level of football proficiency and or have any talent. The Nigerian factor has reared it's head. The question was raised if it was your brother We must remain objective and not concede to favoritism based on prejudicial sentiment. This remains a big problem in Nigeria. Finally I could easily put together an age group (true age) of Kids of Nigerian origin in the UK that would make Nigeria proud. 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:59am On Nov 17, 2016 |
komekn: Why not show me the list of the 23 years player in City U23 team? |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by joseph1013: 10:20am On Nov 17, 2016 |
zicky: You're singing to the choir, bro. thegoodjoe will not listen to you. If he has his way, U9 will play against Barcelona main team and he will still call it exposure. That's his view on this debate. Save your breath! 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 10:57am On Nov 17, 2016 |
joseph1013:I can see |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by forgiveness: 11:57am On Nov 17, 2016 |
joseph1013: Hehehehe! Very funny. 1 Like |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:59pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Even after Manu Garba's report, some people are still talking singing to the choir. If it is your brothers, Most of you agree it is a good move for his Development but yet, you guys want others to buy that it is a bad move. Please. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:01pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
joseph1013: That is like saying when the former Santos players go to train and play with the Academy children of Santos, they play no role in educating them. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:04pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
it’s a learning curve for my boys. In a year or two time Nigerians will understand better”... Coach Manu Garba Too much for some to understand. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by joseph1013: 2:11pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: You see...I said it! He doesn't mind the U9 playing the Barcelona main team in a competition. |
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:14pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
joseph1013: We are talking education. When Neymar was about nine, he trained with Old Santos players, it helped him and others grow. Iwobi as a kid used to play with Okocha. So, U16 playing pros will educate our boys. Food For thought. |
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