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Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:53pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
CoolUsername: This is why you think the analogy is flawed . Its more of a preconception . Spirituality exists outside religion . In Unitarian Universalism , the irreligious such as the deists , atheists and agnostics seek spiritual growth . |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:59pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: Actually Zeus can be referred to as a skydaddy , hopefully the earth's thermal radiation can smoke him out of his hiding . Sorry for being pedantic , I've got fastidious eyes ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 2:03pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Why do you always get yourself twisted? How can "spirituality" exist outside religion? And when does rational atheism started been seekers of spirits? All because you don't check definition of words...... "Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts , holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence ". Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the " divine ", "sacred things", " faith", a "supernatural being or supernatural beings" or "some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life" |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 2:06pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: How is your personal God different from Zeus? |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:10pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: See bro , when I argue or discuss , I see the subject matter from different perspectives at the same time . Some see the spirit , the immaterial part of man , as being part of what makes man different from sub species and that spirits are constituents of nature and has nothing to do with the supernatural . So those that those see it that way go to Unitarian Universalism to help them grow spiritually . |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:12pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: Because he does not exist in this universe , the Supreme Being's immanence makes him a Personal God - I believe the Supreme Being is immanent . 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:15pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by CoolUsername: 2:48pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:This is why I asked if you even read the link to the end. The article then goes to show why the Universe having a beginning doesn't necessarily point towards a creator. KingEbukasBlog:I don't know why you continue to insist that mind trips prove consciousness without matter when the brain itself is the originator of such experiences. http://sploid.gizmodo.com/scientists-unlock-mystery-of-woman-who-sees-herself-out-1538196076 KingEbukasBlog:What proof do you have for this? Why is there even a need for you to formulate such a being when its properties don't even make any logical sense. Omniscience and omnipotence are meaningless traits no matter how you look at it. Why would an omniscient being even want to create a Universe? It can already see every single event that would ever happen, can't it? Can you -without anthropomorphizing this entity- give a reason as to why it would create a Universe? |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:00pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Logical fallacy again. Have you tasted Omniscience, Omnipotence before to know that it is illogical to be applied to creation? Have you worn Gods shoes to know how it fits or why he even chose those shoes? Are you not glad you exist? If you are not then i am for you because without Him you would ne sitting behind your phone or computer mouthing off. Plus for every cause there is an effect right? Since you are ignorant of how the spiritual works wait till you become a member of Gods board of trustees so you can be privy to some answers. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by CoolUsername: 3:11pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Dude, until you prove spirituality beyond all reasonable doubt, I won't believe it. Nobody builds bridges or airplanes based on hearsay. Science is our most reliable way of solving problems. Once you can prove what you're saying beyond all reasonable doubt then it becomes a scientific phenomenon. The point is that, you neglected to address my questions. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:14pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Hawking stated that the laws of physics could have been involved in the universe's beginning . It wasn't stated with certitude , it was a surmise. But how did these laws start to exist in the first place ? What accounts for the presence of the laws ? The fact that people deny the existence of God is because they thought the universe could be eternal and since evidence shows that time and the universe had a beginning , they are wrong and indeed this suggests the universe has a creator, a transcendent one . CoolUsername: She induces her hallucination , in simple terms , she creates vivid images of herself alone. OBEs involve experiences which include other people , observing events as they happen outside one's body . Its like being in my house and observing what goes on in another person's house without being physically present there . CoolUsername: That's where religion or other philosophical doctrine come in . What's the purpose of my creation , why was the universe created? In deism , the universe could be seen as an evidence of God's intelligence and creativity - God may have created the universe for the purpose of exhibiting his intelligence . In Christianity , God created the universe and man for his glory . And that man can have a relationship with God , praising and exalting his name forever and ever . There other religious doctrines that tend to explain the purpose of the universe . In Nihilism which atheists subscribe to , the universe and life are purposeless and meaningless - they are seen as products of chance . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 3:19pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You see, when you're engaging a rational atheist in debate, please always remember that, word definition within the context of that discussion, is TAKEN seriously. To me and other rational atheists, man is psychosomatic. And the immaterial part called mind, is simply what the physical brain (material) does. Spirit or spiritual belongs in theistic vocabulary. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Certitude(m): 3:20pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog
i take Yahweh and FSM beg you, find a synonym to cer.titude |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:24pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: There is no such thing as rational atheists since atheism is illogical . 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:29pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Same way you neglected addressing mine on 4 attempts. You are natural while i am both natural and spiritual do you in all saneness think you and i would ever agree and again i ask you this do you assume that everything must be the way we humans want it to be? Science hasnt even conclussively been able to prove the natural world which they see and you want them to now prove God "beyond all reasonable doubt"? You should be asking yourself first how this your "beyond reasonable doubt" is even applicable when dealing with you atheists bcause you all can be as slippery as snakes when it comes to rationality. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 3:31pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: It's simply a matter of your personal belief. If you leave it at that, it's ok. But not that you know, that your God is also inherent in my experience and existence. Though Zeus is a god among the deistic group, Zeus nevertheless, shares the immaterial and personal attributes of your personal God. So they are one and the same, in their conceptual existence. Transcendency or immanence is just a concept created by the theologians, for the purpose of presenting a personal God, that can't be related with rationally. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:33pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: Then quit with your argument because Kingebukasblog is clearly on a higher level of reasoning than you are. He subcribes to the earthly as well as the divine while you subscribe to just the earthly yet you claim to be open minded and a critical thinker? Lol he calls himself a "rational" atheist! ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 3:34pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Can you please explain why: * there's no such thing as rational atheists * and why atheism is illogical |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 3:37pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: You're simply inverted in mental decency. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:37pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: See Finishing! ![]() ![]() [img]http://h6.abload.de/img/0382_s7tr.gif[/img] ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:40pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
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Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Seun(m): 3:41pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
As atheists, we should spend less time engaging in endless debates with apologists. Let's focus on people who honestly believe that God is real. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:43pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Thanks bro . I can't imagine how someone would claim to open minded and a critical thinker yet reject overwhelming evidence of the existence of the supernatural just to sustain his unbelief . Lol he calls himself a "rational" atheist! One word : delusion Lmaooo ![]() ![]() ![]() Damn ! Every single post , every single meme is so point . Fire on bro ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:44pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
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Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:44pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Seun: Seun my dear Christian Apologists are the backbone of Christianity and evangelicals. Win over an apologist and you win 100 people to your side. We are meant to be your target and not the fledgelings which you seem to think are the ones who "honestly" believe God is real. Would there be Apologists if they did not believe God is Real? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:46pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: You can't be rational if you subscribe to something so illogical as atheism . * and why atheism is illogical From Sir DeepSight : DeepSight: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:49pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Preach brother Preach ! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:50pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: You just know how to humiliate somebori its not fair at all ... haba !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 3:52pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Wetin i go do na. Seun dropped the ball bro. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Seun(m): 4:08pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Evidently. Some people just like arguing and they don't really care whether the things they are arguing for are true or not. They just love it. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 4:17pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Seun: Are you refering to me or to the other allegedly "rational" atheists who graced this thread with so much "rationality"? ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 4:50pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness:Thank God someone finally agreed that Dawkins writings swims in fallacies. Now, to try to assert that someone else is wrong is not the issue here. It's a great virtue to say, "Why! My faults are exposed. I admit I'm wrong." 1 Like |
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