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Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 5:01pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Seun:Seun 1) What's would be your definition of "honestly believe"? 2) Is there any scientific evidence backing your subtle assertion that apologists don't honestly believe that God exists? 3) If someone "honestly" believes that God exists, what productive result do you think will come out from a discussion with someone who "honestly" believes that God doesn't exist if none of them (the atheist inclusive) is unwilling to change their minds about the definition of EVIDENCE. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 5:06pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom:Why won't we be right to claim that atheism is a form of religion. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:10pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: "Dawkins writings swims in fallacies." I didn't say that, I don't even agree with most of the OPs post. I said these are things that are common on both sides of the argument. Dawkins "faults" are being exposed not mine? I have nothing to admit i'm wrong about. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:14pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: Atheism is not a religion. Religion 1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. 2. a particular system of faith and worship. Atheism is neither, it is more of a worldview. To put it simply Atheism isnt a religion like "off" isnt a TV channel. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:17pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: Your attempt at trying to point out that what dawkins says and is seen as fallacious is also what theists do clearly shows you agree that dawkins comments and writings are riddled with fallacies. You agreed with the OP directly. Now that you agreed with the OP what PDBonline expected was for you or your likes to say yes Dawkins is fallacious and we are sorry about that but rather than do that you all went on your own run of fallacies. Get it now? |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: fallacy of unwarranted assumption. You are assuming there is a spiritual to have knowledge of and also that he was created by a god. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: This same repetetive definition of atheism. You all must be reading from the same book. Atheism is a self view bro. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:20pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Not sure what you're trying to say here |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:21pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: I am not assuming! From my perspective i know so there is no fallacy from my end or have you forgotten i am a believer in God? |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:23pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Why would I be sorry or be overly concerned that Dawkins arguments are flawed (not that I think they completely are). My point is if you're saying Dawkins arguments are weak because of this, the same could be said of any theist that does the same xD |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:25pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: i wrote in english |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:27pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: There is a big difference between believing and knowing, dont confuse the two. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:28pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: not weak .....flawed! Fallacious! 1 Like |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:29pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: "These same repetetive definition of atheism. You all must be reading from the same book. Atheism is a self view bro." I can't tell what point you're making here |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:30pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: Dude a believer in God knows who GOD Is and that He is behind creation. So yes i do not believe, i know there is a difference! |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 5:45pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: 1) When they start talking about SPIRITuality then they are sending mixed signals. 2) Faith in God or a god or gods etc are VIEWS too 3) Dictionary definition changes with time. 4) Theism is different from religion. One is the believe, the other is the outward practice. Theism vs Atheism, Religious vs Irreligious. Therefore, an atheist may be religious. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 5:55pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Seun:Seun I HONESTLY believe God is real. In fact, I know He is my Father. I don't understand what you meant by "honestly believe" but I'll like you to discuss with me because , by dictionary definition, I have no doubt I do. Awaiting your response to my questions. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 5:55pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: And religion is a system of faith and worship, which gods, rules, doctrines etc. Also You just suggested atheists are irreligious and irreligious literally means not/absent of religion... |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Remilekun101: 5:58pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Sam Harris Butchers William Lane Craig in this Religion & god debate ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8czLiXQJcc |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 6:05pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Remilekun101: Hahahaha why post a video that an Atheist conveniently tagged in order to massage his bruised ego. I am sure youtube and the comments on Youtube about that video would enlighten you better. Oh FYI there are different Youtube submissions of the same video. By the way did you know that Richard Dawkins was horrified at the way William Lane Craig spanked Sam Harris that when asked to debate Willliam Craig he bailed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y4znlARl08&t=0s |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 6:06pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
LightandDarkness:I said "may be religious" Those dictionary definitions are not real definition but explanations of what exists. It doesn't necessarily cover all about religion. Religion (well, as used in the bible) is just an outward expression of faith which I consider to be a more appropriate definition. For example, if you claim their is no God or gods yet you worship yourself or some scientists or theories you can be called an irreligious atheist (your believe is incompatible with your expression). Some atheists, for example attend church services and participate in religious rituals. In the same way, if you believe there is God but don't express it in practice(for whatever reason: peer pressure, fear etc) you are an irreligious theist. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 6:37pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: One moment you appear to be intelligent, just a second after, you soak in mental somersault. What is the meaning of "overwhelming evidence of the existence of the supernatural". You could as well say overwhelming evidence of the existence of the aliens. Scientists/researchers didn't coin the phrase "overwhelming evidence", out whimps and caprices. Don't be childish please. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 6:45pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: How does this your "real God" look like? |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 6:48pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: The burden of prove is then on you. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 6:59pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You're simply soaked in clouds |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 7:05pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: You really are desperate for a victory But guess what.... ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 7:09pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom:The assumption that the real God must look somehow has no basis. He is Spirit. That's all I can manage to say. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by akintom(m): 7:13pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: Putting it to you, real God doesn't exist. It's ok by me. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 7:14pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 7:19pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom: ^^^^^^^^ Hey guys look up. What sane person would even ask this question? Man sees man but this guy wants to put man on the same pedestal as God in description. If a description of God is given now he would declare like he declared to kingebukasblog that we have our head in the clouds ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by PDBonline: 7:19pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
akintom:Ask Him to speak to you in a way you cannot disproof if you want to know whether or not He exists. If you don't want to know He exists, that's all together a different matter of self-inflicted ignorance. |
Re: The Logical Fallacies Of Richard Dawkins by Nobody: 7:24pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
PDBonline: Watch him say he was once a Pastor next. |
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