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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:18pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


The issue is that, Keshi got us to the knockout stages. How do you want quality bench? Players from Real Madrid or Barcelona?

Forget quality, The bench was terrible... Onazi came off and we collapsed... Reuben Gabriel was not prepared for a game of that intensity. Fegor Ogude would have done a better job. Let us not forget the sham of taking Gambo Muhammad to the confederations cup.

He did ok but there were some bad errors..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 10:19pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheSuperNerd, you do not get tired oooo. This work is so tasking but you just keep pushing every now and then.

To all other great forumites in here, the Ministry is moving to its permanent site because you are also moving.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Nov 17, 2016
tbaba1234:


Forget quality, The bench was terrible... Onazi came off and we collapsed... Reuben Gabriel was not prepared for a game of that intensity. Fegor Ogude would have done a better job. Let us not forget the sham of taking Gambo Muhammad to the confederations cup.

He did ok but there were some bad errors..

We should not forget Gambo but forget Keshi's team performing well against the Euro Champions and Keshi's resurgence of Mikel.

Count your blessings.

We did not have top quality talents but you guys wanted top class bench.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:33pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
You know what I mean... Reuben was not good enough quality. Even John Ogu was better than he was. Raheem Lawal was not bad either.

Have we ever had a player of Nigeria feature for Real Madrid?

Fact is our bench was no good.


Fact is that, there were challenges we faced. Not having much time but I will give you a scenario. When it was time to bring in Azeez, I screamed. Keshi should not bring Azeez in, They will KILL him.

Not long, Mikel looked towards the bench and screamed at Keshi that he should not bring in Azeez. That was when Keshi opted to send in Reuben.

Sometimes, a coach makes choices of players for tactical variations. When Reuben started, he did not get up to speed with he game. Towards the end of the game, he stopped two dangerous attacks with brilliant tackles. Unfortunately, moments like that do not stick to people but the early weaknesses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:34pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:

If that's the case Etebo too should be dropped from the team, going by your standard.


Portugal league is in the top 10 European league na. grin

E still dey for line na.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:36pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


We should not forget Gambo but forget Keshi's team performing well against the World Champions and Keshi's resurgence of Mikel.

Count your blessings.

We did not have top quality talents but you guys want top class bench.

We missed a chance to actually beat spain that day but there were no decent replacements.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:36pm On Nov 17, 2016
goldfish80:

Seriously, am still perplexed till date why anyone would think Salisu Yusuf was the man who will dig us out from where we were.
Funny enough Guru Maharaji went with the flow and predicted that a foreign coach will not achieve anything with the SE.
He specially pointed at the flavour of the month, Salisu to lead us to the promised land.

Salisu himself started believing his own hype. Stating categorically he will not assist a foreign manager if the Nff don't consider him for the job.

Thank goodness the Nff stuck to their guns.
Those of us who believed the super eagles needed a foreign manager have been vindicated.
Congratulations to us all.


Hehehehe! We dey here. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 10:40pm On Nov 17, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


This guy again. So,Nigeria doesn't invite players in second division to U20 and U23? You say some VERY strange things...smh
No he sees strange things too.

gringrin Laff wan kill me


Let me just open up a bit.
Any time I read Sir Forgiveness' comments, I just feel he has some group of persons in his mind to attack.

Am so sorry, but that's how I feel.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:40pm On Nov 17, 2016
Oga Terzurum5... This is not me being modest but being honest...

It's thanks to you guys. You guys started it on NL, the likes of Jospeh1013, Orkpekyandega and You too and ofcourse the likes CFCman in women's soccer...... Me? I just picked up. Wasnt it just last year I joined? Oh yes.. It was, in May.

I Love the great potentials Nigerian football have commanded over the years and will still command going forward...... NL Sports is one of the most visited sports sites (if not the no.1) on the web as regards Nigerian football at all levels.

You all rock! So It's you that must be commended not me... NL gave me a chance to mingle with great minds like Sir TheGoodJoe (my finest and most favorite analyst on NL), Madam (Miss) Safarigirl (the most witty one I know on NL sports.. When I came newly, she was "lord" of the epistles... Looll), Sir Joseph1013 (his threads always make sense... Love his passion for our national teams), Sir Icon4s (His Experience too much), Sir BascoVanVeli (very smart and loves to play the devil's advocate sometimes.. Looll), Sirs AIG07 & Mikron (Twin Eagles fans... Looll), Madam Confun (always observing, rarely commenting, and never misses a page... Loollll), Sir Tbaba1234 (the legendary one), Sirs Blackalbino06, Terzurum5, Orkpekyandega and even Justiz5 (all are Super OPs who bring out time outta their busy schedule to keep us all updated... I learnt from their works) and all others I just cant mention for time's sake...... (Unless una no want make I finish this post)...

So plsss... I havent forgotten how I walked in here on May 23rd into the 2015 U-20 WC thread for New Zealand 2015..... The names mentioned are the ones I have grown to know and super-appreciate since May/June 2015..... All others not mentioned plsss... U all rock too...

So plsss... Shall we move on now? We got a new super golden generation to keep building strong.... smiley

terzurum5:
TheSuperNerd, you do not get tired oooo. This work is so tasking but you just keep pushing every now and then.

To all other great forumites in here, the Ministry is moving to its permanent site because you are also moving.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:40pm On Nov 17, 2016
tbaba1234:


We missed a chance to actually beat spain that day but there were no decent replacements.

But, the blessing was, we gave the best team in the World, the European Champions a fight. One of the best displays of the competition.

We can not overwrite that with no quality replacements. We did not have talents in quality European clubs.

The Oliseh that criticised repeatedly came in and started calling players that were not in top clubs.

Keshi achieved under very challenging situations.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:40pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:

Now is the best determined by the Club one plays or what the player in question has to offer

If the player has something to offer, they will not escape the vultures(scouts) who are ready to introduce dem to bigger clubs. You see. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:43pm On Nov 17, 2016
Sir GoodJoe.... smiley

You and I know our bench was "palasa-quality"

You can imagine... Azeez, Reuben... Kaaaiiii... We missed a chance to make the WC Quarters for the first time. If only we had a good bench...


TheGoodJoe:


Fact is that, there were challenges we faced. Not having much time but I will give you a scenario. When it was time to bring in Azeez, I screamed. Keshi should not bring Azeez in, They will KILL him.

Not long, Mikel looked towards the bench and screamed at Keshi that he should not bring in Azeez. That was when Keshi opted to send in Reuben.

Sometimes, a coach makes choices of players for tactical variations. When Reuben started, he did not get up to speed with he game. Towards the end of the game, he stopped two dangerous attacks with brilliant tackles. Unfortunately, moments like that do not stick to people but the early weaknesses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:45pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:




If your Ajagun and all those players you have been clamouring for their callup are good enough, they should be in france too. Abi no be soo

grin Ajagun own still better, he plays near France. grin

Netherland still better pass Cypriot league na. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:46pm On Nov 17, 2016
Plssss... I dont even wanna talk about Oliseh... His own was the worst. Sir Icon4s have already highlighted some...

Igboun as our no.10... Chaaiiiii... (I know about his Churchill oliseh academy links)

Onobi for Mikel... rubbish!!!

Oliseh's was the worst.

TheGoodJoe:


But, the blessing was, we gave the best team in the World, the European Champions a fight. One of the best displays of the competition.

We can not overwrite that with no quality replacements. We did not have talents in quality European clubs.

The Oliseh that criticised repeatedly came in and started calling players that were not in top clubs.

Keshi achieved under very challenging situations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:48pm On Nov 17, 2016
Icon4s:


At times i wonder how forgiveness analyses his football. undecided


grin You wonder? grin

Ok na, we should allow players from Afghanistan to wear the National team Jersey, maybe then you will understand. grin

No more double standard.

Play in top league or forget national team. Simple thing. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:49pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Sir GoodJoe.... smiley

You and I know our bench was "palasa-quality"

You can imagine... Azeez, Reuben... Kaaaiiii... We missed a chance to make the WC Quarters for the first time. If only we had a good bench...



Let our players keep breaking into top clubs and teams will shiver when they see our bench. Let alone our starting line-up. We need to throw all to support for Rohr because he has a big task ahead of him. I will not lie, we have talent overload.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 10:55pm On Nov 17, 2016
forgiveness:


If the player has something to offer, they will not escape the vultures(scouts) who are ready to introduce dem to bigger clubs. You see. grin
You see some players are not that favoured to have very good agents. So it may not be that easy for them to get good Clubs.
However, as far as they have got quality services to offer, I believe they should not be ignored.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:55pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:

He fails to understand that at times you have to harmonize or compromize standards/rules with reality to achieve some set goals.
Going by his analysis players like Etebo, Azubuike, Kayode, Adi should not be given a look in.
I doubt if a player like Kayode will not bang in goals with several callups which Ighalo and Ideye have enjoyed.

If no bi Ighalo and Ideye wey dey fall hand who go even think of Kayode and Adi?

They gave reason to look for better strikers and you look around, Kayode and Adi are doing very well.

So, they deserve it.

Etebor dey play for better league na but I never wan hear Azubuike for now. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:57pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:

You see some players are not that favooured to have very good agents. So it may not be that easy for them to get good Clubs.
However, as far as they have got quality services to offer, I believe they should not be ignored.

If you play well, you will be noticed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 10:58pm On Nov 17, 2016
forgiveness:


If no bi Ighalo and Ideye wey dey fall hand who go even think of Kayode and Adi?

They gave reason to look for better strikers and you look around, Kayode and Adi are doing very well.

So, they deserve it.

Etebor dey play for better league na but I never wan hear Azubuike for now. grin
Where you not impressed by his display at the Olympics?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:58pm On Nov 17, 2016
Now in this you are right.... smiley

Just check out that bench against Algeria this past weekend:

Ighalo, Ideye, Ndidi, Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa (Started at WC 2014), John Ogu, Shehu Abdullahi, Musa Mohammed, Uche Agbo...... Chaaiiiii... **smiles**

..................

Missing in action: Ikeme, Isaac Success... Etc

Still to cap: Otigba, Awaziem, Idowu, Iorfa Jnr, Ebuehi, Obinna Nwobodo, Ejaria, Osimhen, Azubuike Okechukwu, Etc... Etc... Etc...

Others to emerge: K.Nwakali, Chidi Nwakali, Musa Yahaya, Etc... Etc...


Abeg... I no fit shout! grin

TheGoodJoe:


Let our players keep breaking into top clubs and teams will shiver when they see our bench. Let alone our starting line-up. We need to throw all our support for Rohr because he has a big task ahead of him. I will not lie, we have talent overload.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:02pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:

Where you not impressed by his display at the Olympics?

Of course, he was privileged to be there to shine but he should work harder to draw the attention of Nigerian fans.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 11:11pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Ejaria is very promising but I do not think he is ready to break into the Liverpool Starting Eleven. Kevin Stewart was the breakthrough star of the preseason, closely followed by Ejaria. Yet, Stewart has not broken through, let alone Ejaria. Ejaria is a promising star but needs time to break in.
You mean ''he is not there yet''?
gringrin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:18pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Fact is that, there were challenges we faced. Not having much time but I will give you a scenario. When it was time to bring in Azeez, I screamed. Keshi should not bring Azeez in, They will KILL him.

Not long, Mikel looked towards the bench and screamed at Keshi that he should not bring in Azeez. That was when Keshi opted to send in Reuben.

Sometimes, a coach makes choices of players for tactical variations. When Reuben started, he did not get up to speed with he game. Towards the end of the game, he stopped two dangerous attacks with brilliant tackles. Unfortunately, moments like that do not stick to people but the early weaknesses.

When I first saw Azeez warming up to replace Onazi, I was at peace but suddenly I saw Gabriel came in for him.

As I saw dat I no put all my mind for the game again else I develop heart attack.

Mikel though Azeez was not good enough, right. So, what was the outcome of the one he preferred.

Abi em think say to play for La Liga for 2 good years na beans?

What a great error.

Mikel didn't want to seat at the front of the back four. Humm! I see.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by FakeNEWSevryday: 11:21pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


We should not forget Gambo but forget Keshi's team performing well against the World Champions and Keshi's resurgence of Mikel.

Count your blessings.

We did not have top quality talents but you guys want top class bench.
[color=#006600] I wonder oh, even some of our players then can not qualify to be in provisional list of some country not to talk of them making it to the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:23pm On Nov 17, 2016
forgiveness:


When I first saw Azeez warming up to replace Onazi, I was at peace but suddenly I saw Gabriel came in for him.

As I saw dat I no put all my mind for the game again else I develop heart attack.

Mikel though Azeez was not good enough, right. So, what was the outcome of the one he preferred.

Abi em think say to play for La Liga for 2 good years na beans?

What a great error.

Mikel didn't want to seat at the front of the back four. Humm! I see.

It hard to do with get physical nature of the game. The game was too rough. Deschamps prepared his young men to go in hard on players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:49pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Now in this you are right.... smiley

Just check out that bench against Algeria this past weekend:

Ighalo, Ideye, Ndidi, Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa (Started at WC 2014), John Ogu, Shehu Abdullahi, Musa Mohammed, Uche Agbo...... Chaaiiiii... **smiles**

..................

Missing in action: Ikeme, Isaac Success... Etc

Still to cap: Otigba, Awaziem, Idowu, Iorfa Jnr, Ebuehi, Obinna Nwobodo, Ejaria, Osimhen, Azubuike Okechukwu, Etc... Etc... Etc...

Others to emerge: K.Nwakali, Chidi Nwakali, Musa Yahaya, Etc... Etc...


Abeg... I no fit shout! grin

lol

players 2 much abeg

everything na triple triple
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:08am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:


Of course, he was privileged to be there to shine but he should work harder to draw the attention of Nigerian fans.

He was a very important member of that team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:12am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:


grin You wonder? grin

Ok na, we should allow players from Afghanistan to wear the National team Jersey, maybe then you will understand. grin

No more double standard.

Play in top league or forget national team. Simple thing. grin

That means players like Carl Ikeme, Sonne Aluko, and Shehu Abdullahi should forget the national team abi?

Show me which player in this current Rohr's squad that plays outside Europe or Africa.

I repeat: I WONDER HOW YOU ANALYSE YOUR OWN FOOTBALL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:20am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:


Of course, he was privileged to be there to shine but he should work harder to draw the attention of Nigerian fans.

"Priviledged to be there to shine".

Mind u he was team captain before Mikel's inclusion.

Azubuike may jst b out of the national team now bc of the abundance of DMF options. When you have players like Onazi, Mikel and Ndidi. Remember also that Shehu Abdullahi is a DMF.

I wanted him to be at the next U20 WC. His game level is way above his age. People often forget he is just 19.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 6:20am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:


Ejaria plays as an attacking midfielder or B2B while Yahaya also plays as an attacking midfielder or winger on both sides. Kelechi Nwakali is CMF/AM.

You are right, Ejaria is very much ahead of them.

If Yahaya is considered as a Winger then Sheyi Ojo is far ahead of him.


Kelechi Nwakali needs to come out from Dutch second division before he is even considered for U20, and not to talk of U23 or Super Eagles.

National team is not waiting for anybody to grow or a place to promote preferred players ahead of the ones who worked hard to play in top leagues in Europe.
did you forget kelechi is the captain of the flying eagle?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 6:29am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:


If no bi Ighalo and Ideye wey dey fall hand who go even think of Kayode and Adi?

They gave reason to look for better strikers and you look around, Kayode and Adi are doing very well.

So, they deserve it.


Etebor dey play for better league na but I never wan hear Azubuike for now. grin
That is the point, even though they are not in more fancied leagues.

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