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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:28am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240: I touched a nerve by equating Russian equipment to poor-man's military. ![]() Don't worry, you can continue buying your Russian and Chinese things because they suit your budget. We're not there. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:31am On Nov 20, 2016 |
ActivateKruger: We have always bought a mix of Chinese, Russian and Western equipment. It is your most unfortunate ignorance which touched my nerve. That's what i find pitiable. 8 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:37am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Mi-28 NE algerian air force ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:40am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240: You bought Russian/Chinese because you were either sanctioned by the West or you simply couldn't afford those platforms. Stop your silly justification for cheap things. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:44am On Nov 20, 2016 |
MikeCZA: So do you suggest an acquisition of a Denel modified Super Puma? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:48am On Nov 20, 2016 |
ActivateKruger: You really should think about the need to quit displaying ignorance in an international forum. I'm done with you. 10 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:50am On Nov 20, 2016 |
ActivateKruger:A Super Puma would be like modifying the Oryx offering nothing new. Maybe a local EC275. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:50am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Some seem to forget that Western countries sell their military equipment limited, downgraded with abusive conditions of control ,And use of political pressures in their markets , Even for allied big countries like Egypt ect...You can't modify a single bolt without the congress vote and permissions , and i don't talk about security of supply and ammunitions in case of war with another country close to usa , that's why some countries go for russians you get what you want and you can modify what you want , also make upgrades in other countries with no russians society , on it and the Russians are better in many field . 9 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:51am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Lagos State emergency services and police 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:52am On Nov 20, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:53am On Nov 20, 2016 |
chkil: You didn't need to explain basic common sense. 6 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:56am On Nov 20, 2016 |
South -African navy logistics ship A301 alongside a Royal Navy support ship.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:56am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240: Where's that spambot when you need it ![]() Your defence for Russian/Chinese equipment is becoming too personal.... My statements don't change, countries buy Eastern equipment because it's cheaper. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:06am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Mali The UN's most dangerous peacekeeping mission. 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:14am On Nov 20, 2016 |
algerian BMP2 during its upgrade reciving the Berezhok turret ![]() |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:18am On Nov 20, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:20am On Nov 20, 2016 |
MikeCZA: The issue is the budget or the lack of it..... I think what ever we would acquire would be more like keeping the capability than to add on it. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:23am On Nov 20, 2016 |
MINUSMA Mali Troops from Niger Republic
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:26am On Nov 20, 2016 |
chkil: We don't buy from the US, we buy from the Europeans .... Eastern Bloc weapons are inferior, it's something we debated over and over again. But of course everyone will defend his own country's purchases. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Obostone: 9:29am On Nov 20, 2016 |
africaken254:HERE IS YOUR PROOF. LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE NAME ON THE MILITARY UNIFORM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VLOtRl1JTo
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:50am On Nov 20, 2016 |
MikeCZA: That's just it Mike. For our requirements the Oryx still outperforms most of the medium helis out there, more modern though they may be. They ain't cheap, plus we'd need to extensively modify, piling on more cost. As for funding, let's take the Oryx replacement for example: we'd have to induct it gradually in any case. Currently there's no way we'd be able to put together the finance structure/mechanism for the sort of acquisition we normally do (which is best way forward btw). So if we committed to a baseline of paying for mimimum 2/annum until full strength, that'd suit our pocket all things considered. Of course we'd increase that number as and when budget cycles allow. Or we could start a budget allocation now per financial year, ring-fenced for the start of the acquisition at say 2025. And yes, along Badger lines. To conclude, my concern is 2-fold: available platforms offer no improvement as far as hot and high performance goes, burdening us with the additional cost of modification; and there doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency to what is a vital impending procurement. As for the Agusta A109, I've mentioned before that I'm a huge fan of that reliable workhorse the BK117. They were all supposed to go to the cops but the guys down in PE swear by the BK. So for the light utility, instead of the underwhelming A109, we should've upgraded from the BK117 to the EC635. 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:56am On Nov 20, 2016 |
ActivateKruger: You should have noticed I'm not a Russian /Chinese fan when it comes to military but "cheap or not" they're highly effective. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:42am On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240:What happened to our CH3? No recent videos of them in combat. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:58am On Nov 20, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacretus(m): 12:09pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240:No sir. we know where it's coming from. When the europeans have occupied your land too long sir,civilized insanity is what you get. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
Nigerian navy 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:38pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240: It's the truth though |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:47pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
chkil: No, that's usually only the US and it's usually only equipment with sensitive components. Russians don't have to worry about selling sensitive equipment because they know the Americans aren't going to bother stealing it The only thing the Russians have to keep secret is top of the range air-defence equipment ( which they hardly ever sell). 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:53pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
pacretus:The Europeans left when we became independent back in 1910! 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 1:07pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
Henry240: Beautiful pictures.... 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
patches689: Exactly, the Algerians had to fit French avionics on their Su-30s otherwise without them they're just bigger targets to hit. They then proceed in fitting their Hinds with South African avionics to make them deadly. Algeria knows that their Russian equipment would be out performed by Western systems either from Morocco or across the Mediterranean that's why they went West for the important parts. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:42pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
ActivateKruger: false , for your information algerian su-30 MKA is based on the indian su-30 MKI but MKI have israelian component that's why they change them with russian and french component , if algerian take some french avionics why did they refuse the Rafale ? ? he have the same avionics , french president came in algeria to beg for the contract and algeria refused . and now their is the Su-30 SM better then the MKI /MKA and algeria will be happy to upgrade it's MKA to SM advanced version in some years . without talking about the beast su-35 the best 4++ génération jet in the world . 9 Likes 1 Share |
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