The fela is jobless. Biafra is a noble course, for noble people.... the urchins are not needed. This thread is a testament... I'm committed to the project, and I'll work to make sure that the vermin in the Delta are ditched completely.... We will maintain purity in our bloodline.
This must be the case. He's been on this thread for almost 2 whole days now and I'm not even sure that I've seen a <1 hour interval between his posts although I may be wrong about this. Either way, this truly is the most shocking thread I've ever seen on Nairaland.
Tequilah: It has taken me over 3 hours to go through this entire thread. Whew!! All the e-bashing here is something else.
There are too many ignorant, spiteful and antagonistic folks on this thread, from both sides of the ethnic divide. Just saying.
Thank you for saying the truth. So they won't say it is only one side that was fighting.
In the subconscious part of most Nigerians reside a certain form of ethnocentrism and it takes only a little provocation to bring it out.
If there is one thing this thread has shown the current and future generations of Nigerians, which I am proud of, it is that no ethnic group should try to include another in her wishes, aspirations and discussions.
That is the receipe to Peace!
But Bros, you get time o. To read all these pages. . Na novel be this o.
mathy001: Thank you for saying the truth. So they won't say it is only one side that was fighting.
In the subconscious part of most Nigerians reside a certain form of ethnocentrism and it takes only a little provocation to bring it out.
If there is one thing this thread has shown the current and future generations of Nigerians, which I am proud of, it is that no ethnic group should try to include another in her wishes, aspirations and discussions.
That is the receipe to Peace!
But Bros, you get time o. To read all these pages. . Na novel be this o.
But we all know those who started the fight, nah! They were the ones trying to annex others into their proposed republic by force, by fire using maps; until those who were to be annexed, decided to decline the offer in no uncertain terms! Strong language was used, internet blows were landed and a free-for-all began!!
It's Biafra of the willing, not Biafra where groups in the southsouth can be forced to join Biafra. Nigeria worsens day after day, through economic hardship and, worse, Islamic militancy.
More than anything else that drives the movement for Biafra is Islamic militancy and expansionism. Igbos aren't not the only targets or victims.
All these southern people who are anti-Biafra are all targets. Northern Nigeria practices political Islam that seeks to annex and colonize the south of Nigeria and impose Islam on all.
But be they Efik, Urhobo, Ijaw, Itshekiri, Ibibio, etc in the south south that resists Biafra, they are all targets of, and have been victims of quasi Jihadists in form of the many pre-independence massacres of easterners in northern Nigeria, the 1966 pogroms in northern Nigeria, Boko Haram or cattle herds men - all attempts to spread the type of Northern Nigeria's political Islam.
Religion is opium for those who embraced it. So long as oil flows in the Nigerdelta, desert encroachment to the north constant, and the existing skewed political structure of Nigeria persists under this quasi unitary government system, there's no stopping to Jihadists storming the south of Nigeria at will. That brings economic depression and violence, both of which are catalysts to disintegration of Nigeria.
Does one need to tell the Dumbo that there's pandemonium in the market place? If the disintegration of Nigeria is violent, does any Igbo need to beg any group in the south south to join Igbo in one country to defend the peoples and territories of the Igbo and the south south?
If the Southsouth groups want to join rest of Nigeria without Biafra and obviously be scorched and Jihadized, it's their own choice. Let them be. Not even the people of the Southwest can tolerate the political Islam of Northern Nigeria. Therefore, those clamouring for Biafra are not on the wrong path. I know not much about IPOB or MASSOB, or .... but I know that Nigeria can't last.
discusant: It's Biafra of the willing, not Biafra where groups in the southsouth can be forced to join Biafra. Nigeria worsens day after day, through economic hardship and, worse, Islamic militancy.
More than anything else that drives the movement for Biafra is Islamic militancy and expansionism. Igbos aren't not the only targets or victims.
All these southern people who are anti-Biafra are all targets. Northern Nigeria practices political Islam that seeks to annex and colonize the south of Nigeria and impose Islam on all.
But be they Efik, Urhobo, Ijaw, Itshekiri, Ibibio, etc in the south south that resists Biafra, they are all targets of, and have been victims of quasi Jihadists in form of the many pre-independence massacres of easterners in northern Nigeria, the 1966 pogroms in northern Nigeria, Boko Haram or cattle herds men - all attempts to spread the type of Northern Nigeria's political Islam.
Religion is opium for those who embraced it. So long as oil flows in the Nigerdelta, desert encroachment to the north constant, and the existing skewed political structure of Nigeria persists under this quasi unitary government system, there's no stopping to Jihadists storming the south of Nigeria at will. That brings economic depression and violence, both of which are catalysts to disintegration of Nigeria.
Does one need to tell the Dumbo that there's pandemonium in the market place? If the disintegration of Nigeria is violent, does any Igbo need to beg any group in the south south to join Igbo in one country to defend the peoples and territories of the Igbo and the south south?
If the Southsouth groups want to join rest of Nigeria without Biafra and obviously be scorched and Jihadized, it's their own choice. Let them be. Not even the people of the Southwest can tolerate the political Islam of Northern Nigeria. Therefore, those clamouring for Biafra are not on the wrong path.
Na now day break for you abi.
The fight never reach you.
You wan wake am again?
Why are you calling Urhobo in your post?.
Bigot!
And no, WE DONT WANT BIAFRA. NOT NOW, NOT EVER!
If we want to leave Nigeria, we can decide for ourselves, by ourselves, and we will never consider BIAFRA AS AN OPTION.
SO STOP THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL READY FOR THIS WAR TO GO ON AD INFINITUM.
If we want to leave Nigeria, we can decide for ourselves, by ourselves, and we will never consider BIAFRA AS AN OPTION.
SO STOP THIS BECAUSE I'M STILL READY FOR THIS WAR TO GO ON AD INFINITUM.
Please spare me of your insensitivity. It's not out of bound to mention the name Urhobo. Methinks in 1967, Urhobo and Itshekiri and whatever in today's Delta state outside the Igbos of old Midwestern region were never included in Biafra.
The guy who brought this thread didn't know who and who were in Biafra but included Urhobo and Itshekiri as part of new Biafra. So you are dissipating energy for nothing.
Please spare me of your insensitivity. It's not out of bound to mention the name Urhobo. Methinks in 1967, Urhobo and Itshekiri and whatever in today's Delta state outside the Igbos of old Midwestern region were never included in Biafra.
The guy who brought this thread didn't include Urhobo and Itshekiri as part of new Biafra. So you are dissipating energy for nothing.
No I am not.
I'm sounding a clear and direct message to all proBiafrans that while I support the movement wholeheartedly, they should focus on Igbo states for now and leave Urhobo areas, as well as others, to avoid the Nigerian calamity repeat itself again in a new nation.
Until we get rid of ethnocentrism and ethnomania, we can never get along as members of different ethnic groups.
discusant: Please spare me of your insensitivity. It's not out of bound to mention the name Urhobo. Methinks in 1967, Urhobo and Itshekiri and whatever in today's Delta state outside the Igbos of old Midwestern region were never included in Biafra.
The guy who brought this thread didn't include Urhobo and Itshekiri as part of new Biafra. So you are dissipating energy for nothing.
Guy, if you read this thread from the beginning, you will see where the OP included a map of Biafra, that had Urhobo towns such as Ughelli, and Itsekiri areas like Warri, inside it. Then some chaps made uncomplimentary remarks about the Urhobo in the early pages of the thread, which caused the Urhobo to respond to them in kind.
Pls go back & read through the entire thread, to drill down to the genesis and exodus of the matter.
I'm sounding a clear and direct message to all proBiafrans that while I support the movement wholeheartedly, they should focus on Igbo states for now and leave Urhobo areas, as well as others, to avoid the Nigerian calamity repeat itself again in a new nation.
Until we get rid of ethnocentrism and ethnomania, we can never get along as members of different ethnic groups.
Bros, e do!! Please let peace reign, ehn? Biko, it is enough. Just ignore everything.
discusant: It's Biafra of the willing, not Biafra where groups in the southsouth can be forced to join Biafra. Nigeria worsens day after day, through economic hardship and, worse, Islamic militancy.
More than anything else that drives the movement for Biafra is Islamic militancy and expansionism. Igbos aren't not the only targets or victims.
All these southern people who are anti-Biafra are all targets. Northern Nigeria practices political Islam that seeks to annex and colonize the south of Nigeria and impose Islam on all.
But be they Efik, Urhobo, Ijaw, Itshekiri, Ibibio, etc in the south south that resists Biafra, they are all targets of, and have been victims of quasi Jihadists in form of the many pre-independence massacres of easterners in northern Nigeria, the 1966 pogroms in northern Nigeria, Boko Haram or cattle herds men - all attempts to spread the type of Northern Nigeria's political Islam.
Religion is opium for those who embraced it. So long as oil flows in the Nigerdelta, desert encroachment to the north constant, and the existing skewed political structure of Nigeria persists under this quasi unitary government system, there's no stopping to Jihadists storming the south of Nigeria at will. That brings economic depression and violence, both of which are catalysts to disintegration of Nigeria.
Does one need to tell the Dumbo that there's pandemonium in the market place? If the disintegration of Nigeria is violent, does any Igbo need to beg any group in the south south to join Igbo in one country to defend the peoples and territories of the Igbo and the south south?
If the Southsouth groups want to join rest of Nigeria without Biafra and obviously be scorched and Jihadized, it's their own choice. Let them be. Not even the people of the Southwest can tolerate the political Islam of Northern Nigeria. Therefore, those clamouring for Biafra are not on the wrong path. I know not much about IPOB or MASSOB, or .... but I know that Nigeria can't last.
look at you.. you are abroad,shouting nigeria is dying day and night..
ndoeyopbennet: I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I've written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igboid groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I've been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I've also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I'm not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
I won't waste time so I'll just proceed to list the issues I want to raise as well as state my arguments. Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed. Please let's set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other's excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won't be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don't expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won't go.
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I've seen comments such as "if you don't like it, go and stay in Sokoto", "all land in the South is Biafraland", etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn't Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won't get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can't deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the "heroes" of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his "oil" to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people's thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won't pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals. I hold no grudge towards anyone or any group.
I hate that stream of thought where anyone who questions the veracity of Biafra is deemed to be from Oduduwa or Arewa. It is one of the issues I raised.
Ojukwu left power for Effiong because of necessity not because it was planned so that analogy fails to hold waters with me. So far, Ndiigbo has not really done much to show their hand of friendship to other neighbouring ethnic groups. Far from it, its youths have been making enemies where there were none. A case in point is the enmity between Bini and Urohobo people with Igbos due to some of the careless statements Ipob youths make online.
Let us learn to build bridges and makes others see the beauty in our cause and fights rather than make enemies because we feel we don't need others to actualise our dreams.
look at you.. you are abroad,shouting nigeria is dying day and night..
No. Nigeria is developing, it's the most peaceful place in West Africa, it has no Jihadists, it has no Avengers, Nigeria people are not hungry, they are technology freaks, electricity and pipeborne water, the two most basic necessities which government provides to command loyalty of the people are 24/7 in Nigeria. You are happy in Nigeria, you don't care about how others feel. Kudos. Biafra secessionist groups are Nigeria's only problem. Are you satisfied?
No. Nigeria is developing, it's the most peaceful place in West Africa, it has no Jihadists, it has no Avengers, Nigeria people are not hungry, they are technology freaks, electricity and pipeborne water, the two most basic necessities which government provides to command loyalty of the people are 24/7 in Nigeria. You are happy in Nigeria, you don't care about how others feel. Kudos. Biafra secessionist groups are Nigeria's only problem. Are you satisfied?
come back to nigeria and settle down,then we can discuss.. i dont take black-men serious that are abroad licking white-puna day and night...
But we all know those who started the fight, nah! They were the ones trying to annex others into their proposed republic by force, by fire using maps; until those who were to be annexed, decided to decline the offer in no uncertain terms! Strong language was used, internet blows were landed and a free-for-all began!!
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See them bile-filled hypocrites parading aimlessly on NL just because they are too pained and bitter that the Great Igbo Nation are ever determined to have a separate existence from them.
To reduce your numerous heartaches at the mere thought of NK, IPOB or Biaf... it's time you channelled your negative energies towards consolidating OduaArewanistan or MOSUNDI.
Igbos don't need you and all you ever stand in life and hereafter.
See them bile-filled hypocrites parading aimlessly on NL just because they are too pained and bitter that the Great Igbo Nation are ever determined to have a separate existence from them.
To reduce your numerous heartaches at the mere thought of NK, IPOB or Biaf... it's time you channelled your negative energies towards consolidating OduaArewanistan or MOSUNDI.
Igbos don't need you and all you ever stand in life and hereafter.
1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre. In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government. There won't be any land use decree. IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators. You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement. And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmate each other, there have never in history been a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.
2. Why should the capital location be an issue, since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG and go build up Lagos and Abuja? It will be all province for themselves. We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.
3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation. Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature. No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.
4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language. English will remain the lingua franca. But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.
The scenario you painted of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria. Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.
Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area . So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.
5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attacks by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra. Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters. How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.
This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions. So, if you think we are hurling insults at those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning. Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple. I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.
6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president. Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Eze aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.
We are more than capable of voting non Igbos. By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.
7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?
Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.
Biafra will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box. The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support and trust.
8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids. Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused on issues occurring in distant non related lands. Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.
As for your question on utopia. Biafra will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party. It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive. The possibilities are endless. Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, as doing that will unbalance things and create chaos.
9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.
We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafra by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to form a nation.
When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.
That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.
10. Biafra is not going to be a parasitic state, so there won't be any need forcing any unwilling group into it. If an ethnic group within the proposed Biafran area votes against Biafra , then they are free to go their way. It's as free as that.
As for electoral manipulation, you can't rig where you are not popular, it will cause chaos. IPOB is too resolute and more than capable of securing the votes and ensuring no such manipulation occur. The Biafran structure will take care of Igbophobia, by first ensuring that overwhelmingly Igbophobic elements as found in Ijaw, Edo, Edoids don't become part of Biafra.
The total resource control to the provinces and decentralization of the government, that will create will a very weak centre and strong regions will eliminate the. thoughts of phantom Igbo hegemony that exist only in people's mind.
NB: I personally subscribe to an Igbo speaking only Biafra first and foremost, but not aversed to a Union of Igbo speaking people, Akwa Cross( with Andoni of course) and maybe Ogoni too.
great??..realy? una dont behave like una are great..
parrot.. i tut you were braindead...
Brainless dimw1t from an inconsequential clan of murderous hypocrites and backstabbers, no ethnic group in Nigeria has as much guts and vigour as the Great Igbo Nation to bounce back to limelight after the great massacre of her people and untold destruction meted out to them by the hating groups of conspirators. Even those who go about bragging of having a phantom empires in pre-colonial times are no force to reckon with in this present life.
Igbos had the guts to secede, not once and are still marching forward to have a separate existence from you greedy, treasury looters cum murderous parasites.
See our account as of 18...ess
"The benefits of such a mode of living are obvious. The West India planters prefer the slaves of Benin or Eboe to those of any other part of Guinea, for their hardiness, intelligence, integrity, and zeal. Those benefits are felt by us in the general healthiness of the people, and in their vigour and activity;"
"Thus we are all habituated to labour from our earliest years. Every one contributes something to the common stock; and as we are unacquainted with idleness, we have no beggars." - Oluada Equiano - A true igbo man (the first african slave to write an autobiography)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaudah_Equiano
“Before I came to Biafr*, I heard that Biafrans fought like heroes, but after my visit to Biafr*, I can tell you that Heroes fight like Biafrans.” - John de st jorre, france
THE BEST INDUSTRIAL CLUSTER IN NIGERIA "Nnewi people have already blaze the trail in the area of building the nation's economy through individual efforts, I have gone round to see the factories in the town and I can say with all sense of responsibilities that this is the best industrial cluster in Nigeria. People from other areas should come to Nnewi to learn how the industrialists here are doing it."
"For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%. In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don't forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective." - Maj. Gen Adebayo Adeyinka (rtd.) https://www.nairaland.com/3173893/open-letter-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu
"Eastern region built the Niger bridge, trans-amadi industrial layout, the university of Nigeria, presidential hotel portharcourt, presidential hotel, enugu, metropolitan hotel calabar orji-river power station, ceramics industry umuahia, golden g breweries umuahia, cement factory at nkalagu, several farm settlements, aba textile mill etc."
We will be extremely hostile to you guys. Yeye landgrabbers and greedy lots.
The Igbophobia is real here and trust me, when we go tolopia for una matter, una go tire. No Igbo man, dead or alive, can withstand the combined force of Urhobo-Isoko-Itsekiri-Ijaw.
Dem never born am.
This one nor be to make mouth. There is a reason why FG shakes when we bark.
pls Which FG r u talking about is it d same FG of nigeria that disgraced Edward clark and co,saying they should look for another country to run,that ur land belongs to dem as they r ready to salvage it ..haha...u amazes even urself...
Brainless dimw1t from an inconsequential clan of murderous hypocrites and backstabbers, no ethnic group in Nigeria has as much guts and vigour as the Great Igbo Nation to bounce back to limelight after the great massacre of her people and untold destruction meted out to them by the hating groups of conspirators. Even those who go about bragging of having a phantom empires in pre-colonial times are no force to reckon with in this present life.
Igbos had the guts to secede, not once and are still marching forward to have a separate existence from you greedy, treasury looters cum murderous parasites.
See our account as of 18...ess
"The benefits of such a mode of living are obvious. The West India planters prefer the slaves of Benin or Eboe to those of any other part of Guinea, for their hardiness, intelligence, integrity, and zeal. Those benefits are felt by us in the general healthiness of the people, and in their vigour and activity;"
"Thus we are all habituated to labour from our earliest years. Every one contributes something to the common stock; and as we are unacquainted with idleness, we have no beggars." - Oluada Equiano - A true igbo man (the first african slave to write an autobiography)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaudah_Equiano
“Before I came to Biafr*, I heard that Biafrans fought like heroes, but after my visit to Biafr*, I can tell you that Heroes fight like Biafrans.” - John de st jorre, france
THE BEST INDUSTRIAL CLUSTER IN NIGERIA "Nnewi people have already blaze the trail in the area of building the nation's economy through individual efforts, I have gone round to see the factories in the town and I can say with all sense of responsibilities that this is the best industrial cluster in Nigeria. People from other areas should come to Nnewi to learn how the industrialists here are doing it."
"For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%. In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don't forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective." - Maj. Gen Adebayo Adeyinka (rtd.) https://www.nairaland.com/3173893/open-letter-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu
"Eastern region built the Niger bridge, trans-amadi industrial layout, the university of Nigeria, presidential hotel portharcourt, presidential hotel, enugu, metropolitan hotel calabar orji-river power station, ceramics industry umuahia, golden g breweries umuahia, cement factory at nkalagu, several farm settlements, aba textile mill etc."
They were the ones trying to annex others into their proposed republic by force, by fire using maps; until those who were to be annexed, decided to decline the offer in no uncertain terms! Strong language was used, internet blows were landed and a free-for-all began!! 
Then some chaps made uncomplimentary remarks about the Urhobo in the early pages of the thread, which caused the Urhobo to respond to them in kind. 
Please let peace reign, ehn? Biko, it is enough. 
