AdisaOwala:


I think the emboldened should be directed to Pogba & his agent......

It isn't the fault of Nairaland Posters that our expensive Dabadihno (one of the highest paid players in the world) is a "Paparazzi loving", "Limelight crazed" juvenile who showboats unnecessarily....akin to an unserious teenager representing his School at Shell cup with the primary aim of impressing his babe & her friends that come to cheer him in the stands....

P.S : I don't think world record transfer fees & hefty wages are paid for "future purposes"- the earlier he shelves Fùcktever ballon d'or aspirations that seem to be messing with his head & starts concentrating on being a more useful team player, the better for him, his manager & the club as a whole!

It's only on this thread that when one points out the truth he's labeled a Hater. Like coz it's Pogba we shouldn't state facts? Nobody's position has been a problem like that of Pogba all these while. So I don't know why some people hate the truth. A week back I was even the one saying Pogba hasn't been bad like the dailies and pundits have been wailing about.


Just coz someone rightly suggested that Shaw should improve and we're labeled Oliver Twist. Person no fit say truth again. I just tire.

sinizia:


I take it that I'm among those you're referring to by your post. I didn't say Pogba is a burden to our midfield. What I meant is that the exact place and whom to pair him with has been a headache for Mourinho. Since he can't bench him even when he's been below par, Mourinho has been forced to tweak his line-ups to play to Pogba's strength.

Seriously I'm ain't referring to you at all, and you ain't among the Dudes I aimed with my Post!

But..... buh..... ain't you satisfied with Pogba so far?! Is he not adapting, improving and gelling up with the Team gradually?!

I only hope JM would give Herrera and Pogba a chance to gel and develop well together. We need Pogba as our B2B Midfielder. We need him to keep playing the position consistently until he makes it his own!

AdisaOwala:


I think the emboldened should be directed to Pogba & his agent......

It isn't the fault of Nairaland Posters that our expensive Dabadihno (one of the highest paid players in the world) is a "Paparazzi loving", "Limelight crazed" juvenile who showboats unnecessarily....akin to an unserious teenager representing his School at Shell cup with the primary aim of impressing his babe & her friends that come to cheer him in the stands....

P.S : I don't think world record transfer fees & hefty wages are paid for "future purposes"- the earlier he shelves Fùcktever ballon d'or aspirations that seem to be messing with his head & starts concentrating on being a more useful team player, the better for him, his manager & the club as a whole!

Mr. Adisa!!!! Habaaa!!!

That's too harsh nah! All these for Paul Pogba?! Did he murder someone or steal IPhone 7?!

We need to trust him, we need to support him, and we should hope he turns out to a world class Player!

Oasis007:




Seriously I'm ain't referring to you at all, and you ain't among the Dudes I aimed with my Post!

But..... buh..... ain't you satisfied with Pogba so far?! Is he not adapting, improving and gelling up with the Team gradually?!

I only hope JM would give Herrera and Pogba a chance to gel and develop well together. We need Pogba as our B2B Midfielder. We need him to keep playing the position consistently until he makes it his own!

If you check few pages you'll see me standing up for Pogba. He's been playing well recently and I'm okay with that. This issue wasn't even about Pogba, so I don't see what the problem. I don't understand why saying the truth about Pogba being a constant in all Mourinho's midfield pairings is an issue. Abi i dey lie? Pogba has been paired with Carrick, Herrera and Fellani. So what's wrong in that statement?

sinizia:


It's only on this thread that when one points out the truth he's labeled a Hater. Like coz it's Pogba we shouldn't state facts? Nobody's position has been a problem like that of Pogba all these while. So I don't know why some people hate the truth. A week back I was even the one saying Pogba hasn't been bad like the dailies and pundits have been wailing about.


Just coz someone rightly suggested that Shaw should improve and we're labeled Oliver Twist. Person no fit say truth again. I just tire.

As in eh I just tire for some of us...Pogba is getting better cos he is doing less and less of fanciful stuffs...
Smalling and Shaw like Wilshere are the typical English spoilt kids, they don't go the extra mile and are content just to receive their pay checks irrespective of their performance, just look at Sanchez who was injured to still worked hard to get fit to put Uruguay to the sword and also face us at old trafford, that's the kind of mental toughness and determination that we want to see from the lads.

sinizia:


If you check few pages you'll see me standing up for Pogba. He's been playing well recently and I'm okay with that. This issue wasn't even about Pogba, so I don't see what the problem. I don't understand why saying the truth about Pogba being a constant in all Mourinho's midfield pairings is an issue. Abi i dey lie? Pogba has been paired with Carrick, Herrera and Fellani. So what's wrong in that statement?

JM is simply experimenting in order to get a perfect Pairing with Pogba. So far..... Pogba has played well along with Carrick, but you and I know Carrick time will soon be over.

I think, and I've also suggested it earlier in my previous posts - that Herrera should be given a chance.

JM should consistently pair both Herrera and Pogba until they master and understand each other better! Fellaini isn't a United standard, same as Schleiderlin. They should be disposed as soon as possible, and be replaced with just a decent Midfielder.

patrickmuf:
As in eh I just tire for some of us...Pogba is getting better cos he is doing less and less of fanciful stuffs...
Smalling and Shaw like Wilshere are the typical English spoilt kids, they don't go the extra mile and are content just to receive their pay checks irrespective of their performance, just look at Sanchez who was injured to still worked hard to get fit to put Uruguay to the sword and also face us at old trafford, that's the kind of mental toughness and determination that we want to see from the lads.

Well, I guess when someone's fave player gets criticized rightfully, he gets defensive and fall back on the "hater" cliché excuse.

Below is what Leyqute had to say after our match yesterday.. .

Leyqute:
Emphatic 4-0 win. Yes.

Now watch em play this weekend and get frustrated to the point of almost breaking your screen. The little issues are still there. Did any one notice Martial didn't even make the bench?

Now someone on here might think he's hating, but as long as I'm concerned, he's saying truth based on facts. There's no hate at all, only someone that's delusional will argue those facts. It doesn't mean he doesn't wish United well, he's just saying what's been going on.

So after all the years of first team football in Juve with MEN dem like Pirlo, Vidal etc we still dey wait for Pogba to age and experience...? isOkay!

Oasis007:




JM is simply experimenting in order to get a perfect Pairing with Pogba. So far..... Pogba has played well along with Carrick, but you and I know Carrick time will soon be over.

I think, and I've also suggested it earlier in my previous posts - that Herrera should be given a chance.

JM should consistently pair both Herrera and Pogba until they master and understand each other better! Fellaini isn't a United standard, same as Schleiderlin. They should be disposed as soon as possible, and be replaced with just a decent Midfielder.

The embolden is exactly what I've been saying. He's pairing them with Pogba and even moving Pogba to the number 10 role to find the best combo that'll bring out the best in him.

I agree with you've said, I still prefer Herrera's partnership with Pogba over the rest. Carrick has been good alongside Pogba but we need to find his replacement instead of giving him a new contract. We can't keep depending on him - we've to move on someday.


For Fellani and Derlin, we must get their replacements before we sell. If we can't, then we've to keep managing them at least till season ends.

sinizia:


Maybe I didn't word it well. I mean benched when he's been shitty for us like the Rooney, Mhiki and Martial have all been benched based on thier forms. Also when he's been poor in matches he never gets substituted. So benching and substituting ain't the same thing.

And what do you mean by if I get beef with Pogba? Which part of my post implied that? Or you pull up conclusions from thin air?

Maybe you're in hibernation when we've been debating Pogba's best position all season coz he hadn't been spectacular in any. From Pogba, to his agent, to fans, we've all been debating on which position will bring out the best in him, so where's the beef you're talking about? Or when a valid truth is said about your favorite play you get agitated?

He is not my favorite player, never was n never will be because i dont like him... as infrequent as Micki has played, he's is my best player. Shame we have a manager who's all about brute force, defend first approach football. As for Pogba, y'all can hate or like him, i really don't care. There's nothing special he brings to the team or football in general.

sinizia:


It's only on this thread that when one points out the truth he's labeled a Hater. Like coz it's Pogba we shouldn't state facts? Nobody's position has been a problem like that of Pogba all these while. So I don't know why some people hate the truth. A week back I was even the one saying Pogba hasn't been bad like the dailies and pundits have been wailing about.

Pogba actually has all the qualities to make him succeed as a top CMF - he is a strong / Athletic fella with excellent technique & his passing is quite good (intricately & Scholes-esque).

A midfield double Pivot is most effective when both midfielders face play - instead of running into attacking channels & drifting out wide, Pogba's energy can be better utilized by making himself available for passes (when we are in possession) & pressing in midfield (when the opponents have the ball). He should quit the showboating stuff and hold on to the ball only when it is absolutely neccesary. That way, the 90m price tag would be forgotten as we would be having a priceless player on our ranks!

If only he could be tactically & positionally disciplined, people (me inclusive) for no even get mind to dey admire Kante.

Unfortunately, his attitude isn't better than Depay's as we speak....

sinizia:

Just coz someone rightly suggested that Shaw should improve and we're labeled Oliver Twist. Person no fit say truth again. I just tire.

No mind them jare - dem wan dey form say na dem loyal pass.

That reminds me, why did Mourihno allow our Resident Sickler to play 90mins in 3 consecutive matches?

RuuDie:
So after all the years of first team football in Juve with MEN dem like Pirlo, Vidal etc we still dey wait for Pogba to age and experience...? isOkay!

Evans played alongside Nemanja and Rio. Dos Santos played alongside Messi. Gibson played alongside Scholes. I know you'll say "but non of these players costs 87m", yes that's because Pogba is better and this is a New market.

When Zlatan leaves tomorrow and Rash don't start banging goals anyhow, I hope you'll remind the world that he played alongside Zlatan and Rooney.

Some of you just pick phone to type rubbish.

I've been impressed with Pogba so far though I was against his signing.

joeace2020:


He is not my favorite player, never was n never will be because i dont like him... as infrequent as Micki has played, he's is my best player. Shame we have a manager who's all about brute force, defend first approach football. As for Pogba, y'all can hate or like him, i really don't care. There's nothing special he brings to the team or football in general.

And Oasis007 go dey talk say I dey hate on Pogba when this bros feels Pogba can die for all he cares

The negativity and scrutiny here is unbearable.
People go to incredible lengths to make sure they convince themselves (really) that an earlier position taken about a player or situation is right.

The anti Mourinho, pogba, Jones, Ibrahimovic, lingard etc even Rooney.

Ignore every positive thing, wait for a slip up, attack, repeat Is the M. O

Frankly I have long given up on trying to convince anyone about anything. 9/10 times it ends ugly after going round in circles

AdisaOwala:


And Oasis007 go dey talk say I dey hate on Pogba when this bros feels Pogba can die for all he cares

Really don't know what to say again! Perhaps I should join the Anti-Pogba Group.

I'm less concerned whether anyone is hating on Pogba or not; and honestly you and Sinizia are always objectively critiquing Pogba and his performance for the Team.

I'm only saying we should give him at least a Season to prove his worth for the Team. I'm ain't asking for too much nah!

Oasis007:




Really don't know what to say again! Perhaps I should join the Anti-Pogba Group.

I'm less concerned whether anyone is hating on Pogba or not; and honestly you and Sinizia are always objectively critiquing Pogba and his performance for the Team.

I'm only saying we should give him at least a Season to prove his worth for the Team. I'm ain't asking for too much nah!

My dissatisfaction with Pogba isn't necessarily "unchangeable"...

When De Gea was dropping clangers week-in-week-out during his debut season, I was one of his strongest critics here - this was because his errors were costing us valuable points.

He improved & as we all know, the rest is history!

If Pogba turns a new leaf, I wouldn't be ashamed to eat the humble pie bro.

Anderson has made a comparison between himself and Steven Gerrard on the day the former Liverpool captain announced his retirement.

Speaking after Gerrard announced his retirement, Anderson pointed out that he won far more league titles in his career than Gerrard.

"I won everything at the club. I won four Premier Leagues.

"A player like Gerrard, who like, played for Liverpool, a player who has history in world football, didn't win one. And I achieve four playing for the club.

"I was world champion at the club. I was Champions League champion. I played three Champions League finals for the club.

"When I arrived at the club, all the players embraced me. They always joked with everyone. The guys there are very nice.

"To this day, I'm passionate for that club. It's the number one in the world for me."

[Source: Daily Mail] #MUFC #Anderson

page 3550 as at Nov 25th
i am sure this thread go enter 4000 bfr this year ends

Mourinho: "When I won the last title 18 years ago – sorry, 18 months ago – I had a 10-point advantage."

sinizia:


Well, I guess when someone's fave player gets criticized rightfully, he gets defensive and fall back on the "hater" cliché excuse.

Below is what Leyqute had to say after our match yesterday.. .


Now someone on here might think he's hating, but as long as I'm concerned, he's saying truth based on facts. There's no hate at all, only someone that's delusional will argue those facts. It doesn't mean he doesn't wish United well, he's just saying what's been going on.

Thank you o. I was jejely voicing my observations when I was suddenly tagged a wailing wailer.

As if we haven't seen the same thing happen season after season. From Moyes, to Van Gaal, and now Mourinho- we have a terrible away performance and record.

Leyqute:


Thank you o. I was jejely voicing my observations when I was suddenly tagged a wailing wailer.

As if we haven't seen the same thing happen season after season. From Moyes, to Van Gaal, and now Mourinho- we have a terrible away performance and record.

But we are gonna be playing at home na...

I don't expect us to drop points sha

UniqueGem:
Evans played alongside Nemanja and Rio. Dos Santos played alongside Messi. Gibson played alongside Scholes. I know you'll say "but non of these players costs 87m", yes that's because Pogba is better and this is a New market.

When Zlatan leaves tomorrow and Rash don't start banging goals anyhow, I hope you'll remind the world that he played alongside Zlatan and Rooney.

Some of you just pick phone to type rubbish.

I've been impressed with Pogba so far though I was against his signing.

I just like as u je-jely answer yourself there!

RuuDie:


I just like as u je-jely answer yourself there!

That has always been the ignorant peoples excuse.

UniqueGem:
That has always been the ignorant peoples excuse.

What is "ignorant" about expecting one of the world's costliest player to actually PLAY like it... or isn't this the same reason Rooney is being constantly persecuted on this same forum!? Did UTD splash that cash because they saw that "he is improving"?

RuuDie:


What is "ignorant" about expecting one of the world's costliest player to actually PLAY like it... or isn't this the same reason Rooney is being constantly persecuted on this same forum!? Did UTD splash that cash because they saw that "he is improving"?

And I'm telling you Pogba has been good in my sight. Maybe you expect him to score in every match, I don't. And he's one of our best performers so far. Take it to the bank and you'll get paid

joeace2020:


He is not my favorite player, never was n never will be because i dont like him... as infrequent as Micki has played, he's is my best player. Shame we have a manager who's all about brute force, defend first approach football. As for Pogba, y'all can hate or like him, i really don't care. There's nothing special he brings to the team or football in general.

You can't be saying this about the most expensive player in the world.

UniqueGem:
Evans played alongside Nemanja and Rio. Dos Santos played alongside Messi. Gibson played alongside Scholes. I know you'll say "but non of these players costs 87m", yes that's because Pogba is better and this is a New market.

When Zlatan leaves tomorrow and Rash don't start banging goals anyhow, I hope you'll remind the world that he played alongside Zlatan and Rooney.

Some of you just pick phone to type rubbish.

I've been impressed with Pogba so far though I was against his signing.

The problem I have with some of you is that you're quick to lay on some players when we lose or drop points but others are given free pass. That's not fair

eph12:

The problem I have with some of you is that you're quick to lay on some players when we lose or drop points but others are given free pass. That's not fair

I don't know if you're insinuating that I slay other players while giving some a pass. But if that's the case, I would like you to pin out a post of mine slaying a player unnecessarily. The last United player i castigated was Rooney and that was when he very well deserved it.

eph12:


You can't be saying this about the most expensive player in the world.

When a wealthy man is desperate, money is never a problem so he keeps spending and spending

AdisaOwala:


But we are gonna be playing at home na...

I don't expect us to drop points sha

After West Ham is away to Everton. That's the match I have my eyes on. We're usually solid at home but the weakness when we're away is worrying. Most of our shock defeats this season were away games.

Bournemouth, Hull n Swansea- those are the games we've won away from home. Chelsea, Watford, Feyenord, Fenerbahce- we've lost those matches in a non Man Utd fashion.

If we are to be taken serious, we have to start playing our away matches as if we're at OT. The results will start coming in if we up our game and not act dispassionately. I'm very sure we'll be in the top 4 if not 2 in a month if we get this right.

AdisaOwala:


My dissatisfaction with Pogba isn't necessarily "unchangeable"...

When De Gea was dropping clangers week-in-week-out during his debut season, I was one of his strongest critics here - this was because his errors were costing us valuable points.

He improved & as we all know, the rest is history!

If Pogba turns a new leaf, I wouldn't be ashamed to eat the humble pie bro.

....... that will soon happy, in few weeks time!