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Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by ZKOSOSO(m): 8:14pm On Nov 26, 2016
malton:


Nagode, oga. Kai ma haka!
Idan anfadi gaskiya sai ku fara maganan banza.
Mutanen kudu sun fi yan Arewa a komi. Har shugabancin kasa, tatolin arziki tare da Sanaa. Na sharuwan Arewa. Hafiyayen Arewa. Tabas...
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Caseless: 8:15pm On Nov 26, 2016
Blue3k:


In statistics that's called an outlier. Besides he building said refinery in south. The Gernearl statement remains true.
you need education .
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Caseless: 8:17pm On Nov 26, 2016
ZKOSOSO:

Idan anfadi gaskiya sai ku fara maganan banza.
Mutanen kudu sun fi yan Arewa a komi. Har shugabanci kasa, tatolin arziki tare da Sanaa. Na sharuwan Arewa. Hafiyayen Arewa. Tabas...


kadaina nuna jahilcinka a fili.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Blue3k(m): 8:18pm On Nov 26, 2016
MeAboki:


Pls explain what makes you think northerners are lazy and by inference southerners more hard working?
P/S: pls don't give me that crap about oyel money; because we all know that you guys do not actually produce the oil; the oyinbo man does it and simply pays the Nigerian govt royalties, which the govt in turn shares with its composite states.

I will bring up oil because it does count. In economics anything produced within your domain counts towards gdp. The Allocation arguements and mineral right arguement holds weight. It's also reason why akwa ibom get most out oil money.

Let's more to IGR the north boast lowest gdp, IGR gdp grossly, lowest per capita IGR as well. Let's look at Kano vs Akwa Ibom or Anambra. In terms of IGR both southern state beat it. Mind you Kano is largest state with second highest population that can bearly match either state toe to toe on any metric.

If you look at graphs of poverty rates the northern regions always comes out higher aswell. As a region and state by state. In terms of IGR SE is 3rd highest politicial region and still bigger that at least 2 Northern regions put together.

Northern region boast many mineral deposits but remains under developed. The fact is that if laziness is subsidized through Allocation states will remain lazy. Thats why people on nairaland generally agree reform would be best.

Ps. You can check poverty stats on state websites and federal government website.

http://nigeria.opendataforafrica.org/

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Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Orikinla(m): 8:20pm On Nov 26, 2016
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Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Blue3k(m): 8:21pm On Nov 26, 2016
Caseless:
you need education .

What did I say wrong. Is that an outlier. Isn't the south more economically sound. His first 3 states where generally correct. The stats behind it don't lie.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Orikinla(m): 8:22pm On Nov 26, 2016
Blue3k:


I will bring up oil because it does count. In economics anything produced within your domain counts towards gdp. The Allocation arguements and mineral right arguement holds weight. It's also reason why akwa ibom get most out oil money.

Let's more to IGR the north boast lowest gdp, IGR gdp grossly, lowest per capita IGR as well. Let's look at Kano vs Akwa Ibom or Anambra. In terms of IGR both southern state beat it. Mind you Kano is largest state with second highest population that can bearly match either state toe to toe on any metric.

If you look at graphs of poverty rates the northern regions always comes out higher aswell. As a region and state by state. In terms of IGR SE is 3rd highest politicial region and still bigger that at least 2 Northern regions put together.

Northern region boast many mineral deposits but remains under developed. The fact is that if laziness is subsidized through Allocation states will remain lazy. Thats why people on nairaland generally agree reform would be best.

Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by MeAboki(m): 8:39pm On Nov 26, 2016
Blue3k:


I will bring up oil because it does count. In economics anything produced within your domain counts towards gdp. The Allocation arguements and mineral right arguement holds weight. It's also reason why akwa ibom get most out oil money.

Let's more to IGR the north boast lowest gdp, IGR gdp grossly, lowest per capita IGR as well. Let's look at Kano vs Akwa Ibom or Anambra. In terms of IGR both southern state beat it. Mind you Kano is largest state with second highest population that can bearly match either state toe to toe on any metric.

If you look at graphs of poverty rates the northern regions always comes out higher aswell. As a region and state by state. In terms of IGR SE is 3rd highest politicial region and still bigger that at least 2 Northern regions put together.

Northern region boast many mineral deposits but remains under developed. The fact is that if laziness is subsidized through Allocation states will remain lazy. Thats why people on nairaland generally agree reform would be best.

You just proved to me that you an educated illiterate; you spoke of laziness and were asked to give reason why you called a particular ppl of this country lazy; yet all you could do was to give out figures of IGR, mineral resource and poverty distribution as if these are directly related to the indolence you spoke about.
I put it to you that you evidently do not understand the meaning of laziness; otherwise you wouldn't have used it as an adjective to describe northerners.
Meanwhile, I suggest you first consult a dictionary for the words lazy/laziness; then come back and try to justify your ignorant use of them on northerners.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by malton: 8:44pm On Nov 26, 2016
ZKOSOSO:

Idan anfadi gaskiya sai ku fara maganan banza.
Mutanen kudu sun fi yan Arewa a komi. Har shugabancin kasa, tatolin arziki tare da Sanaa. Na sharuwan Arewa. Hafiyayen Arewa. Tabas...


TF! Ka ji dan iska! grin

Mallam, komai fa ka ce! shocked

Mutumi na, ka bar magana. Idan an ga gaskiya a fadi. Kowa dai da yadda abubuwa suka kambala masa. Babu mutum daya da ya iya komai. Maganar ka ba ta cencenta ba kam. Na san yan arewa dayawa wadda suka iya abubuwa dayawa fiye da yan kudu sosai. Amman ka ga ba ta kasance na ce wai yan kudu basu iya komai ba.

Toh, wane shugaban kasan kirki ne yan kudun suka kawo?

Maganar ka ta yan siyasa ce.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Blue3k(m): 8:50pm On Nov 26, 2016
MeAboki:


You just proved to me that you an educated illiterate; you spoke of laziness and were asked to give reason why you called a particular ppl of this country lazy; yet all you could do was to give out figures of IGR, mineral resource and poverty distribution as if these are directly related to the indolence you spoke about.
I put it to you that you evidently do not understand the meaning of laziness; otherwise you wouldn't have used it as an adjective to describe northerners.
Meanwhile, I suggest you first consult a dictionary for the words lazy/laziness; then come back and try to justify your ignorant use of them on northerners.

I guess you must be an actual illiterate. I understand reading is not your strong suit. When I said lazy I meant in terms of generation of wealth and production. The context in which I'm writing indicated that. That's why I refer to it as laggard region. The post wasn't about singular persons it was about economic production.

Anway you switch arguements as soon as I proved you wrong. You knew what i talking was economics strictly speaking. I know this is true because you brought up oil. You knew you lost arguement now you want to switch topics. Don't bother me again if you want to be disingenuous.

Ps. If your not talking economics like I clearly was you need not reply me. The alication system does encourage laziness definition 1 economicly.

MeAboki:


Pls explain what makes you think northerners are lazy and by inference southerners more hard working?

P/S: pls don't give me that crap about oyel money; because we all know that you guys do not actually produce the oil; the oyinbo man does it and simply pays the Nigerian govt royalties, which the govt in turn shares with its composite states.

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Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Orikinla(m): 9:01pm On Nov 26, 2016
malton:

TF! Ka ji dan iska! grin

Mallam, komai fa ka ce! shocked

Mutumi na, ka bar magana. Idan an ga gaskiya a fadi. Kowa dai da yadda abubuwa suka kambala masa. Babu mutum daya da ya iya komai. Maganar ka ba ta cencenta ba kam. Na san yan arewa dayawa wadda suka iya abubuwa dayawa fiye da yan kudu sosai. Amman ka ga ba ta kasance na ce wai yan kudu basu iya komai ba.

Toh, wane shugaban kasan kirki ne yan kudun suka kawo?

Maganar ka ta yan siyasa ce.
Please, my good mother of blessed memory did not teach me Hausa that she understood very well even though she was Igbo who also understood Yoruba.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by CoolFreeday(m): 10:44pm On Nov 26, 2016
malel1:

Then u and ur household are myopic
we are not. We actually see better than others.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by MeAboki(m): 10:54pm On Nov 26, 2016
Blue3k:


I guess you must be an actual illiterate. I understand reading is not your strong suit. When I said lazy I meant in terms of generation of wealth and production. The context in which I'm writing indicated that. That's why I referto it as laggard region. The post wasn't about singular persons it was about economic production.

Anway you switch arguements aswell as soon as I proved you wrong. You knew what i talking was economics strictly speaking. I know this is true because you brought up oil. You knew you lost arguement now you want to switch topics. Don't bother me again if you want to be disingenuous.

Ps. If your not talking economics like I clearly was you need not reply me. The alication system does encourage laziness definition 1 economicly.


Absolute bullcrap, codswallop!

If you haven't read your posts; I'd advise you so very carefully.

Anyone with basic English comprehension would understand that the meaning of the word lazy or laziness does change irrespective of the context used.

It still means indolence or lack of effort, industry or input in any sphere of individual or collective human activity; whether economic, physical, intellectual, social etc.

Now refer to and subsequently analyze one of your own statements below, where you also used the word laggard simultaneously and explain what you meant by this LAZINESS?

They are laggard region due to fact the laziness is rewarded with allocation money.

My question was straight forward and never disingenuous nor did I switch argument - as I hadn't offered any argument except to pose only a question - which remains: how are northerners lazy and by inference southerners more hardworking?

Are you suggesting that the disparity in poverty or wealth generation between the north and south (which you mentioned) is as a result of laziness on the part of northerners?

Would you by the same logic also say an economically rich country such as Saudi Arabia, with a high GDP, is richer than Nigeria because its citizens are more hard working and Nigerians lazy?

It should become clear by now that your earlier statement about northerners was unfounded, illogical and laced with bigotry and ignorance - pls don't compound your position with more silly excuses - you made a mistake; just accept it.
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by gwales: 11:00pm On Nov 26, 2016
MeAboki:


Absolute bullcrap, codswallop!

If you haven't read your posts; I'd advise you so very carefully.

Anyone with basic English comprehension would understand that the meaning of the word lazy or laziness does change irrespective of the context used.

It still means indolence or lack of effort, industry or input in any sphere of individual or collective human activity; whether economic, physical, intellectual, social etc.

Now refer to and subsequently analyze one of your own statements below, where you also used the word laggard simultaneously and explain what you meant by this LAZINESS?

They are laggard region due to fact the laziness is rewarded with allocation money.

My question was straight forward and never disingenuous nor did I switch argument - as I hadn't offered any argument except to pose only a question - which remains: how are northerners lazy and by inference southerners more hardworking?

Are you suggesting that the disparity in poverty or wealth generation between the north and south (which you mentioned) is as a result of laziness on the part of northerners?

Would you by the same logic also say an economically rich country such as Saudi Arabia, with a high GDP, is richer than Nigeria because its citizens are more hard working and Nigerians lazy?

It should become clear by now that your earlier statement about northerners was unfounded, illogical and laced with bigotry and ignorance - pls don't compound your position with more silly excuses - you made a mistake; just accept it.
epic!!!
Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Blue3k(m): 11:13pm On Nov 26, 2016
MeAboki:


Absolute bullcrap, codswallop!

If you haven't read your posts; I'd advise you so very carefully.

Anyone with basic English comprehension would understand that the meaning of the word lazy or laziness does change irrespective of the context used.

It still means indolence or lack of effort, industry or input in any sphere of individual or collective human activity; whether economic, physical, intellectual, social etc.

Now refer to and subsequently analyze one of your own statements below, where you also used the word laggard simultaneously and explain what you meant by this LAZINESS?

They are laggard region due to fact the laziness is rewarded with allocation money.

My question was straight forward and never disingenuous nor did I switch argument - as I hadn't offered any argument except to pose only a question - which remains: how are northerners lazy and by inference southerners more hardworking?

Are you suggesting that the disparity in poverty or wealth generation between the north and south (which you mentioned) is as a result of laziness on the part of northerners?

Would you by the same logic also say an economically rich country such as Saudi Arabia, with a high GDP, is richer than Nigeria because its citizens are more hard working and Nigerians lazy?

It should become clear by now that your earlier statement about northerners was unfounded, illogical and laced with bigotry and ignorance - pls don't compound your position with more silly excuses - you made a mistake; just accept it.

Lazy also means to unproductive. The statement fits like I said. Look the stats a showed proved my point. What is there for you to argue about. The economic stats prove this and by the context we were talking about economics.

Unwillingness to tap into the abundant natural resoures that your blessed with does constitute as laziness. Yes the definition 1 of lazy does fit the region like I mentioned in post script. The north are laggard region economicly. If you hate the word lazy which is true. Do you prefer words like laggard or unproductive to describe economic situation I brought up.

Yes Saudi Arabia is richer because the work harder and more productive. They aren't under achieving like Nigeria does currently. The unproductivity has to do with economic incentives and curruption.

Nothing I said is I'll founded. The stats I brought up are true and you havent refuted it because you cant. The north is lazy because it's unproductive like I stated.

This isn't about tribes or races this is about geological zones. All sorts of tribes live in Lagos and highly industrious. There's nothing bigoted about my statements about northern region or states. The stats don't care about tribe or ethnic background.

Yes you are illiterate because the antonym for lazy is industrious. In the conext I was speaking it will continue to make sense. My points stand now buzz off. You took your time to come back with this weak rebuttal. Go pick up a thesaurus instead of pretending you kow how to read. Yes context does determine in what manner your describe some aspect of laziness. In our case we talked economic productivity.

Ps. Stop clowning your mastery of english language is to weak and your arguements have no logic to them. The northern region is laggard region like I claimed and proved. You know northern region unproductive compared to south that's why you won't argue different. I know you can't describe industrious when you describe northern Nigeria in general sense.

Don't mention me about unless you want to stats and figures. You definition arguements has been sunk. Now accept defeat.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/industrious/adjective

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Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Orikinla(m): 7:18am On Nov 27, 2016
Northerners are among the hardest working people in Nigeria as farmers and labourers.
Go to the north and see the rice pyramids; date palms, onions, tomatoes, red pepper and groundnuts.
And in the south, they are our most trusted "Mai" guards to be our gatemen and "Mai Ruea" watcher fetchers and suppliers.
Northerners are now taking over the "Obioma" street tailoring business from the Igbo's in Lagos.
Without them, how many non northerners will do these compulsory jobs.

Saying northerners are lazy is idiotic.

Re: The North Wants To Rule Nigeria For 12 Years, Till 2027 by Blue3k(m): 10:38am On Nov 27, 2016
Orikinla:

Northerners are now taking over the "Obioma" street tailoring business from the Igbo's in Lagos.
Without them, how many non northerners will do these compulsory jobs.

Saying northerners are lazy is idiotic.

I already proved norther region is unproductive when put next to south. When I said lazy it was meant as unproductive. The northern states is what I was talking about not singular persons. Go back and read post instead of trying to attack stramen like fraud.

Nothern states have people from southern nigeria as well that make life there. The problem is not tribal it about bad economic incentives and laws that spur unproductive or laziness in exploting economic potential.

You're assuming I meant it as people or racial group. Saying north Nigeria is laggard region due to laziness being rewarded by allocation money isn't wrong.

Ps. I ready mentioned success in Lagos by people from north. The productivity in Lagos counts towards Lagos economy. Your points have been blown out of water aswell because you refuse to read like your brother.


Blue3k:


Lazy also means to unproductive. The statement fits like I said. Look the stats a showed proved my point. What is there for you to argue about. The economic stats prove this and by the context we were talking about economics.

This isn't about tribes or races this is about geological zones. All sorts of tribes live in Lagos and highly industrious. There's nothing bigoted about my statements about northern region or states. The stats don't care about tribe or ethnic background.

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