aalangel:

Pastor Chris Okotie, the person you're referring to isn't fake either.

pastor cum failed presidential aspirant. As if Jesus venture into politics.

vislabraye:


Let me digress a little. What's the meaning of your username ? I caught my attention.

Hmmm. You. Try doh

holatin:
Gud morning and happy sunday.
It has come 2 my notice that a lot of pastor now have bodyguard, and the only question dat crept into my mind is:

What is a pastor scared of?

Let go back to the time of jesus, even with how the pharisee,tax collector and idol worshipper hated him, he never resort to human protection but God's.

The reason for creatiing is to ask ur view concern pastor bodyguarding.

He reminded of Commando. A hardened criminal on the walk.

iamloyalty:



please go and do your findings or abeg ask Nairalanders, he wanted to become president issuing a fake prophecy that God want him to rule at the end he was exposed as fake.

Lady, stop exposing your ignorance. Aside the topic, I'm Media Practitioner and I know Presidential Aspirants. My initial story was about Pastor Chris Oyakhilome not Okotie. Okotie is the one that ventured into politics. At least, Google is still your friend..

Ask which Nairalanders? Do they have information more than me?

Welcome to naija where a pastor will sell holy water to the congregation and yet hire bodyguards.

peacesamuel94:


It is not compulsory for them to have bodyguards, but to some extent it is necessary, like I said before for crowd control when in public places not because of fear.


God does not pre-arrange untimely death gor His children, He said His thoughts for us is to bring us to an expected end. And about myles Munroe , don't judge a book by its cover........ Public reputation is not the same as being righteous before God, there are a lot of things we don't know so let's not make assumptions.

Going to heaven is good, but fulfilling our days and achieving our purpose of being born should not be sidelined.
So you shouldn't aspire to die untimely because you want to go to heaven.
If coming to earth was not important, you would not be here in the first place. For the sake of emphasis God is after our longevity not the other way round.

Mehn...You have an overwhelming ability to consciously spew any convenient trash in order to deviate from the truth and justify your warped beliefs

aalangel:


There was a time in the 90s, every time Pastor Chris goes to the airport to board a plane, a young chap will follow him around and be shouting, "fake Pastor". He did it so many times.......till one day.







Pastor Chris ordered his physical angels to shut the guy up and that's how he stopped it.

The truth is that they are public figures. That man that was harassing Pastor could one day stab him.

If as an individual, you need a bodyguard, please take one. It's not a sin.

If body guards are needed, why do they promise the congregation of " God's protection"? Why didn't pastor Chris pray that that disturbing chap goes away and leaves him for good?

Don't you know that God will come like a thief in the night. likewise the bouncers will protect the pastor when the members finally know that they've been robbed for years ignorantly. lol

esuLAAROYE:


Hmmm. You. Try doh

Is that the meaning ?

EyeofHorus:
Why not?

Pastors need 12 bodyguards each.

Don't you know Jesus' disciples were also his bodyguards

I read ur comment and laughed. Do u understand the scripture at all? No vex o. If u refer to the 12 disciples of Christ as bodyguards, where are the Pastorates of the Ex-CAN President? I want to believe they are more than 100 in number. They shd hv also stood by him as bodyguards.
Truth is bitter but I need to spill it out. Pastors are having bodyguards because angels of God are no longer close to them. They are very far away from God spiritually.

If you think I'm wrong, consult your bible; read about prophet Elijah. You will realize that "not everyone that dresses in spiritual regalia or calls the Lord's name will enter the kingdom of GOD".

BEHOLD>>>>HUMAN BEINGS ESPECIALLY PROPHETS AND PASTORS&PROPHETESS ARE THE PROBLEM OF GOD AND THAT IS WHY GOD SAID I REGRET CREATING HUMAN BEINGS AND YOU MUST BE TOLD TO KNOW THAT IT WAS AFTER GOD CREATED HUMANS THAT HE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SATAN THE DEVIL ### THE KINGDOM HAS COME>THE ANCIENT WORLD OF JUSTICE HAS COME..Pray and tell the mantle of GOD to move with the cutlass of heaven and all the weapons of heaven and invade every evil church that you must have entered knowingly or unknowingly that the kingdom of heaven should slaughter any evil man of God that has hands in your prosperity and deceiving you that the mantle should expose and disgrace them and put them on chain from heaven for you to be set free

Pray and tell the mantle of GOD to reveal to you about the kingdom and the mantle and the light that has come

Pray and tell the mantle of GOD concerning every hidden ,evil world upon your life,such as evil marine world,spiritual husband,spiritual wife,tell the mantle to strike them to death and put them on chain

Pray and tell the mantle of GOD to move with all the weapons of heaven and locate all your evil villagers your evil uncles your evil relations your evil brothers and evil sisters and evil husband ,evil wife and your evil neighbors and evil landlords and evil landladies ,that the mantle should expose them and slaughter them to death and put them on chain from heaven for you to be free

Pray and tell the mantle of GOD to strike every witches and wizards to upon your life upon your business upon your expectations,that the mantle should strike them to death and put them on chain for you to prosper>>>>HUMAN BEINGS ARE THE PROBLEM OF GOD AND THAT IS WHY GOD SAID I REGRET CREATING HUMAN BEINGS AND YOU MUST BE TOLD TO KNOW THAT IT WAS AFTER GOD CREATED HUMANS THAT HE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SATAN THE DEVIL

mctowel01:

If body guards are needed, why do they promise the congregation of " God's protection"? Why didn't pastor Chris pray that that disturbing chap goes away and leaves him for good?

That would have been a silly prayer request.

aalangel:


That would have been a silly prayer request.

Silly? because he can easily afford a chain o bodyguards..Yet he tells the congregation that God will protect them. No need arguing,, your thinking is already warped with webs..let it die.

mctowel01:

Silly? because he can easily afford a chain o bodyguards..Yet he tells the congregation that God will protect them. No need arguing,, your thinking is already warped with webs..let it die.

Yea. Really none of your business.

[quote author=aalangel post=51294426]

Lady, stop exposing your ignorance. Aside the topic, I'm Media Practitioner and I know Presidential Aspirants. My initial story was about Pastor Chris Oyakhilome not Okotie. Okotie is the one that ventured into politics. At least, Google is still your friend..

Ask which Nairalanders? Do they have information more than me?[/quot
kai! He pain am.

aalangel:


Lady, stop exposing your ignorance. Aside the topic, I'm Media Practitioner and I know Presidential Aspirants. My initial story was about Pastor Chris Oyakhilome not Okotie. Okotie is the one that ventured into politics. At least, Google is still your friend..

Ask which Nairalanders? Do they have information more than me?

Stop exposing your low level of assimilation, who ur outdated information help? Abeg i don move go another thread jor!

peacesamuel94:


It is not compulsory for them to have bodyguards, but to some extent it is necessary, like I said before for crowd control when in public places not because of fear.


God does not pre-arrange untimely death gor His children, He said His thoughts for us is to bring us to an expected end. And about myles Munroe , don't judge a book by its cover........ Public reputation is not the same as being righteous before God, there are a lot of things we don't know so let's not make assumptions.

Going to heaven is good, but fulfilling our days and achieving our purpose of being born should not be sidelined.
So you shouldn't aspire to die untimely because you want to go to heaven.
If coming to earth was not important, you would not be here in the first place. For the sake of emphasis God is after our longevity not the other way round.

The question here is 'ARMED' and not "crowd control" as you logically mentioned in your comment. You cant use AK 47, Pump Actions and Missiles to control crowd, you can only use those weapons to fall attackers. I believe in fulfillment in life as well and i dont think any reasonable person will wish him/erself untimely death except if he is frustrated. So, thinking that as a Man of God or public figure; going out without armed men is suicidal, is something I dont want to subscribe. You sounded just that with your emboldened statement.

iamloyalty:


Stop exposing your low level of assimilation, who ur outdated information help? Abeg i don move go another thread jor!

You don't have a teachable Spirit. Learn to learn.

aalangel:


You don't have a teachable Spirit. Learn to learn.

Abeg nor go hang yourself because this issue, i have moved on. If u like quote me i wont even check.

iamloyalty:

Abeg nor go hang yourself because this issue, i have moved on. If u like quote me i wont even check.

You'll so check, you just won't respond. So petty. After all, you're the one that started the quoting with your ignorance of News.

mctowel01:

Mehn...You have an overwhelming ability to consciously spew any convenient trash in order to deviate from the truth and justify your warped beliefs

ok

Boyooosa:

The question here is 'ARMED' and not "crowd control" as you logically mentioned in your comment. You cant use AK 47, Pump Actions and Missiles to control crowd, you can only use those weapons to fall attackers. I believe in fulfillment in life as well and i dont think any reasonable person will wish him/erself untimely death except if he is frustrated. So, thinking that as a Man of God or public figure; going out without armed men is suicidal, is something I dont want to subscribe. You sounded just that with your emboldened statement.

I said so in reply to what you posted earlier not because I think their going out without armed men is suicidal.

Let me reemphasize my view point concerning the topic, There is nothing wrong if they decide to hire bodyguards to show up at public places, and again there is nothing wrong if they decide not to.

It is easy to cast stones and point accusing fingers, until we find ourselves in such a situation. Let's look at it from another angle, Imagine If PA adeboye or Bishop Oyedepo were to show up at Oshodi, without security officials, try and picture the kind of scene that will play out, the commotion, the frenzy they would cause. Would you call that humility or publicity stunts?

You can't please everyone bro, as long as their reasons are genuine and it's not just to show off, then there's nothing wrong, and if they choose not to, then so be it.

Boyooosa:

The question here is 'ARMED' and not "crowd control" as you logically mentioned in your comment. You cant use AK 47, Pump Actions and Missiles to control crowd, you can only use those weapons to fall attackers. I believe in fulfillment in life as well and i dont think any reasonable person will wish him/erself untimely death except if he is frustrated. So, thinking that as a Man of God or public figure; going out without armed men is suicidal, is something I dont want to subscribe. You sounded just that with your emboldened statement.

It is better for all that the bodyguards shoot and kill disobedient crowd. If not the wrath of God will fall upon them and they may have generational curses and diseases and infant mortality. The death will be worse than mere bullet. Gods prophets are protected with good reason.

Aaronsrod:


It is better for all that the bodyguards shoot and kill disobedient crowd. If not the wrath of God will fall upon them and they may have generational curses and diseases and infant mortality. The death will be worse than mere bullet. Gods prophets are protected with good reason.

We love discharging God's Responsibility in this part of the world sha. Why not leave the responsibility of Prophets' protection to the Angels, isn't it spiritual?

peacesamuel94:



I said so in reply to what you posted earlier not because I think their going out without armed men is suicidal.

Let me reemphasize my view point concerning the topic, There is nothing wrong if they decide to hire bodyguards to show up at public places, and again there is nothing wrong if they decide not to.

It is easy to cast stones and point accusing fingers, until we find ourselves in such a situation. Let's look at it from another angle, Imagine If PA adeboye or Bishop Oyedepo were to show up at Oshodi, without security officials, try and picture the kind of scene that will play out, the commotion, the frenzy they would cause. Would you call that humility or publicity stunts?

You can't please everyone bro, as long as their reasons are genuine and it's not just to show off, then there's nothing wrong, and if they choose not to, then so be it.

All through our chats, u v always made sense to me but sitting on the fence on the question "good or bad" is why am typing this, which may be my last comment. Is it good or bad to have armed men as your security while on public tour? simfu! Am verbatim that there is no call for such action except in a situation where God has informed such person that He is not sufficient for him and that, he can seek further protection. Afterall, a pastor or a prophet does not have anything to do with a physical war but spiritual warfare. So, why the need for physical weapons while the WORD of God can turn a city to ash. Bro, I dont drag with God's Might, instead I abide with basic law of Human's constitution... such as; dont go out in the night, dont steal, dont womanise, dont drink to stupor and most importantly, dont dare the Devil!

Boyooosa:
All through our chats, u v always made sense to me but sitting on the fence on the question "good or bad" is why am typing this, which may be my last comment. Is it good or bad to have armed men as your security while on public tour? simfu! Am verbatim that there is no call for such action except in a situation where God has informed such person that He is not sufficient for him and that, he can seek further protection. Afterall, a pastor or a prophet does not have anything to do with a physical war but spiritual warfare. So, why the need for physical weapons while the WORD of God can turn a city to ash. Bro, I dont drag with God's Might, instead I abide with basic law of Human's constitution... such as; dont go out in the night, dont steal, dont womanise, dont drink to stupor and most importantly, dont dare the Devil!

Personally i believe its a thing of choice, and not necessarily à good thing or bad thing. It is just like asking if it is good or bad for us to travel by boat or ship instead of us to simply walk On water Just like Christ did........Or dont we believe in God's ability to protect us ?

I believe l'm chatting with a christian, so i would say, Annoting level differs, if a Man of God feels that he has gotten to the level where angels now literally escort him to wherever he goes and there will be no need for guards then 5n.
But until then he shouldn't tempt God.
Jesus had the ability to turn stones to bread but still yet, he didn't, does this make him false ? Of course not.


The summary is that they can choose to, and can choose not to, and is not necessarily à display of righteousness or sinfulness.

Hope this helps.

Boyooosa:

We love discharging God's Responsibility in this part of the world sha. Why not leave the responsibility of Prophets' protection to the Angels, isn't it spiritual?

Which angels?? When the Lord speaks we obey.

Aaronsrod:

Which angels?? When the Lord speaks we obey.

peacesamuel94:




Personally i believe its a thing of choice, and not necessarily à good thing or bad thing. It is just like asking if it is good or bad for us to travel by boat or ship instead of us to simply walk On water Just like Christ did........Or dont we believe in God's ability to protect us ?

I believe l'm chatting with a christian, so i would say, Annoting level differs, if a Man of God feels that he has gotten to the level where angels now literally escort him to wherever he goes and there will be no need for guards then 5n.
But until then he shouldn't tempt God.
Jesus had the ability to turn stones to bread but still yet, he didn't, does this make him false ? Of course not.


The summary is that they can choose to, and can choose not to, and is not necessarily à display of righteousness or sinfulness.

Hope this helps.

... and if they choose to, what is the essence? Brother, am not too bothered about them parading armed men in every public event they attend, its their choice as u rightly mentioned. But from my own perspective, I want to believe that men of God are supposed to be role models for human race which means that their followers can always emulate them for the good things they do (No perfect man anyway, so they have shortfalls). In a situation where someone like Baba Adeboye or Bishop Oyedepo does something that can be easily criticized, then u should imagine what will happen in the next few days to such action (Remix everywhere, both with good and bad intention... I hope u understand what I mean). Fine, we are talking about 'Faith Based' Organisation and someone needs to lead by example to show the faith, then who is showing it if Baba Adeboye is not doing that? I am not requesting Baba Adeboye to go and preach in Zambisa Forest (laffs) without adequate security, what am reflecting here is that Baba Adeboye should let every believer understands and rest assures that "God is the Only and Only competent Protector". Play out this scenario: If RCCG @ KM46, Lagos/Ibadan Expressway is being listed by BH for attack; it will be suicidal for him and his followers to say they dont need Battalions of Army (even when God sent Saul to war, he gave him the precise numbers of Army he will need to fight the war) in front of their Gate (even God will blame him). But as a Christian leader, and you want to go out for an occasion or probably crusade in a peaceful but rowdy place like Oshodi, me am seeing the act of going with Men with AK47 as a Show of Shame (just like the way it was displayed in that pix we saw). Gun kills bro, its better you consult God before your outing and hear an audible NOD of God b4 going for such occasion than to be causing this kind of discussion we are having here. The only convincing reason i can accept here is if you tell me its an instruction from God and not like; Its their personal choice or intent behind it. Happy Sunday Bro!

Boyooosa:

... and if they choose to, what is the essence? Brother, am not too bothered about them parading armed men in every public event they attend, its their choice as u rightly mentioned. But from my own perspective, I want to believe that men of God are supposed to be role models for human race which means that their followers can always emulate them for the good things they do (No perfect man anyway, so they have shortfalls). In a situation where someone like Baba Adeboye or Bishop Oyedepo does something that can be easily criticized, then u should imagine what will happen in the next few days to such action (Remix everywhere, both with good and bad intention... I hope u understand what I mean). Fine, we are talking about 'Faith Based' Organisation and someone needs to lead by example to show the faith, then who is showing it if Baba Adeboye is not doing that? I am not requesting Baba Adeboye to go and preach in Zambisa Forest (laffs) without adequate security, what am reflecting here is that Baba Adeboye should let every believer understands and rest assures that "God is the Only and Only competent Protector". Play out this scenario: If RCCG @ KM46, Lagos/Ibadan Expressway is being listed by BH for attack; it will be suicidal for him and his followers to say they dont need Battalions of Army (even when God sent Saul to war, he gave him the precise numbers of Army he will need to fight the war) in front of their Gate (even God will blame him). But as a Christian leader, and you want to go out for an occasion or probably crusade in a peaceful but rowdy place like Oshodi, me am seeing the act of going with Men with AK47 as a Show of Shame (just like the way it was displayed in that pix we saw). Gun kills bro, its better you consult God before your outing and hear an audible NOD of God b4 going for such occasion than to be causing this kind of discussion we are having here. The only convincing reason i can accept here is if you tell me its an instruction from God and not like; Its their personal choice or intent behind it. Happy Sunday Bro!

Ok i get your point, moderation is the key, they shoudn't over do it, (as regards that pis) the carrying of guns,considering the location they where was a little bit unecesssrary.


Happy sunday to you too Bro.