sinizia:


Pogba is our DM. I dont know which United you're watching. For now means from his Juventus hype till this minute, he's not worth 90m pounds. Let him prove he's worth it before I will take back my words. Cest fini.

How do you need the prove? 30goals? 50 assists? How?

UniqueGem:
Whichever you meant, the two options turned out to be a massive fail.

Your opinion not fact. Facts have it that Pogba has not played anything to suggest he's worth his price tag.

sinizia:


Your opinion not fact. Facts have it that Pogba has not played anything to suggest he's worth his price tag.

Facts must have it that we would be doing better with Sissoko. Abeg e don do, you have wasted my time enough.

UniqueGem:
How do you need the prove? 30goals? 50 assists? How?

Check the screenshot you posted.

UniqueGem:
Facts must have it that we would be doing better with Sissoko. Abeg e don do, you have wasted my time enough.

I was tired already coz you're not making any sense despite my explanation. Let's move on.

AdisaOwala:


Steven Gerrard was a selfless & industrious B2B Midfielder who even played virtually all positions at Liverpool

how's pogba different from Gerrard?? is he selfish? or does he tell you he won't play any position the gaffer wants him to play? Gerrard despite being industrious abi selfless still wasn't trusted by his gaffer to man de CM position.

, I really don't get the comparison with a lazy Pogba who is obsessed with attaining personal glory.

well some think they are similar, with pogba having superior technique, some think pogba is better than him, some still think pogba is fraud, any which way, none of dia respective opinions matters. his achievements are there for all to see.

Pogba might be technically better than Matuidi but if I need a Strong Midfield pivot Vs a top side, the tactically indiciplined Pogba would sit his black arsè on the bench....especially if I have an in-form #10.

still doesn't make your disciplined CM better than pogba.

weedtaker:
and bale??

Prior to his Real Madrid move, It coulda been argued that a Gareth Bale shouldn't be breaking the World transfer record but i dont think he should be compared to Pogba - the Welshman (at that young age) was arguably the hottest Foward in Europe at that time and the general consensus is that Goal scorers & assist specialists are known to cost a lot of money.

I need not remind you that Bale has literally justified every penny spent on him - despite an injury plagued debut season, he was still able help his club to a CL & domestic Cup double with pretty impressive numbers.... scoring & assisting vital goals for his side.

sinizia:


Instead of screaming Hian, break down the post and list one, just one wrong thing in that post. I'm waiting.

1st of all your template for even measuring the standard of which pogba should have aspired to is wrong in all its ramifications! Sissoko? A man that was struggling in midfield for an eventually relegated side? Those are the kind of performances you want in our midfield? No thanks...Then let's look at your theory about a 100 mil player always having to at least score 15 to 20 goals a season..that is pure balderdash!




In their prime how many goals were xavi, pirlo, Roy Keane or even Bastian scoring per season? We're they not at different times worth the same amount to their clubs? A midfielders job is not to score 15 to 20 goals a season, it is to assist the forward players in getting goals while also protecting the backline! Those that chip in with goals ala lampard, Gerard, Scholes or even toure are just a bonus based on natural talent and application, it's not a given right! Pogbas numbers have been good enough for a quality midfielder thru out all his time at juve...how many goals has your nigga SISSOKO SCORED OR ASSISTED in his entire career? ( do the forensics)....



By the way pogba still had a 5 year contract and is yet to hit his prime so was a valuable commodity to juve so how much did you think we would get him for? 5k? I don't know why you are all so pained over his fee but as for matching our ambitions pogba was the BEST and most reasonable acquisition man united could have made this summer!


Based on that YOUR POST you no try!

sinizia:


James was not worth his hype and purchase. It's not even up for debate.

ok o

Neymar not worth his price. Are you kidding me?

with the amount rumored to be involved in his transfer, his performance has not justified his price tag.

bale is worth it. Every dime of it. His stats and records proves it.

abeg list dem, i de wait.

WHILE Bale was punching above his weight to take his lowly rated team to Euro Semi-final,

shey ramsey no follow punch above him weight, if u ask some people seff, dem go tell you say, ramsey de more important to wales for de tourney. so no go there, even Greece push above dia weight nd won de euro,

Pogba was unarguably donning the disappearance robe of Last season's Hazard and disappearing in match estimate.

how did he disappeared? shey no be dm him play? what do you expect him to do, score 8goals with 7assist abi wetin , oya show me any match where france were dominated with pogba in the field

I'm not gonna continue on the back and forth,it's a waste of time as no party will agree with other. So let me reiterate my stance once again. Please screenshot it, share it and even carve it into a plaque and hang it in your room as a reminder.

1. Pogba is a good player but is not worth 90m pounds.
2. For that amount, he's a fraud, a massive one at that.
3. No DM for that matter presently is worth 90m. Better DMs like Casmeiro and Kante no even worth am talk more of Pogba.
4. For 90m pounds, I expect a Sissoko-esque Euro finals from a 90m pounds DM. 90m no be beans.
5. There's nothing Pogba has done extraordinarily in the past and currently to have him worth that amount. Vidal is better off being bought at that than Pogba.
6. Can Pogba go on to justify that amount? Yes, he has the time, and with the right attitude and determination, he can over-justify the price tag. He's physically strong and have the right mix to excel, but for now, he's nowhere there. But I pray he does, I dont hate him, just his attitude of seeking for fame instead of allowing his feet do the talking.


I rest my case.

weedtaker:
ok o
with the amount rumored to be involved in his transfer, his performance has not justified his price tag.
abeg list dem, i de wait. shey ramsey no follow punch above him weight, if u ask some people seff, dem go tell you say, ramsey de more important to wales for de tourney. so no go there, even Greece push above dia weight nd won de euro, how did he disappeared? shey no be dm him play? what do you expect him to do, score 8goals with 7assist abi wetin , oya show me any match were france was dominated with pogba in the field

I for like begin dissect this your post, but it's not worth it. Even you couldn't deny that alongside Ramsey, Bale surpassed expectations, while Pogba was literally a ghost for France. Let's end the matter, let me stick with my views, stick with yours. Pogba is worth it to you, to me, he's not till he proves it.

AdisaOwala:


Prior to his Real Madrid move, It coulda been argued that a Gareth Bale shouldn't be breaking the World transfer record but i dont think he should be compared to Pogba - the Welshman (at that young age) was arguably the hottest Foward in Europe at that time and the general consensus is that Goal scorers & assist specialists are known to cost a lot of money.

I need not remind you that Bale has literally justified every penny spent on him - despite an injury plagued debut season, he was still able help his club to a CL & domestic Cup double with pretty impressive numbers.... scoring & assisting vital goals for his side.

he hasn't justified anything, 2ucl 1copa der rey, no league title, for 85mil and he isn't de teams best player . ronaldo and suarez heck even neymar[49mil] didn't cost dat much and they have done much more.

sinizia:


I for like begin dissect this your post, but it's not worth it. Even you couldn't deny that alongside Ramsey, Bale surpassed expectations, while Pogba was literally a ghost for France. Let's end the matter, let me stick with my views, stick with yours. Pogba is worth it to you, to me, he's not till he proves it.

ogbeni dissect de post and shame me abeg

we need watch this Mikael Antonio fella for West Ham. that guy no too sabi but he keeps scoring e no matter were Bilic play am.

weedtaker:
how's pogba different from Gerrard?? is he selfish? or does he tell you he won't play any position the gaffer wants him to play?

If Pogba had one tenth of Gerrard's selfless attitude, a considerable percentage of Mourihno's woes would be over as we speak...

Last time I checked, Gerrard never whined like a fat bìtch about his supposed best position....neither did he hide behind the skirts of his agent to chat nonsense!

weedtaker:

Gerrard despite being industrious abi selfless still wasn't trusted by his gaffer to man de CM position. well some think they are similar, with pogba having superior technique, some think pogba is better than him, some still think pogba is fraud, any which way, none of dia respective opinions matters. his achievements are there for all to see.

Pogba isn't fit to lace the shoes of Gerrard
at his peak...both as a CMF and as an AMF!!

I wouldn't even do this!

What is the point of all these sef? Why are you people looking for what is not lost?
So some one saying he wants a player to perform the way Sissoko performed in Euro Final now means that that the person wants Sissoko himself?

Sinizia please leave these our brothers, there is nothing you can say to pacify them cos e be like say they get you for mind

sinizia:




If Fatso starts and Mata and Mhiki must start too, then Mourinho has to go with the same formation he used against Fenerbache.

But guys, don't you see we badly need a quality winger especially seeing we've none presently? Our counter-attacks died or terribly dipped with the departure of CR7 and Co. It's no coincidence that the likes of Barca, Madrid and Bayern have had lethal and exciting wingers in recent years who formed deadly partnerships that have catapulted them to glory.

Barca has Neymar and Messi flanking Suarez.
Madrid with Ororo and Bale.
Bayern with Robben and Ribery.

When these set of deadly flying wingers are on the pitch, they stretch their opponents, wear them out and have their opponents doubling up to contain them. United have none. Martial is terrible this season.

Pacy winger like Valencia has zero skills to destroy an opponent one-on-one. Good and skillful wingers are the architect of most counter-attacks. They make runs to start off the counter-attacks. A good example is CR7's third goal for Madrid against Athletico. See the way Bale made a run and Isco instinctively whipped the ball to him and he ran with the ball all the way into the 18-yard box of Atletico before squaring for Ororo who also matched his pace to be there on time to bury the chance. Now imagine if Rooney or Mata was Bale. They will just take one step and then turn around and kill a counter-attack that could have resulted in a goal. I doubt that apart from Martial, there's any other United winger that could successfully skin a full-back alive in a one-on-one position. Our attacks have dipped with our lack of quality wingers. Lingard with all his pace has little intelligence to beat opponents with it.

If I was made the United coach today, a Robben-esque winger along with a top striker will be my first priority.

I get your point but all I'm saying is; we shouldn't start Lingard or go about chasing any body that believes he is a winger for the sake of it, bar the quality of players you highlighted above, I don't see any quality winger around who is half as good as the guys you mentioned. If you're made the coach today, you'd be limited to the quality of guys like Carrasco, Mahrez, D. Costa etc

AdisaOwala:

If Pogba had one tenth of Gerrard's selfless attitude, a considerable percentage of Mourihno's woes would be over as we speak...

just like he solved Liverpool and England woes abi?

Last time I checked, Gerrard never whined like a fat bìtch about his supposed best position....neither did he hide behind the skirts of his agent to chat nonsense!

and your point?

Pogba isn't fit to lace the shoes of Gerrard
at his peak...both as a CMF and as an AMF!!
I wouldn't even do this!

well, he's already won 4league titles, golden boi award, Young best player at de world cup, fifapro Xi. and placed 10th on the balon d or list, yet omo boi never peak yet, so Wait till pogboom peak b4 you begin compare.

Funlordjnr:



1st of all your template for even measuring the standard of which pogba should have aspired to is wrong in all its ramifications! Sissoko? A man that was struggling in midfield for an eventually relegated side? Those are the kind of performances you want in our midfield? No thanks...Then let's look at your theory about a 100 mil player always having to at least score 15 to 20 goals a season..that is pure balderdash!

I'll attend to this part of your post and leave the remaining to the future to prove me wrong or right.

1. The template i used is right in all ramifications. I don't see the reason a DM should cost more than Ororo and all he has to do is to shield the defense, when with that amount you can get a Coqeulin for 25mil and he'll do a better job. Pogba had something extra that people saw him and he's yet to prove it. And you saying I shouldn't include goals in my assessment of Pogba is funny. Those on this thread that were pro-Pogba were reeling out his goals and assists as the reasons why he's worth that much. And they are right. Or you think of Pogba was the typical Makelele and Coqeulin DM, clubs will be willing to pay such an amount for him? What made Pogba such a hot property were his goals, assists, dribbles, ability to help out in attacks.if it was just to shield the defense, he's won't be chased all over the place. So why shouldn't I talk about his goals and assists? Take away that and he's just ordinary.


2. I don't know how to keep explaining this. I was just citing an example. It's about the performance not the player. How come out of all the time I've watched Sissoko I can point out one solid performance from him? Even wack players sometimes have epic moments attached to their names. It doesn't mean Sissoko is better than Pogba or that I rate Sissoko highly.

afrodoc2:

What is the point of all these sef? Why are you people looking for what is not lost?
So some one saying he wants a player to perform the way Sissoko performed in Euro Final now means that that the person wants Sissoko himself?

Sinizia please leave these our brothers, there is nothing you can say to pacify them cos e be like say they get you for mind

I'm done. I'm already tired. Make I face today's match. Hopefully these lads will win emphatically today.

weedtaker:
ok how did he disappeared? shey no be dm him play? what do you expect him to do, score 8goals with 7assist abi wetin , oya show me any match where france were dominated with pogba in the field

If only you brought this epistle to those that justified Pogba's price tag based on his goals and assists. Even football pundits were busy listing his assists and goals. Suddenly Pogba is not living up to the hype and the hypocrisy comes forth. Awon Pogba defenders, I hail o. Lmao. Make we move on.

sinizia:


I'll attend to this part of your post and leave the remaining to the future to prove me wrong or right.

1. The template i used is right in all ramifications. I don't see the reason a DM should cost more than Ororo and all he has to do is to shield the defense, when with that amount you can get a Coqeulin for 25mil and he'll do a better job. Pogba had something extra that people saw him and he's yet to prove it. And you saying I shouldn't include goals in my assessment of Pogba is funny. Those on this thread that were pro-Pogba were reeling out his goals and assists as the reasons why he's worth that much. And they are right. Or you think of Pogba was the typical Makelele and Coqeulin DM, clubs will be willing to pay such an amount for him? What made Pogba such a hot property were his goals, assists, dribbles, ability to help out in attacks.if it was just to shield the defense, he's won't be chased all over the place. So why shouldn't I talk about his goals and assists? Take away that and he's just ordinary.


2. I don't know how to keep explaining this. I was just citing an example. It's about the performance not the player. How come out of all the time I've watched Sissoko I can point out one solid performance from him? Even wack players sometimes have epic moments attached to their names. It doesn't mean Sissoko is better than Pogba or that I rate Sissoko highly.

No wahala....let us allow this pogba guy build his career 1st....i've always liked him because back when I used to subscribe to mutv and I used to watch him in the juniors I liked what I always saw.....he is quality.. I was very unhappy when he left and I never believed he would be back....i even said it here but when he came back I was impressed! He is not only about the cash but this guy has a point to prove! He won't do much this season but I have hopes that the guy would lead us places....its his world and we are only passing through it!



Pogba is the man and I hang my hat on the guys rep!

weedtaker:
just like he solved Liverpool and England woes abi?

I repeat, if Pogba had a tenth of Gerrard's selflessness, commitment & drive (important qualities expected of a B2B midfielder), Mourihno would have less to worry about!

weedtaker:

and your point?

I had to put it to you that "attitude" should never crop up in a Gerrard / Pogba comparison (which is even an insult to the Englishman anyways)

weedtaker:

well, he's already won 4league titles, golden boi award, Young best player at de world cup, fifapro Xi. and placed 10th on the balon d or list, yet omo boi never peak yet, so Wait till pogboom peak b4 you begin compare.

No be you involve Gerard for the matter?

You shoulda waited for Pogba to peak before using Gerrard as case study.

As things are, Gerrard is Pogba's Grandfather!!!

weedtaker:
he hasn't justified anything, 2ucl 1copa der rey, no league title, for 85mil and he isn't de teams best player . ronaldo and suarez heck even neymar[4919.3mil] didn't cost dat much and they have done much more.

Not joining the argument,just clearing something.

Make una continue.

Funlordjnr:





No wahala....let us allow this pogba guy build his career 1st....i've always liked him because back when I used to subscribe to mutv and I used to watch him in the juniors I liked what I always saw.....he is quality.. I was very unhappy when he left and I never believed he would be back....i even said it here but when he came back I was impressed! He is not only about the cash but this guy has a point to prove! He won't do much this season but I have hopes that the guy would lead us places....its his world and we are only passing through it!



Pogba is the man and I hang my hat on the guys rep!

I pray he comes good. I really want the dude to succeed especially judging from the fact that people still mock us with Depay and Maria. Pogba is good and I pray he achieves his peak playing for us.

sinizia:


If only you brought this epistle to those that justified Pogba's price tag based on his goals and assists. Even football pundits were busy listing his assists and goals. Suddenly Pogba is not living up to the hype and the hypocrisy comes forth. Awon Pogba defenders, I hail o. Lmao. Make we move on.

oga i de talk about euro, you de yarn another thing, pogba is not a DM, he's a CM and as a CM he has good numbers in terms of GOAL+ASSIST, apart from iniesta in [LCM] role, i dare you bring forth any player whose output beats that of pogba.

Brethren, Pogba's case should be adjourned till end of season !

The price tag is just the rope some fellas tryna use and hang the boy. (Caveat : he'll never justify that price,he's not a forward)

Mine is some of his needless attitude on the pitch.(annoys me to the bone).

In all I think we all want him to succeed here.

Make una rest abeg!!!

United Fans This Season After Jose Mourinho's Appointment



July: We will win the league.
August: We can win the league.
September: Can we win the league?
October: We can finish top 4.
November: Can we finish top 4?
December:

weedtaker:
oga i de talk about euro, you de yarn another thing, pogba is not a DM, he's a CM and as a CM he has good numbers in terms of GOAL+ASSIST, apart from iniesta in [LCM] role, i dare you bring forth any player whose output beats that of pogba.

"Yaya toure >>>>>>>Scholes+Xavi" Alert!

bykebyke:

Not joining the argument,just clearing something.

Make una continue.

E be like you no well, no be only 19.3mil ..... your club pulled one of the most fraudulent transfer ever with Neymar..

Fraud Club de Barcelona!

Spy360:
[s]United Fans This Season After Jose Mourinho's Appointment



July: We will win the league.
August: We can win the league.
September: Can we win the league?
October: We can finish top 4.
November: Can we finish top 4?
December: [/s]

elrony:


E be like you no well, no be only 19.3mil ..... your club pulled one of the most fraudulent transfer ever with Neymar..

Fraud Club de Barcelona!

Stay there na.