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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:54pm On Nov 28, 2016
Look at what I found
http://listsurge.com/top-10-countries-poor-sanitation-facilities/

4. Nigeria (103 million)

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Nigeria is one of the African countries where the word “sanitation” is non-existent. With over two-third of the total population with no sanitation facilities, Nigeria is horribly suffering from poverty, poor hygiene and lack of medical attention. Moreover, the government doesn’t prioritize sanitation even though the country is facing serious health related issues. In Nigeria, the need of clean water is understood but, it is not the case with sanitation as it is widely ignored. Due to gaps in sanitation infrastructures, the common population can only dream of simple facilities like toilets. Though many steps have been taken by the United Nations to improve the condition of Nigeria but, the results are not very encouraging.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 5:55pm On Nov 28, 2016
LightYagami:
There are no legit dollar billionaires in KEnya, yet
But the corrupt guys are worth some few billion dollara, the likes of Moi, Kamlesh Patni, Kenyatta, just to name a few, but as you know, Forbes cannot rank them

If we go by that Nigerians will be far above South Africa with more millionaires and billionaires.

It seems you forgot Nigerians corruption cases.

Billions of naira are still in banks with no one to claim them after we started using Bank verification numbers.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 5:59pm On Nov 28, 2016
LightYagami:
Look at what I found
http://listsurge.com/top-10-countries-poor-sanitation-facilities/

4. Nigeria (103 million)

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Nigeria is one of the African countries where the word “sanitation” is non-existent. With over two-third of the total population with no sanitation facilities, Nigeria is horribly suffering from poverty, poor hygiene and lack of medical attention. Moreover, the government doesn’t prioritize sanitation even though the country is facing serious health related issues. In Nigeria, the need of clean water is understood but, it is not the case with sanitation as it is widely ignored. Due to gaps in sanitation infrastructures, the common population can only dream of simple facilities like toilets. Though many steps have been taken by the United Nations to improve the condition of Nigeria but, the results are not very encouraging.

Do you really want to go down that lane? Am telling you cause you will regret. You guys have been attacking while we were defending ourselves. If we attack you you will not like this thread again.

Kenyans with bad news are brothers.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:59pm On Nov 28, 2016
iblawi:


So why the comparison in the first place? When you know we have everything in excess.

We surpass you in almost everything so why compare us. Look for your mate.

Your population is almost 5 times that of Kenya I expect the millionaire's to be 5times also btw S.A has 48,000 $millionaire's with a population of 50million ppl.

What ashamed to the giant of Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:00pm On Nov 28, 2016
chebeoc:
Jay254


My friend of only Lagos state have 15,000 dolllar millionaires not the entire country.

Source please
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:00pm On Nov 28, 2016
Jay254:


Your population is almost 5 times that of Kenya I expect the millionaire's to be 5times also btw S.A has 48,000 $millionaire's with a population of 50million ppl.

What ashamed to the giant of Africa.

Yes, that's because many Nigerians don't declared their worth.

Nigerian even keep millions of dollars at home.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 6:03pm On Nov 28, 2016
These Kenyans must think too highly of themselves to compare themselves with Nigeria. Nigeria with all her problems rn is still far ahead of Kenya.
Someone dares question the reliability of Nigerian economic data? Feed on this article from Financial Times please.


https://www.ft.com/content/4e5cd834-75ea-11e6-bf48-b372cdb1043a?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C2190726002

[b]I don't know why I have to educate these Kenyans on the meaning of the big figures that make the Nigerian economy so big. Like, check the telecom sector. That is a multi billion dollar industry that cannot be matched by Kenya in 20years. Foreign telcos as well as a Nigerian telco are doing well. Glo is the second biggest after MTN and we know MTN had the first start.

Tourism. You think that ends with visiting parks and natural features? Their is business tourism. The number of high end hotels in Nigeria and their networth is far bigger than Kenyas.

Yes Oil and gas is a major contributor to the big figures and this is almost completely lacking in Kenya. Yet you question the figures?

The Nigerian Stock Exchange is the second most capitalized in dollar terms on the continent after South Africa. Nigerian banks have a bigger composite worth than their Kenyan counterpart. How many Kenyan banks sponsor multinational events on the continent? Yet you wonder why Nigeria is so big?

Nollywood for the first contributed more than 1% of the GDP. By simple arithmetic, that makes it a multi billion dollar industry. Second to none on the continent.

I saw some yapping about their ports being busier than Nigerian ports. The question is, what is the value of goods passing through these ports, not just the volume. Think about the number of cars alone for instance that are on Nigerian roads most of which were imported. The import is a cost and Nigerians effectively pay for these vehicles. What does that tell you about the sum purchasing power of the country? That is not to demean the importance of local production which Nigeria has been doing quite good in since the last administration.

Trade and Commerce. This is not even an area we should go into. As a matter of fact, it is always still thought that Nigerian economy is still underestimated. Why? There is so much informal commercial activities going on that are not properly documented. Kenya may have a higher penetration of formal trade cuz of their small size but total volume and value of trade in Lagos alone will easily undermine what is done in the whole Kenya.

I could go on and on. So if you are going to query Nigeria's big economy, you will have to question the IMF and World Bank representatives too knowing that the figures are not cooked up in isolation, anywhere in the world. [/b]
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:04pm On Nov 28, 2016
iblawi:


Yes, that's because many Nigerians don't declared their worth.

Nigerian even keep millions of dollars at home.
would you kindly support that with a link, any link, if you dont mind
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 6:12pm On Nov 28, 2016
South Africa has more millionaires than Nigeria but at the end of the day, Nigeria still has more money (or assets if you like to think about it that way) in her economy than South Africa if you really understand the meaning of a bigger GDP.
The implication is, if you discount infrastructural setbacks and bottleneck bureaucracy, Nigeria offers a higher return on investment than South Africa. So what's y'alls point again?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:15pm On Nov 28, 2016
iblawi:
That means you have no billionaire in the whole of kenya.

This is astupid argument... Which country is better a country of 100 Billionaires and a hundreds million poor ppl.

I would wish to leave in a country with no Billionaire but with no poor ppl. I know Africa is far from this but our mind has been white washed with few major govt projects and forget the loot they have done.

Was just reading some where that the oil mined in Nigeria since 1956 is same as the Brazilian GDP but we know the reality... Was watching the ppl leaving around Nija Delta it's apitty to be imagine the conditions of life they leave

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:15pm On Nov 28, 2016
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:17pm On Nov 28, 2016
iblawi:


Yes, that's because many Nigerians don't declared their worth.

Nigerian even keep millions of dollars at home.

Who told you is different in kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:20pm On Nov 28, 2016
Jay254:


Who told you is different in kenya

Your politicians don't have the kind of money ours steal.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 6:22pm On Nov 28, 2016
Jay254:


Welcome MPSA, am using my holiday Leave to educate our brothers from the West.

Okay Brother grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:27pm On Nov 28, 2016
iblawi:


Yes, that's because many Nigerians don't declared their worth.

Nigerian even keep millions of dollars at home.
Ofcourse how will your corrupt polithiefians hide the loot in order to avoid paper trail & bureaucracy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:29pm On Nov 28, 2016
Boyedex:
South Africa has more millionaires than Nigeria but at the end of the day, Nigeria still has more money (or assets if you like to think about it that way) in her economy than South Africa if you really understand the meaning of a bigger GDP.
The implication is, if you discount infrastructural setbacks and bottleneck bureaucracy, Nigeria offers a higher return on investment than South Africa. So what's y'alls point again?

Thank you but they won't still understand except you explain further. They are so dull and think the rest of the world is dull too. If the size of our GDP is smaller than that south African companies won't get the kind of money the get from Nigeria. South Africans wouldn't have accepted Nigerian economy was larger than theirs.

Why do you think more Nigerians are now investing in Nigeria? Because the discovered the true power of the country.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:32pm On Nov 28, 2016
Kenyanstar:

Ofcourse how will your corrupt polithiefians hide the loot in order to avoid paper trail & bureaucracy.

Go do your research if you are information literate you will know it's a culture in Nigeria for politician.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 6:33pm On Nov 28, 2016
Knysna South Africa grin Swim,swim...SA grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 6:48pm On Nov 28, 2016
The ''giant'' is always sleeping, grin No ''giant'' anymore grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:55pm On Nov 28, 2016
ProudlyKenyan:
I gave you short list.
1) KENOL KOBIL - Second largest Sub-Saharan multinational - cornered oil downstream business in 12 countries- we don't produce any oil oga.
2) KENYA AIRWAYS - Fourth Largest Airline in Africa - after SouthAfrica Airways, Ethiopia Airways, EgyptAir
3) KENYA Commercial Bank - Highest rate of returns in Afria
4) Equity Bank - Most profitable multinational bank in Africa with branches in east and great lakes africa.
5) Britam Insurance
6) Nakumart - This one reason you'll never see shoprite or massmart in kenya - with branches in east africa.
7) Tusky
cool Brookside
9) Jubilee Insurance
10) Serana Hotels
11) Hass Petroleum
12) BIDCO
13) EABL
--and lot more

sawa u own all these right
BIDCO- Bhimji Depar Shah(Indian)
Hass Petroleum:Abdinasir Cali Dheere Somalis
Serena Hotels-Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED),(95%) Indians and Pakistanis
Jubilee Insurance : Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED). Indians and Pakistanis
Brook side: jomo Kenyatta Family (corruption)
Tusky: dead supermarket
Nakumart : Indians

belive me when i say real Kenyans don own shit!, i know Kenya in and out

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by highheybee: 7:03pm On Nov 28, 2016
Kenyanstar:



Seems you couldn't comprehend as simple sentence.... billionaires in dollars not millionaires in dollars...seem they got none wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by highheybee: 7:10pm On Nov 28, 2016
Jay254:


This is astupid argument... Which country is better a country of 100 Billionaires and a hundreds million poor ppl.

I would wish to leave in a country with no Billionaire but with no poor ppl. I know Africa is far from this but our mind has been white washed with few major govt projects and forget the loot they have done.

Was just reading some where that the oil mined in Nigeria since 1956 is same as the Brazilian GDP but we know the reality... Was watching the ppl leaving around Nija Delta it's apitty to be imagine the conditions of life they leave


Shut up your mouth...will us having higher number of billionaires and you having less...it till results in we having a higher gdp per capita.... so whatyasaying
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 7:12pm On Nov 28, 2016
Guy you very funny only house girls watch nigerian movies is that why Kenyan TV stations only show naija content why can't you guys produce your own programmes to entertain your jobless housewives. Well unlike Congo when our musicians go for concerts all over Africa we shut things down. Let your wife/girlfriend hear davido is coming to Nairobi she will sell your car to buy a ticket to see him. I mentioned dangote just to let you know he's one of many nigerian business people doing great things. IT is another emerging industry which mark Zuckerberg acknowledged by coming twice to nigeria. Like I said earlier I know nigeria has a lot of improving to do which I've been man enough to acknowledge it unlike you pretending Kenya is all cool and shiitt whereas we know you have a huge poverty problem if not you guys wouldn't have Africa's biggest slums



ProudlyKenyan:
Dangote everyone knows. Perhaps only genuine business I respect out of Naija. The banks were forced to merge to create big banks. They are not doing half as what Kenya is doing. If we merged out 45 kenyans banks to 15 banks - we will create big naija like banks - but our banking industry will be poorer. There is space for small innovative banks, mobile banks, online banks and cooperative - the whole intermediation & financial value chain.

Now to entertainment. This is funny bit about Naija GDP grin grin. You said Irokotv has largest online movie. Who watch Naija movies - except house girls in kenya smiley People are watching Netflix. No respectable kenyan can be found dead watching those witchcraft igbo movies...except bored house-girls - and certainly nobody pays for it. As for music - Congo must be largest africa economy - with all their lingala music smiley smiley -really nigga.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:15pm On Nov 28, 2016
Can you ever get a billionaire in a six billion dollar economy?

The person will need a lot of political influence to suppress others.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:18pm On Nov 28, 2016
68816419:

sawa u own all these right
BIDCO- Bhimji Depar Shah(Indian)
Hass Petroleum:Abdinasir Cali Dheere Somalis
Serena Hotels-Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED),(95%) Indians and Pakistanis
Jubilee Insurance : Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED). Indians and Pakistanis
Brook side: jomo Kenyatta Family (corruption)
Tusky: dead supermarket
Nakumart : Indians

belive me when i say real Kenyans don own shit!, i know Kenya in and out
Bhimji is not an Indian citizen but a Kenyan citiizen, Kenyan Asian
Abdinasir is Kenyan, Somalis are indeginous to North Eastern Province Kenya
Nakumatt, yes, Indians but they are not foreigners, they have been in Kenya for generations. Brought here by the British government

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 7:21pm On Nov 28, 2016
This thread has really gone a long way.
Seriously i wish we Africans would have been able to channel all this energy we use to argue against and hate each other online into more productive discussions and thinking rather than trying to see who is better than the other.
At the end of the day, the Europeans and Asians still see all we Sub-saharan Africans as the same black people.

Am a Nigerian, but if i see another Black African country doing well, i really feel happy and take pride in them and wish we could all help each other and grow together. At least, we should be able to compare with the powerful European, Arab and Asian countries before we start claiming one thing or the other.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ianSweet(f): 7:24pm On Nov 28, 2016
Kenya has their own weakness and strength, Nigeria has it's too, even the South Africa that seems like the most Advanced African country have their own challenges too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:30pm On Nov 28, 2016
ianSweet:
Kenya has their own weakness and strength, Nigeria has it's too, even the South Africa that seems like the most Advanced African country have their own challenges too.

All this I've explained to them but the keep claiming Kenya is better than Nigeria because some Nigerians refuse to come back to Nigeria. This ignorant Kenyans don't know that many Nigerians are in Benin republic and Togo that refuse to come back too. Does that make them better than Nigeria too?

As a Nigerian I prefer to stay in Ibadan, Abuja or some other states than to stay in Lagos not because Ibadan and others are better off.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 7:35pm On Nov 28, 2016
Kenyans please understand this point, we love all our African brothers, is only in Nigeria u come as a black man and no body ask you to show any form of identification same can not be said with your extremely corrupt police who have turned Nigerians and Somalis to ATM machines , we preferred u guys to the whites and Asians and i still can understand why Kenyans hate Nigerians so much, Nigerians and Kenyans are not in the-same league, Kenya is a very poor country , a country where only politicians leaves well, Kenya have very bad infrastructure,no roads(only at CBD) , Why keep clamoring on CBD, a place developed and manage by white British and Indians.?
and how comes this topic is allowed to reach this level,why would Kenya of all countries compare it self with Nigeria?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:37pm On Nov 28, 2016
68816419:

sawa u own all these right
BIDCO- Bhimji Depar Shah(Indian)
Hass Petroleum:Abdinasir Cali Dheere Somalis
Serena Hotels-Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED),(95%) Indians and Pakistanis
Jubilee Insurance : Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development (AKFED). Indians and Pakistanis
Brook side: jomo Kenyatta Family (corruption)
Tusky: dead supermarket
Nakumart : Indians

belive me when i say real Kenyans don own shit!, i know Kenya in and out
And Tuskys is not dead
And not all Kenyans are black, there are other races here too, so, those Indians are KEnyan
When I was in primary school I was taught KEnya has the following language groups
1. Bantu(Kikuyu, Kamba, Taita, Swahili etc)
2. Nilotes(Luo, Masai, Kalenjin etc)
3. Cushites(Somalis, Oromos, Rendilles etc
4 Semitic(though very few, there are some Arabs mainly from Yemen)
Those groups have been in Kenya for centuries. So if you see a Somali guy in Kenya he is probably a native though some come from Somalia and are naturalised citizens
5. Indians. The British brought them to Kenya as railway workers, late 1800s, some never left. And those Indians you see are, Kenyan Asians, not Indian citizens.
6. Whites. Most are from the colonial stock who never left the country, they have kenyan citizenship. Then there are a few former Zimbabwe whites settled here. Then there are some Italians, mainly in MAlindi, some town which also has a nickname(Little Italy)
Or you believe you must be black to be African?? The French national team is full of Black Frenchmen. Same case here, we have blacks, asians etc

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:40pm On Nov 28, 2016
68816419:
Kenyans please understand this point, we love all our African brothers, is only in Nigeria u come as a black man and no body ask you to show any form of identification same can not be said with your extremely corrupt police who have turned Nigerians and Somalis to ATM machines , we preferred u guys to the whites and Asians and i still can understand why Kenyans hate Nigerians so much, Nigerians and Kenyans are not in the-same league, Kenya is a very poor country , a country where only politicians leaves well, Kenya have very bad infrastructure,no roads(only at CBD) , Why keep clamoring on CBD, a place developed and manage by white British and Indians.?
and how comes this topic is allowed to reach this level,why would Kenya of all countries compare it self with Nigeria?
Swimming pool in kenya for politician and big girls.

http://towncrieronline.net/2016/11/24/top-kenyan-politician-caught-unclad-with-lover-in-a-viral-photo/

Someone keep asking me why Nigeria is better than Kenya.

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