I have come across this comment made by African atheist several times..../ the white man sold lies to you by giving you religion which claim there is a creator (God) of all things and you accepted it. they even accused the believers for not having sense of reasoning. but this same white man brought education to them which also claim there is no creator (God) they accept it and claim they have brain. and i Wonder where there brain is located.if the white man has given you reasons trough scientific findings that there is no God..which by instincts, your ancestors never accepted. and the same white man gave me the bible to understand better what my ancestors already knew by instincts there are gods which of this two shows the presence of sense of reasoning? our ancestors already knew there is the supernatural even before the coming of the white mans religion..they never accepted to be dependent on there brains,but instincts showed them the presence of the supernatural.that is why they had different traditional gods.everything an atheist claim to know about the non existance of God comes from the same white man he accuses the African religious man of learning from. religious text's were written thousands of years before the first foolish man who will letter spread atheist ignorance came to exist. the bible has its first verse ..Gen 1:1..in the begin God created the heaven and the earth.. note:-(God is the course) because he is an external force as it is..but no atheist texts has ever started with the beginning of creations.. they must prove its non inspirational.. by talking a lot of nonsense b/4 they jump to the middle were matter and energy created all things. the same set of creatures would agreed to the law of course and effect but there brains will reformat within a second and they will come up with another theory that matter and energy defile the law of course and effect.I still ask there brain location.. ..hypocrisy... hypocrisy.. and need of brain cleanser..

SMH. You need to learn to write coherently. Then you can be taken seriously.

UyiIredi:
SMH. You need to learn to write coherently. Then you can be taken seriously.

..I know there is no way you and your fellow Satan prisoners will want to be here..we are not here for academic relevance...the message is clear ,if you know its one of those no go areas for you,why not zoom off already ...

Dont mind those hypocrites.

Africa was never atheistic even when we were world powers.

I dont know why they keep saying white men brought religion.
Really.

felixomor:
Dont mind those hypocrites.

Africa was never atheistic even when we were world powers.

I dont know why they keep saying white men brought religion.
Really.

Atheism has never been a natural state in humans - this explains its extreme low retention rate . God created man with the propensity to seek knowledge of Him .

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism has never been a natural state in humans - this explains its extreme low retention rate . God created man with the propensity to seek knowledge of Him .

Can you define God please?

Ever heard of paragraphs OP?

Christianity was imported into Africa by Europeans, while Islam was imported by Arabs. Atheism is the natural state of man - everyone was born an atheist. As a child progress through life, ignorant adults start telling them tales by moonlight aka 'God', 'demons' 'Satan' etc. Its that simple and straight forward - no need to complicate the issue.

ever811:
I have come across this comment made by African atheist several times..../ the white man sold lies to you by giving you religion which claim there is a creator (God) of all things and you accepted it. they even accused the believers for not having sense of reasoning. but this same white man brought education to them which also claim there is no creator (God) they accept it and claim they have brain. and i Wonder where there brain is located.if the white man has given you reasons trough scientific findings that there is no God..which by instincts, your ancestors never accepted. and the same white man gave me the bible to understand better what my ancestors already knew by instincts there are gods which of this two shows the presence of sense of reasoning? our ancestors already knew there is the supernatural even before the coming of the white mans religion..they never accepted to be dependent on there brains,but instincts showed them the presence of the supernatural.that is why they had different traditional gods.everything an atheist claim to know about the non existance of God comes from the same white man he accuses the African religious man of learning from. religious text's were written thousands of years before the first foolish man who will letter spread atheist ignorance came to exist. the bible has its first verse ..Gen 1:1..in the begin God created the heaven and the earth.. note:-(God is the course) because he is an external force as it is..but no atheist texts has ever started with the beginning of creations.. they must prove its non inspirational.. by talking a lot of nonsense b/4 they jump to the middle were matter and energy created all things. the same set of creatures would agreed to the law of course and effect but there brains will reformat within a second and they will come up with another theory that matter and energy defile the law of course and effect.I still ask there brain location.. ..hypocrisy... hypocrisy.. and need of brain cleanser..

But you are still a christian who believes that the white man's god died for you. Are you not a hypocrite as well? You are quoting from Genesis,the same book that encouraged the enslavement of your ancestors. Kettle calling the pot black!

AkinPhysicist:
Christianity was imported into Africa by Europeans, while Islam was imported by Arabs. Atheism is the natural state of man - everyone was born an atheist. As a child progress through life, ignorant adults start telling them tales by moonlight aka 'God', 'demons' 'Satan' etc. Its that simple and straight forward - no need to complicate the issue.

Babies are not atheists .

KingEbukasBlog:

Bro , I kept reiterating that babies don't need labels - theist , agnostic , atheist , deist , pantheist - because they lack the ability to believe , hold opinions etc . All these theological and philosophical propositions on God are beliefs , and since babies don't have the ability to believe (conscious explicit acceptance ) and are born with a tabula rasa then they are none of those .

They don't need labels !!!

ifenes:


Can you define God please?

A transcendent separate conscious being who created the universe .

KingEbukasBlog:


A transcendent separate conscious being who created the universe .

Why is it separate?

KingEbukasBlog:


Babies are not atheists .

Babies are atheists otherwise they would not need to be CONVERTED to religion.

AkinPhysicist:


Babies are atheists otherwise they would not need to be CONVERTED to religion.

What about the Buddhist and Deist ?

The Buddhist is an atheist in Religion and the Deist is a believer in God without Religion . So come again ?

KingEbukasBlog:


What about the Buddhist and Deist ?

The Buddhist is an atheist in Religion and the Deist is a believer in God without Religion . So come again ?

Explain yourself - what are you saying? Are saying that because Buddhist and Deist exist then babies are not atheists?

ifenes:


Why is it separate?

Because It is an entity

KingEbukasBlog:


Because It is an entity

An Entity? How did it come about?

Your answer should be as fast as my question,except you are looking up the internet for answers.

AkinPhysicist:


Explain yourself - what are you saying? Are saying that because Buddhist and Deist exist then babies are not atheists?

1. Buddhism is a religion that do not believe in a deity while deism acknowledges the existence of God but rejects religion . So your statement that conversion to religion makes you believe in God is wrong .

2. Atheism requires belief , and babies can't have beliefs or hold opinions since they are born with a tabula rasa or clean slate .

3. Even if the God idea is not introduced to the baby . As he grows , he can through inductive reasoning - personal observation -conclude that a creator (God) exists .

ifenes:


An Entity? How did it come about?

It has always existed .

KingEbukasBlog:


It has always existed .

How did you know?

ifenes:
Your answer should be as fast as my question,except you are looking up the internet for answers.

I'm watching movie trailers on Youtube . I wasn't expecting a quick reply .

ifenes:


How did you know?

Since the universe has a beginning and a cause it must have a creator . And this creator is eternal or else it would progress into infinite regression which is very illogical .

KingEbukasBlog:


Since the universe has a beginning and a cause it must have a creator . And this creator is eternal or else it would progress into infinite regression which is very illogical .

What is the meaning of "Being"?

ifenes:


What is the meaning of "Being"?

I hope this is not going where I think it is going . You are trying to view God as some kind of formless force who exists outside space and time .

Being is used to address entities or could mean existence .

KingEbukasBlog:

1. Buddhism is a religion that do not believe in a deity while deism acknowledges the existence of God but rejects religion . So your statement that conversion to religion makes you believe in God is wrong .

Buddhism is not atheism - Atheists do not believe in spirits, Buddhist do. Atheists do not believe in re-incarnation, Buddhists do. Many Christians say Christianity is not a religion but yet people have to convert to Christianity - so this is nothing but semantics.

KingEbukasBlog:

2. Atheism requires belief , and babies can't have beliefs or hold opinions since they are born with a tabula rasa or clean slate .

Atheism does not require ANY belief. Atheists do not see any reason to change the natural human state of atheism. Those who became atheist after accepting belief in God decided that the natural state is best.

KingEbukasBlog:

3. Even if the God idea is not introduced to the baby . As he grows , he can through inductive reasoning through personal observation conclude that a creator (God) exists .

Reasoning done without bias will take you back to the natural state- which is atheism. Faith (Not reason) is key to religion. For example, no amount of reasoning will make you accept the concept of a 'talking' donkey. I can give other examples but I assume you get my point already.

KingEbukasBlog:


I hope this is not going where I think is going . You are trying to view God as some kind of formless force who exists outside space and time .

Being is used to address entities or could mean existence .

What are you scared of?

If Being means Entities or Existence, what would you call a Human-Being? Mind you,you have already said God is an entity.

AkinPhysicist:

Buddhism is not atheism - Atheists do not believe in spirits, Buddhist do. Atheists do not believe in re-incarnation, Buddhists do. Many Christians say Christianity is not a religion but yet people have to convert to Christianity - so this is nothing but semantics. -

Ifenes , this guy says atheists do not believe in reincarnation . Atheism is simply the belief there is no god . You can hold whatever beliefs you want . Confucianism is a religion without deists and they venerate ancestral spirits . Confucians can be Atheists

Atheism does not require ANY belief. Atheists do not see any reason to change the natural human state of atheism. Those who became atheist after accepting belief in God decided that the natural state is best.

"There is no God" is a declaration showing omniscience . Have you embarked on a peregrination to all possible dimensions , outside the universe to ascertain there is no God ? The answer is no . So its a belief .

Reasoning done without bias will take you back to the natural state- which is atheism. Faith (Not reason) is key to religion. For example, no amount of reasoning will make you accept the concept of a 'talking' donkey. I can give other examples but I assume you get my point already.

Atheism is not a natural state . If it were everyone would quickly dump religion instead atheism has the lowest retention rate in the world . The deists acknowledge the existence of God through Reason , Nature and Science .

There is God without Religion , and There is Religion without God .

ifenes:


What are you scared of?

If Being means Entities or Existence, what would you call a Human-Being? Mind you,you have already said God is an entity.

Humans are entities because they can function independently . I have my body and so do you !

ifenes my laptop battery is now 18 percent . Answer fast na

KingEbukasBlog:


Humans are entities because they can function independently . I have my body and so do you !

God an entity,Humans are entities who function independently,according to you. So what makes God special if it shares the same attributes with Humans? A Being has no beginning or an end. It's function is to be in a continuous state. What brought about a different entity?

KingEbukasBlog:


Ifenes , this guy says atheists do not believe in reincarnation . Atheism is simply the belief there is no god . You can hold whatever beliefs you want . Confucianism is a religion without deists and they venerate ancestral spirits . Confucians can be Atheists




"There is no God" is a declaration showing omniscience . Have you embarked on a peregrination to all possible dimensions , outside the universe to ascertain there is no God ? The answer is no . So its a belief .



Atheism is not a natural state . If it were everyone would quickly dump religion instead atheism has the lowest retention rate in the world . The deists acknowledge the existence of God through Reason , Nature and Science .

There is God without Religion , and There is Religion without God .

He is rejecting the bible god which I completely agree with. However, God,if I will use a religious term is a state a highly enhanced and upgraded human will reach if all potentials are used. God is an advanced term for a state of disciplined and well developed mind.