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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:09pm On Nov 30, 2016
KenyaMan111:


No one is comparing enormity, congratulations for being enormous. I am perplexed and slightly confounded. All that wealth and GDP, but I still cannot fathom where it's going.

Enlighten me kiddo, why is the woman in the second picture contemplating on cannibalism as a means to eat. Surely you're rich to enough to feed her, no?
That picture below is not nigeria,u pig ignorant idiot.how low will u go to sling mud?lower than dog poo,i guess.u masais are not worth it.that,s a western country,dont tell us u dont know.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:32pm On Nov 30, 2016
I STILL HAVE MORE ON IBADAN.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:35pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN WILL SOON KILL YOU KENYANS (AWON OMO IYA).

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:38pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN AGAIN

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:41pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN THE ACCIENT CITY.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:45pm On Nov 30, 2016
SHOULD I POST ANOTHER STATE?
THIS IS STILL IBADAN

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:53pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN THE ANCIENT CITY AND THE THIRD LARGEST CITY IN AFRICA DOESN'T HAVE A SLUM BUT NAIROBI HAVE 7 IN THE TOP 20 LIST.

THE LARGEST SLUM IN AFRICA IS IN NAIROBI WITH ALMOST HALF OF NAIROBI'S POPULATION.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:55pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN AGAIN

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:58pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN grin grin grin

WE ARE 37 STATES AT THE SAME TIME WHILE KENYA IS BUILDING JUST NAIROBI MOMBASA AND SLUMS.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 3:03pm On Nov 30, 2016
KENYANS CAN I MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE NOW?

IBADAN STILL

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 3:10pm On Nov 30, 2016
IBADAN AT NIGHT

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 3:46pm On Nov 30, 2016
KenyaMan111:


No one is comparing enormity, congratulations for being enormous. I am perplexed and slightly confounded. All that wealth and GDP, but I still cannot fathom where it's going.

Enlighten me kiddo, why is the woman in the second picture contemplating on cannibalism as a means to eat. Surely you're rich to enough to feed her, no?
Asides the fact that your picture isn't even from Nigeria, I cannot resort to being dragged down by your inability to comprehend, your derisions and incivility since that's mostly what you've had to offer so far on this thread. And all these definitely ain't my fault, must be the country that brought you up. So Nigga bye.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:57pm On Nov 30, 2016
iblawi:
KENYANS CAN I MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE NOW?

IBADAN STILL
Pls pity the poor masais.they are our fellow african brothers.its just that they think the world ends in nairobi which by the way was created by the british out of pristine jungle.b4 u go,pls show us a little of the world (in)famous kibera slum as a parting gift.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 4:08pm On Nov 30, 2016
obaaderemi:
Pls pity the poor masais.they are our fellow african brothers.its just that they think the world ends in nairobi which by the way was created by the british out of pristine jungle.b4 u go,pls show us a little of the world (in)famous kibera slum as a parting gift.

HAVE IT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q67gldZ1P_8

http://www.hfmagazineonline.com/top-5-slums-in-africa/

http://www.ibtimes.com/5-biggest-slums-world-381338

http://www.africaranking.com/20-worst-slums-in-africa/

http://borgenproject.org/5-largest-slums-world/


Kibera: A neighborhood in Nairobi, Kenya, the Kibera slum is the second largest in Africa, with anywhere from 200,000 to one million residents. Kibera is often used as the model for the environmental impact of informal settlement. Without state sponsored infrastructure like plumbing, residents resort to using flying toilets, which are just plastic bags that can be tossed onto the street. However, Kibera is also one prototype for urban renewal and slum upgrading projects. For about $300,000, U.N. HABITAT is trying to transform all of Kenya's slums, staring with the construction of roads and other services and an actual mapping of the area.

Rounding out a list of the 10 biggest slums would include communities in Bogota, Colombia; Baghdad, Iraq, Venezuela, and Ghana.

The conditions in slums are surely a seriously problem with global implications, but slums themselves do not have to be a problem for anyone. The global population is booming -- the seven billionth citizen of Earth was born only a month ago -- and people need to live somewhere. In the modern, global economy, urbanization is a trend that is impossible to buck and informal settlements are a necessary part of the process.

There are ways to make these communities more hospitable and less hazardous on an environmental level. Some cities in Colombia are extending public transportation lines out to the slums, which as encouraged economic and urban development.

Additionally, others see the population density of slums as a blessing rather than a curse, and perhaps as the future of cities. New, conceptual low-income housing projects are springing up in the United States that could be a model for the developing world. Single-family stacked houses like the ones currently in Brazil and Mexico could be the prototype for the next generation of cities.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 4:57pm On Nov 30, 2016
iblawi:
I STILL HAVE MORE ON IBADAN.

I hope your ego is way up after sending photo of one street from different Angles, Ibadan has 3m ppl those few houses cannot even accommodate 5k ppl. We all know the millions live under the brown roofs.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 4:59pm On Nov 30, 2016
Boyedex:
Asides the fact that your picture isn't even from Nigeria, I cannot resort to being dragged down by your inability to comprehend, your derisions and incivility since that's mostly what you've had to offer so far on this thread. And all these definitely ain't my fault, must be the country that brought you up. So Nigga bye.


Here's an equally reprehensible photograph. I've had fallacious stats hurled all day, mine was an honest mistake. I am still purely curious where does all that GDP disappear to.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:03pm On Nov 30, 2016
arinzeejikonye:
Lagos mainland cool

Honestly speaking I don't see any beauty in Nigerian Cities, maybe it's coz of the bar Kenyan cities have set, we don't have the best of the best but Nija naaaaahh..

As someone claimed Nija is only beautiful to Nigerians.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:14pm On Nov 30, 2016
There is no beautiful slum, slum to me is like feces...

Facts about Kenyan slums
Population of Kenyan slums were exaggerated over 10 times
Place like kibera were estimated to have 2.5ppl while in real sense they hard 171k ppl, Mathare was 500k to 90k.
This was away NGOs milked money from western countries.

Slums in Nairobi occupy 5% of the land...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 5:55pm On Nov 30, 2016
South African ''Makoko''; Port alfred grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:11pm On Nov 30, 2016
Oxtonguy:
I provided u another above RANDOM BLOG HAHAHAHA
If it makes you sleep peacefully then yes, Kibera has 2.5 million people, Mathare has 0.5M people and Mukuru has another 0.5M people. The three slums that are found in Nairobi have a bigger population than Nairobi itself. Are you happy now?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:22pm On Nov 30, 2016
Jay254:
There is no beautiful slum, slum to me is like feces...

Facts about Kenyan slums
Population of Kenyan slums were exaggerated over 10 times
Place like kibera were estimated to have 2.5ppl while in real sense they hard 171k ppl, Mathare was 500k to 90k.
This was away NGOs milked money from western countries.

Slums in Nairobi occupy 5% of the land...

You should be ashamed of yourself. Nairobi has 3 million people and only 1 of your slum have over 1 millioin people. Secondly, Nairobi have 7 slums in top 20 in Africa, should we add the population of the other 6 slums in the top 20 list and those that didn't make the list together? Do the addition and you will discover 2/3 of the population in Nairobi stay in slums.
Lagos on the other hand with a population of almost 20 million people have 4 slums and the one with the highest population is just 150,000 - 250,000 people.
Ibadan with popolation of over 3 million people is not on the list at all. PLEASE TELL US WHO IS BETTER.

I've posted over 50 different pictures of IBADAN the third largest city in AFRICA.

In Nigeria we are building 37 different states not 1 or 2 like kenya.

If you need me to post from other states too i might do it but it seems am wasting my time with you guys cause you are not even to be compared with Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 6:46pm On Nov 30, 2016
14:


I remember when bloomberg broke the news about South Africa overtaking Nigeria once again to reclaim top spot, Mr Dangote jumped up laughing about the bloomberg claim. I for one expected that reaction from Nigerians. They will never accept that any other country in Africa is bigger than them, that biggest economy status is for life, believe you me.
If Mr Dangote didn't jump up, please who else would? This is a ginormous businessman who has investments in several African countries and who knows the return on investment from country to country. But you can be pardoned for making it about Nigerians generally, of course, these are a people who are of high intelect and see most other Africans as the smaller brothers that they truly are.

Later on they sent the GDP stats to IMF as $415bn compared to bloomberg claim of $275bn based on their currency exchange rate with the dollar. Some nigerian commentator was furius on TV explaining the Nigerian GDP calculation, saying that the oil sector is calculated in dollars and not Naira.

The question i asked myself was, why SA GDP is determined based on its exchange rate, converting Rand to Dollar, but that cant be done in Nigeria. Thats when i started questioning the validity of their stats as a whole, very questionable.


This is largely a misinformation. Bloomberg used the exchange rate as at July for GDP figures of December 2015. That methodology was simply faulty and that was what KPMG even argued against. Current exchange rates were supposed to be matched with current local GDP figures for each country to give a clearer picture of things. The adjustment was eventually made and that was what led to the affirmation by IMF of Nigeria's true status. It's not a farce, Nigeria is Africa's biggest economy.
You cannot have a GDP of $500bn and only raise a tax revanue of $21bn, the maths does not add-up. Even if you can come up with an excuse of the economy being largely informal, $21bn is too little considering 90% of it comes from oil. So my question is, how did you quantify that informal economy or it was just by estimate. On top of that you claim to float your currency, while you peg it at N305 to the dollar, while the parallel market is at N470 to the dollar. SA has only one currency exchange rate, unlike nigeria which has more than 4 currency exchange rates, N290, N305, N400, N470 to the doller, which one is the correct one.
The ability to raise revenue from tax is mainly dependent on the institution responsible for it and the political willingness. This has been lacking in Nigeria for many years due to free flow of oil revenues. And you ask why that makes up 90% of the tax revenue? It would even make more sense for you to talk down on the absence of such system rather than claim Nigeria cannot simply raise the revenue because, according to you, the economy is simply not big enough. By the way, under the current FIRS boss, Nigeria non oil revenue has increased. Of course with a decrease in revenue from oil so it's hard to tell the overall impact of such improvement. But it's definitely a work in progress.

Nigeria is going through what venezuela is going through.

The problem is, the masses are the ones that are suffering while the government is busy giving them propaganda on a daily basis. Hence they cant wait to leave the country for greener pasture, because their government has failed them. This is what happens when you continue cooking up stats in a bid to loo FDI, it catches up with you at the end. This is a zimbabwe in a making, watch the space. Once you start struggling to pay government workers, how are you gonna fix the roads, hospitals, schools. whats left is a total collapse because that oil price wont go back to $100 to the barrel anymore. The government keeps on lying to its citizens that they are going to borrow $6bn before end of 2016, its december now where is the $6bn and the china yuan deal, and the indian $20bn oil deal, its all lies, how do you borrow $6bn when your debt service from your budget is 38%. That means in every $100, $38 goes to service debt and that could grow if indeed you manage to increase it by $6bn. It could grow to 50%, meaning if the 2017 budget is $20bn, $10bn would be going to pay debt, thank God i am not Nigerian.
You can please save your doomsday prophecies for another country because Nigeria is never going to get to that anytime soon. Not up to 30% of the population work with the government, Nigerians are largely entrepreneurs and so there is a trough to how bad things can ever get even with this current seemingly directionless government. Speaking of debts, Nigeria is still very lowly indebted compared to South Africa for instance. The depth to GDP ratio is one of the lowest in the whole world giving her a better posture to borrow. And borrowing is never a crime if it is rightly used to improve infrastructure. I don't want to start reeling out the debt profiles of countries like USA, China and the Euros.
And on Nigerians leaving the country for other places, take this from me, even when Nigeria gets 3 times better than it presently is, you will still find Nigerians trying to do business and/or work, live, in other countries of opportunities. Americans look for opportunities everywhere there is, they don't sit at home saying their country is the best. So it's you who should continue to sit on this space as Nigeria remains resilient through difficult economic climates and thereafter, continues to evolve.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 6:56pm On Nov 30, 2016
Lol I'm not gonna mention that other nigga since doing so would be too childish. Like, I could easily get 1001 pictures of Kenyans living in abject poverty too but that's not my thing.

Just stating here and re-emphasizing it, Nigeria is in one truly undeserved situation considering where we are coming from and wasted resources of many years, but with all these, it should NEVER be compared to Kenya. On the African continent, Nigeria not only has the political clout, it has the economic and financial posture as well as the soft power. So Kenya and Kenyans need to rest

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 7:05pm On Nov 30, 2016
When I look at Nigeria, I see potential. I whisper "It looks decent, but it's not quite there yet."

Message to Kenyans

Us Kenyans shouldn't condescendingly look down on Nigeria. As hopeless as the country seems, I see a microscopic glimmer of light (albeit I am increasingly losing that glimmer of light gradually.) Additionally, surpassing Nigeria shouldn't be an excuse for us to procrastinate. Remember they look to us as a father figure.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfroCircus: 7:17pm On Nov 30, 2016
forgiveness:



Safal group vs Ladol, or vs GZI industries

Safal group is Africa's largest producer of steel roofing with operations in 11 countries.

Ladol LADOL are engaged in any of the following: Shipbuilding; Engineering, procurement and construction; Deepwater offshore exploration and production; Oil & gas services; Pipe coating; Steel construction, Mooring services; Vessel and rig repairs; and Training. Provide services to international and West Africa and International.

If you are not satisfied with that, then GZI industry will do.

GZ Industries is West Africa’s leading aluminum can manufacturer, expanding rapidly to sub saharan Africa.
Nigeria, South Africa and Kenya. shocked grin


Shipbuilding company all the way. grin



Kenya Airways vs Afrik air

Kenya Airways is one of Africa's largest airline company with operations in almost every African capital (44 destinations in Africa, 54 in total)


Afrik air with operations in 11 countries (America, London, Dubai and some African countries)

kenya airways wins here.



KCB kenya vs First Bank

KCB and Equity, Kenya's largest banks have operations in 7 & 6 countries in Eastern Africa respectively.

FirstBank is the biggest bank in Nigeria by total deposits and gross earnings and operates a network of over 750 business locations across Africa, the United Kingdom and representative offices in Abu Dhabi, Beijing, Johannesburg, South Africa, DR Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leon, Guinea, France and Senegal.


TKO First Bank wins grin


Equity Bank vs UBA Nigeria



United Bank for Africa (UBA) Plc, is one of Africa's leading banking Groups with operations in 19 African countries and offices in three global financial centers: London, Paris and New York.


Another TKO. UBA wins


Nigeria no be small pikin. grin


Watch out, more to come. grin
Nice, like the detailed reply but lemme differ here and there

LADOL is an industrial free zone where MNCs dealing in West African oil and gas set up operations to enjoy tax free benefits, the same way athi river is an industrial zone in Nairobi for MNCs dealing in manufacturing. So why you comparing an MNC with an industrial zone

Then GZI reached its max capacity of 1.2bn cans in 2012, sounds like a whole lot. At 14.5g for each can, that's an output of about 17,400 tonnes. If you compare that with safal's Mabati (steel and aluminium) rolling mills plant in athi that had an output of 250,000 tonnes in 2012,thats very little. Keep in mind that safal has 35 plants across Africa and Asia! GZI is planning it's first plant in south Africa while SAFAL has 2 plants there already and is planning another. No contest

Your banking is bigger than Kenya's, that I agree, knew you'd dwell there for long...but I got respect for your big banks, though ours are expanding much faster.

Waiting for more
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by shizzy7(f): 8:04pm On Nov 30, 2016
KenyaMan111:



Here's an equally reprehensible photograph. I've had fallacious stats hurled all day, mine was an honest mistake. I am still purely curious where does all that GDP disappear to.
Yet again......

What do you think that place is?
A slum where people live?

Just a simple reply....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by shizzy7(f): 8:26pm On Nov 30, 2016
MPSA:
South African ''Makoko''; Port alfred grin
Makoko is a slum situated on the Lagos Lagoon, its residents are majorly involved in fishing, its their major source of living. So many times, the government has demolished, given notice of eviction even offered alternative location but they refused, most of its residents are from neighboring west African countries and they've adopted the place to be their own.

I hope our government finds an alternate solution to restructuring Makoko.

Hey, I told you we were going to whoop your ass... grin but banana girls tried sha.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by palearab: 12:30am On Dec 01, 2016
NairobiWalker:

When you have 180M people voting for you for no reason other than living within the same boundaries as them you can beat any musician who is way better than you.

There you go playing the population card!!!
You guys are just pathetic!!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by palearab: 12:39am On Dec 01, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
Their biggest problem is jealousy, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that they are jealous of Kenya's achievements

Achieve Fire!!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by palearab: 12:43am On Dec 01, 2016
Jayceon:
and the inhabitants of one of those two countries will never see 5 hours of steady electricity...well well we all know which one tho

Lies lies lies now we all know your a liar!!!
SA too as power cuts...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 12:53am On Dec 01, 2016
LAGOS AT NIGHT cheesy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by palearab: 12:54am On Dec 01, 2016
NairobiWalker:


I know Ali Kiba, you know Ali Kiba, the SA guys on this thread know Ali Kiba.Who is this rest of Africa you talk of?

We don't give a rat ass!!!

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