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Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Peacefullove: 11:55am On Nov 19, 2016 |
Berlynn: You are using religion to define a simple thing " death" , " die" .. Does the separation definition fit in with the context of every living thing that experience death ? If I killed a hen or cow , it means they didn't go out o existence but went to somewhere else ? If NO, u are biased in your definition if you don't know .such a definition is religiously grounded to support a certain dogma . Before you can answer my earlier question , define death as it relate to every living thing ? 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:36pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:Jesus says to all pastors, ministers and evangelists that humbly want spiritual enlightenment in; Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. A pastor, minister, evangelist will be know by their WORKS so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches. What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ? They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same. Jesus says to them,”As my father sent me, so send I you.” Now the world finally have a free education channel 24 hours a day, seven days a week on Emmanuel TV demonstrating true scientifically verifiable evidence and deeper meaning of John 14:12 |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:37pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Famouson:Here Jesus explains why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonder are an extremely important part of His Mission. Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him. Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me. Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who has sent him. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:38pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
SirWere:Here we see that Jesus Christ is accused of using demonic power to deliver a man from an evil spirit. Mat 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil. Mat 9:33 And when the devil was cast out, the dumb man spoke: and all the people were amazed, saying, this was never seen in Israel. Mat 9:34 But the Pharisees said, He delivers out devils through the prince of the devils. Note how the same false accusations are made against the Holy Prophet TB Joshua. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. Here Jesus Christ explains who he is and why He came into the world. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Joh 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also sent them into the world to do the same. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:39pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Brigham:Here Jesus Christ explains why the miracles/WORKS are a vital part of the complete Gospel. It is so that we will be so amazed at the love of God in our suffering, that we will believe and no longer doubt the Son of God. He has proven himself to us ! Joh 5:20 For the God loves the Son, and shows Him all miracles that He does: and He will show me greater miracles/WORKS than these, so that you may be amazed and believe. Joh 5:21 For as the Father raise up the dead, and give them life; even so the Son gives life to whom he will. Joh 5:22 For the Father judge no man, but has committed all judgment unto the Son: Joh 5:24 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that understand what I am saying and doing, and believes in God that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Have you ever wondered why many people have a hard time honouring Jesus? Here Jesus explains this problem very clearly. Joh 6:65 And Jesus said, I have said to you, that no one can come to me and believe what I am doing, except, if the true God sends them to me. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:40pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:Here we see Jesus give to the Jews the reason why they can’t believe the evidence of the WORKS and love Him. Joh 7:14 Now about the middle of the Jewish religious festival, Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. Joh 7:15 And the Jews were amazed, saying, How knows this man this, having never learned? Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but the true God that sent me. Joh 8:29 And He that sent me is with me: God has not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him. (Restoring the suffering people.) Joh 8:38 I speak and do that which I have seen with my Father the true God: and you do that which you have seen with your father Satan. Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If the true God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and live not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of lies. Consider what Jesus said to the Jews earlier, Joh 6:65 And Jesus said, I have said to you, that no one can come to me and believe what I am doing, except, if the true God sends them to me. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:42pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Auki:Here we see Jesus give to the Jews the reason why they can’t believe the evidence of the WORKS and love Him. Joh 7:14 Now about the middle of the Jewish religious festival, Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. Joh 7:15 And the Jews were amazed, saying, How knows this man this, having never learned? Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but the true God that sent me. Joh 8:29 And He that sent me is with me: God has not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him. (Restoring the suffering people.) Joh 8:38 I speak and do that which I have seen with my Father the true God: and you do that which you have seen with your father Satan. Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If the true God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and live not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of lies. Consider what Jesus said to the Jews earlier, Joh 6:65 And Jesus said, I have said to you, that no one can come to me and believe what I am doing, except, if the true God sends them to me. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:47pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:The Jews are unable to believe verifiable evidence of the miracles/WORKS Joh 10:23 And Jesus walked in the Jewish temple in Solomon's porch. Joh 10:24 Then the Jews came round about him, and said to him, How long do you make us to doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly. Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the miracles/ WORKS that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. Joh 10:26 But you wont believe, because you are not of the true God, as I said unto you. Joh 10:37 If I don’t do the miracles/ WORKS of my Father, don’t believe me. Joh 10:38 But if I do, though you are unable to believe me, believe the WORKS: so that that you may know, and believe, that the true God is in me, and I in Him. Joh 10:39 Because of this the Jews tried to harm him: but he escaped out of their hands. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ScienceWatch: 10:49pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
akintom:Today, two thousand years later, Christ is separating the wheat from the chafe. Because of His love for all church goers, He is separating fake pastors from His chosen ones. Church goers world wide finally have powerful Biblical and scientifically verifiable evidence of the true Love of God as witnessed in The holy Scoan Church Nigeria . For too long Church goers have been fooled with cheap talk. Examine how Christ answered his chosen ones, apprentice pastors/disciples. Two very important spiritual questions are asked here; a) Where is heaven, and how do we get there ? b) Who is God and show us this God ? John 14:5 Thomas asked him, Lord, we know not where you are doing; and how can we know the way? John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man comes to the Father, but by me. John 14:7 If you had known me, you should have known my Father also: and from now you know him, and have seen him. John 14:8 Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father, and it will be enough for us . John 14:9 Jesus said to him, Have I been a long time with you, and yet you have not known me, Philip? He that has seen me has seen the Father; and why do you then say, Show us the Father? John 14:10 Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that lives in me, He do the works (that you have seen me do, and that you do..) (What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ? They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same, He says to them,”As my father sent me, so send I you.” ) |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 30, 2016 |
Berlynn:I don't believe and will never in my life believe this rubbish, God is the father Jesus is the son period |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by splashybone(m): 1:44am On Dec 01, 2016 |
Berlynn:when Jesus was answering Philip he was asserting that Him and His father are of the same purpose in his later statement which you just quoted "The words I say to you are not just my own." suggests Jesus' position in relation to his father |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by splashybone(m): 1:53am On Dec 01, 2016 |
Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “"Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies."” In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages: “"Jehovah our God is One Jehovah."”—Deuteronomy 6:4. “"You, whose name is Jehovah, you[b] alone[/b] are the Most High over all the earth."”—Psalm 83:18. “"This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."”—John 17:3. “"God is only one."”—Galatians 3:20. Why do most Christian denominations say that God is a Trinity? 2 Likes |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by monex(m): 5:56pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
SirWere:well it typically happens when we cannot prove something but at the same time it cannot be disproved. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 8:14pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
monex:Well, in that case, does the onus not lie on the claimant to assert and show conclusive proof |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by ichuka(m): 9:42pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
At OP If Berlynn is your surname,why would you be called the Son/Dauther of Berlynn?? Very dumb question Don't bother to reply. 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 9:48pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
ichuka:so whats ur point? 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 10:01pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Thumbs up@ berlynn Also Jesus referred himself as the Lord of the Sabbath. The jews knew that God was the Lord of sabbath yet Jesus is claimed same thing. Jesus is God! The whole bible support and proves this. No wonder the Jews wanted to kill him. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 9:20pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:Atheist spotted Berlynn explained it already.. Take it or leave it, but that's the truth. . . Anyway, Jesus loves you bro.. Believe in Him or not, it changes nothing |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 9:32pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
Peacefullove:God is a Spirit.. Spirits don't 'die' like u mentioned and mind u, Jesus rose from dead on the third day, He lives |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 9:43pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
Auki:This is something that u can't comprehend except it is revealed unto u by God/Jesus Himself.. BTW, the op mentioned some scriptural passages where Jesus regarded Himself as God.. I guess u skipped those places because u can't stand it (God help us all) And for old testament prophets/people not talking of Jesus, u forgot that Isaiah prophesied about His coming, David also mentioned Him and even called Him LORD, the Israelites had always hoped for the coming of the Messiah... It baffles me a lot when non-christians try to tell/preach to christians about their faith and what they think is the truth with some false doctrines against the Scripture. . . Jesus is LORD of all forever, Amen. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 10:03pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
Zceesneh:Those words were said by Jesus Himself, why the disbelief.. The Bible passage is clear enough.. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 10:11pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
splashybone:The problem with we humans is that we try to understand everything with what we can see or what our brains can comprehend.. The Father, Jesus and The Holy Spirit = One God.. They are not three different people like some of us think.. I used to believe they were there different beings until God opened my understanding.. Pray for God to give you an understanding of this mystery.. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 7:58am On Dec 11, 2016 |
Amicable24:exactly I thought I was d only one who knws this 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Nobody: 12:06pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
Amicable24:bye believe whatever u want to live |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by rexben(m): 1:54pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
Berlynn:Jesus is not God, He's simply the son of God. Don't mind Christians jare. Jesus said "He came from the Father", "what He sees the father do I do", "I come to you father". |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Peacefullove: 11:25pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
Amicable24: How can Jesus rose from dead if he didnt die ? |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by Amicable24: 7:51pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
Peacefullove:I never mentioned that Jesus didn't die When he finished His work on earth, He died (being flesh) and rose again on the third day |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by rexben(m): 2:00pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Jesus is not God. If you're actually listening to Jesus you won't ever make the mistake of calling Jesus God. Jesus is simply the begotten son of God. He and His Father are one because Jesus' will is to do the will of God. You're one with a person who have the same goal, purpose etc. The two shall become one(i.e marriage). Does it change the fact that there are two individual persons. LISTEN TO JESUS ONLY AND YOU WON'T ERR |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by rexben(m): 2:07pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Splinz:If I say the post is confusing, it'll be an understatement because Jesus never called Himself God. He's the son of God. |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by rexben(m): 2:12pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
One funny observation about the major theme of Christianity is that it's self defeating.Pls, help me ask them ooo. If He's all powerful and all mighty, He should be able to forgive sins without sacrifices. I'M VERY CERTAIN THAT THE CHRISTIAN GOD IS NOT YAHWEH |
Re: If Jesus Christ Is God Why Is He Called God's Begotten Son by rexben(m): 2:14pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Peacefullove:Wonderful question! |
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