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Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by bennyann: 4:53am On Dec 01, 2016 |
I got to my room about 11:00 and sat on my bed thinking what a stupid, ignorant fool I had been. I had rejected God; I had been dishonest. I had actually been stupid in my response to the evidence available to me. I did not like people who refuse to look at the evidence and draw intelligent conclusions. I did not like people who could not break free of their parents' thinking and do their own thinking. I had
I see it's more about pleasure, selfish pleasure. Most of the atheists know the truth but they allow their selfish desires dictate for them, especially the Christians turned atheists. Anyway, they're witnesses to themselves of how fulfilled they are with acting out their desires and how empty or unhappy they are on their beds afterwards. They are witnesses to themselves. they may defend themselves right here with every weapon they can find, but deep down their hearts they know. The amazing thing is that nothing is hidden before God. What's the essence of selfish desires at the expense of true happiness. Indeed, wisdom is not really common. We've all forgotten everything God does is for our sake. As long as you're not connected to God, all the form of pleasures of this world you partake in will never, never lead to happiness, not to talk of joy. I wish all of us grace. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 5:26am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:OGA go and take several seats. you are not making sense. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:18am On Dec 01, 2016 |
butterflylion:I just taya for him 1 Like |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:21am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hahn:abeg swerve joor see the hypocritical hardmirrored lie you want to hardmirror someone with. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:24am On Dec 01, 2016 |
LambanoPeace: you still get their time. these atheist guys should considered as hardmirrored LAIRS. NAHTOL. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:34am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:the more I see this guy ^^ comment on NL religion sector, the more I see a new worsening case of delusion and dumbness. atheism is growing on NL? what sort of lie is this? I don't just know why you guys derive fun from lying. I don't just know. just to hardmirror some gullible folks. you guys too dey lie. is it because you people believe that conscience does not exist? that's why you will love to hardmirror people with lies on the forum. FYI, atheism is DEAD AND BURIED in this forum. what you are doing now is that you are trying to pick up it's dead, buried and decayed pieces. But sorry, that's not still working too. so, just get a real check for you life. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by hopefulLandlord: 6:35am On Dec 01, 2016 |
^^^ wake up and smell the coffee! |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:49am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Another foolish deception is this nonsense logic of God of gap, this and that. what I saying here is not for you, the quoted, because it is a waste on you. There are things that are OBVIOUSLY not explainable by sciences. in this case, saying that science will discover one day is a just a wishful thinking borne out of a weird delusion, ignorance, dishonesty, stupidity and denial. for the unknown to have a tendency of being discovered by science, it must have a scientific basis. it just like saying that science will discover what happened before big bang. that's simply dumb, because the natural laws(science) that we have now is not the same with what we have before big bang. it is opposite. There is no way you can discover something with an opposing view, other wise you are just creating A NEW LIE that will be debunked one day. so, when something is obvious that it doesn't work under the natural laws we have now in the world, it means for that to have happened, there must have been an outside force. and that force must not be a natural force, but Supernatural. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 6:52am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: leave all this your coffee nonsense, it is making you act more deluded and ignorant. again, get yourself a real check. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Immorttal: 7:47am On Dec 01, 2016 |
darbeelicous:may i know your believe. in a Chritian God (Yahweh? OR in a Supreme Being which didn't reveal itself? elaborate please. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by hopefulLandlord: 8:09am On Dec 01, 2016 |
Can Promise10 and his many monickers stop quoting me? can't he see I'm ignoring him by not quoting him? Chai!! he finds it hard to get the memo |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by frank317: 8:28am On Dec 01, 2016 |
darbeelicous: Lol... Madam opinion. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 9:02am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hahn: And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience. Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something? Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications? |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by bennyann: 9:41am On Dec 01, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin: Take it easy. I don't want shouts of 'no true Scotsman fallacy' at the Op. Actually, I personally prefer the use of no true Christian fallacy. Let's just stop here Happy new month 1 Like |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by LiberaDeus: 9:58am On Dec 01, 2016 |
promisechuks: With all your points about some things not being discovered by science, doesn't it debunk your case. Science with all its experiments and technology doesn't know what happened before the big bang but you think its religion with its dogma and archaic holy books that can discover. In case you don't understand what god of the gaps is, Let me explain it Wonderful things in nature happen and you call them supernatural, historical things that can't be rediscovered have occured and we know science can't decipher them with its tools. We now have a void of knowledge that science hasn't filled because its logical and it's beyond its grasp, Now the same people who claim science can't know now claim that they know. Not just that they know buy that they know the name of the person that did it. They know his son, they know his chosen tribe, they know the miracles he has performed, they know his will for their lives and all that. Now how do these people know? They know by a logical, ancient book written in human language and logical constructs, the same logic that science can't use to decipher anything the only difference is that their logic is actually weaker. They also claim they know by spiritual revelation, how do they know that the revelation is spiritual? They have a conviction. They use the strength of their so called spiritual conviction to claim that they know and it's beyond science. They don't know that they are unknowingly using science and logic, if you feel you have an experience that is so wonderful and supernatural and because of that experience you are sure that the spiritual is real, you are actually using logic because you are claiming that the conviction and experience with a greater effect on you is the real one which is basically logical comparison. Christians and other religious people, if you claim that science can't know every thing, that's fine with us cause personally I don't believe science can know every thing, the only thing we ask is , how do you Christian know everything? Science doesn't know but you know. Is that not arrogance? |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 10:02am On Dec 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:if you think I am anti-hopefullandlord, then better go and take several seats. YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. You definitely don't worth it. I don't hate you man, but your delusion. when you ignore me, it is even better. because it will reduce the number of delusions I have to destroy in a day so that I can focus on other delusions. so, whether you ignore me or not, it is simply needless to me. because what drives me to quote you, is the delusion rot in most of your posts. mark my words, any day I will see you make a good point, I will recommend you for that. That's what I do on NL. So, your feelings towards my actions to your post is just useless to me. you get that? |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 10:05am On Dec 01, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin: I don't agree well with your first statement. you should edit it to: "And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that THEY LOVE LIES. " 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by darbeelicous(f): 11:21am On Dec 01, 2016 |
Immorttal:I'm a Christian who believe in the existence of God (who is supreme)............ This is my uncompromising faith. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by hahn(m): 11:23am On Dec 01, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin: Nothing is perfect. Atheists might be wrong for not believing in any supreme being. That is if any actually exist. The lack of evidence that this "God" exists is what keeps atheists ambivalent of the concept. Till "God" shows itself in a suit or a basketball jersey it will continue to be treated as non existent by those who require evidence and don't subscribe to blind belief 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by hahn(m): 11:26am On Dec 01, 2016 |
LambanoPeace: Lol. Coming from someone who believes there is an old man with a bad temper in the sky |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 11:45am On Dec 01, 2016 |
blueAgent:I will say this again. I am not an atheist. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by promisechuks: 1:30pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
hahn: I just marvel when people say that atheists are intelligent folks. it is an abuse on "Intelligence". |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 2:37pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
I have only myself to be blamed for engaging these guys in the first place. That's why I get mentioned in stupid threads like this. So in other words, our guy left atheism due to a appeal to authority fallacy, right? "A prof said it can't be done. So, it can't be done" I suppose if max Planck, Leonhard Euler, Nikola Tesla, the wright brothers, and Steve Jobs were like our boy here, the world would have been as advanced as this. Please refrain from wasting my time like this in the future. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 2:52pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Atheists are very slow and dull. One of them said that until God wear jersey and take a stroll to a basketball court he will not believe. African atheists are particularly stupid and irrationally close minded. some white atheist are open minded and are very open to rational discussion. There is nothing like African atheist only blacks who take white as their god become atheists. Ask them question you see them quoting theories and philosophy of their white masters, this is why africa is at the background in everything. Some Black people's mentality is too poor! 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 3:04pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Teempakguy:why dont you answer the question if you can @ bold so because the man has asked question he is a stumbling block to advancement? If those men you quoted were like you humanity would have still be in the stone age. Nonsense |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 3:10pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
solite3:my friend shut up. The problem is not that he started asking. It is that some unscrupulous elements gave him totally wrong answers, and he believed it. Let him sit down there and be lamenting while science uncovers all the mysteries giving him headache. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 5:25pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Teempakguy:atheism is irrational so because they were truthful enough that science has no answer mean they are unscrupulous? Dont be this dumb, what answers has science presented? |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by Nobody: 5:34pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
solite3:just because there are no current answers, gives no one the right to dictate what science can or cannot do. All they had to say was; who knows, you might be the one to find out. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by blueAgent(m): 5:53pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: Don't miss understand me. I did not limit the names to that of athiests, i also mentioned the names of Thiests like , felixomor, KingEbukablog,Winners and you with the names of Athiests. |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by blueAgent(m): 5:58pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Teempakguy: Just accept the fact and logic that nothing can come from nothing.even if you give Science 10000yrs they will still not have an answer. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by blueAgent(m): 6:02pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Teempakguy: Their is no logical explanation for the origin of Matter from nothing other than A believe in God as the maker of matter. 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Left Atheism By John N. Clayton by blueAgent(m): 6:05pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
peacesamuel94: Only a believe in God answers all the questions concerning the origin of the Universe and still remains consistent with the laws of Science. www.nairaland.com/3236915/facts-prove-science-supports-bible |
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