blueAgent:



I just proved that Christanity does not limit ones ability to pratice and excel in Science.

blueAgent:




Lol.......is like they have turned into 007

LiberaDeus:


Don't mind these Christians.

They think that by collectively repeating to themselves that atheists are dumb that they will convince them selves of it.

Any honest Christian can tell you that agnostics and atheists are generally better read and more exposed on average than Christians. We might be few but most Christians know that agnostics and atheists generally have more knowledge than them. Many even claim that we reject god because we think we know too much.

Now these wankers on this thread are trying so hard to rewrite facts and claim that
the opposite is the case.

LiberaDeus:


All your claims are claims from authority that you don't have. Let me address them one by one

1. Concerning pleasures, who is more selfish. You Christians maintain belief for the sake of a mansion in the sky with all the goodies4 of life to be enjoyed forever and ever and ever. You guys are basically drawn with a carrot for something that doesn't exist. You are like the medieval Spanish that were after an Eldorado in the new world. Many Spaniards sold all their property to achieve that Eldorado. Nothing but pure greed.
What's even worse is that the Christians that are meant to sacrifice selfish pleasures never do that. They hang on to it till death, its like eating your cake and having it. Most Christians fornicate, steal, embezzlement, hate and do all sorts of horrible things and they still hope for the eternal blessing of heaven.
Now who has more selfish desires, the atheists that have accepted the 80 year life as the only they have and are not drawn by any fantastic claims or the Christians who want an eternity of enjoyment and still want to hang on to their earthly desires.

2. You don't know what's in anyone's heart. Can you tell me my real name or my state of origin? Can you tell me whre I am typing from? How can you now know what's in my heart. You have never been a freethinker while ironically most of us have been religious. You know only what's in your mind . If you have a spouse, you can't even know exactly the extent of love the person has for you so how can you estimate what we are thinking when we lie down when you don't even know the part of the world or country that we lie down in.

3. If you say nothing is hidden before God. I have just one question. Which God ? Allah, Vishnu, Brahman, Yahweh, Ahura Mazda. Please I need to know which god.

4. All your other statements still lead to the question. Which God.

LambanoPeace:


Eyehategod and Seun.. Let's investigate this

blueAgent:





Like i said Hawkins and most scientists do not believe in a random or chaos beginging of the World.
Secondly Aberlt Enisten was not an Athiests.

Everyone who is seriously involved in the
pursuit of science becomes convinced
that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the
Universe–a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which
we with our modest powers must feel humble.”
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people
who say there is no God. But what really omakes
me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
–Albert Einstein
Clark, Ronald W. (1971). Einstein: The Life and
Times . New York: World Publishing company

blueAgent:


You claim you have More knowledge than Christains.
I laugh at U. i have never seen any Athiests that can match my knoweledge in any area even if i am in a Coma.

blueAgent:



The reason we are having this argument is becos of the conflict among the gods posing to be the true God. only God of the Bible is the true God all other gods of other religeons are man made gods.

rhektor:
Eyehategod , seun , otem etc food is ready

LambanoPeace:




Eyehategod and Seun.. Let's investigate this

butterflylion:

Otem no follow?

blueAgent:



The reason we are having this argument is becos of the conflict among the gods posing to be the true God. only God of the Bible is the true God all other gods of other religeons are man made gods.

blueAgent:



Only a believe in God answers all the questions concerning the origin of the Universe and still remains consistent with the laws of Science.

www.nairaland.com/3236915/facts-prove-science-supports-bible

LiberaDeus:


All your claims are claims from authority that you don't have. Let me address them one by one

1. Concerning pleasures, who is more selfish. You Christians maintain belief for the sake of a mansion in the sky with all the goodies4 of life to be enjoyed forever and ever and ever. You guys are basically drawn with a carrot for something that doesn't exist. You are like the medieval Spanish that were after an Eldorado in the new world. Many Spaniards sold all their property to achieve that Eldorado. Nothing but pure greed.
What's even worse is that the Christians that are meant to sacrifice selfish pleasures never do that. They hang on to it till death, its like eating your cake and having it. Most Christians fornicate, steal, embezzlement, hate and do all sorts of horrible things and they still hope for the eternal blessing of heaven.
Now who has more selfish desires, the atheists that have accepted the 80 year life as the only they have and are not drawn by any fantastic claims or the Christians who want an eternity of enjoyment and still want to hang on to their earthly desires.

2. You don't know what's in anyone's heart. Can you tell me my real name or my state of origin? Can you tell me whre I am typing from? How can you now know what's in my heart. You have never been a freethinker while ironically most of us have been religious. You know only what's in your mind . If you have a spouse, you can't even know exactly the extent of love the person has for you so how can you estimate what we are thinking when we lie down when you don't even know the part of the world or country that we lie down in.

3. If you say nothing is hidden before God. I have just one question. Which God ? Allah, Vishnu, Brahman, Yahweh, Ahura Mazda. Please I need to know which god.

4. All your other statements still lead to the question. Which God.

MrMontella:

sorry to say tho...
Your write up is really stupid

blueAgent:



“They (evolutionists) challenge science to
prove the existence of God. But must we really
light a candle to see the sun? They say they
cannot visualize a Designer. Well, can a
physicist visualize an electron? What strange
rationale makes some physicists accept the
inconceivable electron as real while refusing
to accept the reality of a Designer on the
grounds that they cannot conceive Him?”
Although I know of no reference to Christ
ever commenting on scientific work, I do know
that He said, “Ye shall know the truth, and the
truth shall make you free.” Thus I am certain
that, were He among us today, Christ would
encourage scientific research as modern man’s
most noble striving to comprehend and admire His Father’s handiwork. The universe as
revealed through scientific inquiry is the living
witness that God has indeed been at work.”
—Werner von Braun, the father of space science and the most important rocket scientist involved in the development of the U.S. space program.

blueAgent:



Evidence!! are u serious?

bennyann:


LiberaDeus

Let me start by saying my write up was drawn from the conclusions extracted from the Op. I hope you'll agree with me when you read through.

1. I think I remember telling you in a certain thread that what keeps a Christian going is the love for God. He said we should love Him with all our hearts and then love our neighbors as ourselves. Love is the drive force of a Christian. God is bigger and more satisfying than the mansions you believe it's what Christians are fighting for. Christianity is about constant relationship with the father. God is the center of attraction and not paradise.

Those whose eyes are fixed on material things instead of Jesus easily get diverted. The focal point is God and not material things. Anyone who understands that has found the secret in standing firm.

Besides, in the real world, especially in Nigeria, it isn't hidden that most atheists are part of those hiding under the guise of Christianity. So you can't say for sure if it's Christians doing all those stuff you mentioned.

AND we shouldn't forget easily that those called Christians are those who obey the commandments of God. Those who follow the Bible.

So if you call those who obey the commandments of God selfish, well, I'll leave that to your conscience.

2. I agree with you that I don't know what's in anyone's heart. Infact I never said I knew so please don't get me wrong . I only said the atheists are witnesses to themselves about what goes on in their hearts. Infact each of us are the only witness to our hearts apart from God. So I don't think I erred there.

We shouldn't forget here that the conclusions were drawn from the Op. But I wouldn't deny the fact that several related stories pointed out that most became atheists so as to please their flesh which doesn't lead to happiness. I'm beginning to see reasons in it and if possible, truths.

3. Talking about which God. Since you don't believe God exists and since you're trying to prove to me I'm not the only one having a God. And believe me I believe there are other gods. Well, here goes the answer :

The God of all gods. The Creator of the universe. The Creator of everything. The One who has no beginning and ending of days. The One who says yes and none can say no. The One who gives life to the flesh. The One who cannot just destroy only the body but also the soul, the spirit. The God who every other gods or spirits bow to and give accounts of all their dealings.

That's the kind of God I'm talking about.

Blessed are they who have such a God as their God.

blueAgent:


You claim you have More knowledge than Christains.
I laugh at U. i have never seen any Athiests that can match my knoweledge in any area even if i am in a Coma.

hahn:


The moment you realize that every single religion can come up with such quotes to defend and prove why their god is real is the day your mind will be open

Sibe007:


Interesting claim here.

Any proofs or reasons why?? Educate a brother on how we made other gods and not the God of the Bible.

LiberaDeus:

Please what makes god of the bible the true god. I want to know .
I don't want to argue, please I want to believe
Can you kindly give me 3 facts to support that claim Thanks in advance

blueAgent:



The God of the Bible which is the christain God is
the only true God. gods of other religeon are
worshipped and referenced through
objects,material things like India's religeon were
they believe cattle is scared.
but God can only be worshiped in spirit becos he
is a spirit.
Only the God of the Bible. has given us clear
narrative or view about the origin of man and the
Universe.gods of other religeon don't claim to
have made man or the Universe.
Bible prophecies given over 3000yrs ago have
been furfilled and more will still happen.
All the other religeons have several stories and
myths about man and his origin. only Christainity
affirms that man was created,no other religeon
has given reasons or solution to world problems
only christainity has given us The reason for this
problems with a promise to end it.

blueAgent:



The God of the Bible which is the christain God is
the only true God. gods of other religeon are
worshipped and referenced through
objects,material things like India's religeon were
they believe cattle is scared.
but God can only be worshiped in spirit becos he
is a spirit.
Only the God of the Bible. has given us clear
narrative or view about the origin of man and the
Universe.gods of other religeon don't claim to
have made man or the Universe.
Bible prophecies given over 3000yrs ago have
been furfilled and more will still happen.
All the other religeons have several stories and
myths about man and his origin. only Christainity
affirms that man was created,no other religeon
has given reasons or solution to world problems
only christainity has given us The reason for this
problems with a promise to end it.

blueAgent:



The God of the Bible which is the christain God is the only true God. gods of other religeon are worshipped and referenced through objects,material things like India's religeon were they believe cattle is scared.
but God can only be worshiped in spirit becos he is a spirit.
Only the God of the Bible. has given us clear narrative or view about the origin of man and the Universe.gods of other religeon don't claim to have made man or the Universe.

Bible prophecies given over 3000yrs ago have been furfilled and more will still happen.
All the other religeons have several stories and myths about man and his origin. only Christainity affirms that man was created,no other religeon has given reasons or solution to world problems only christainity has given us The reason for this problems with a promise to end it.

hopefulLandlord:


no offense but your post reeks of too many ignorance!

put your hole-ly buybull down and research on other religions and gods, I'm sure you'll never type such again if you do the research

Chai!!!

blueAgent:


The God of the Bible which is the christain God is the only true God. gods of other religeon are worshipped and referenced through objects,material things like India's religeon were they believe cattle is scared. but God can only be worshiped in spirit becos he is a spirit. Only the God of the Bible. has given us clear narrative or view about the origin of man and the Universe.gods of other religeon don't claim to have made man or the Universe. Bible prophecies given over 3000yrs ago have been furfilled and more will still happen. All the other religeons have several stories and myths about man and his origin. only Christainity affirms that man was created,no other religeon has given reasons or solution to world problems only christainity has given us The reason for this problems with a promise to end it.

frank317:

Ya, that's ur opinion alright, but don't u realize this this ur opinion no make sense?

LiberaDeus:


You don't even read my post but you jump to conclusions.

I know Einstein is not an atheist that's why I said that he is a pantheist. Please read my post again and see.

If you like quote Einstein tire. Since you want to quote him why don't you also quote the statements Einstein made against a personal creator like Yahweh.

Since you want to bank on his statements. Why don't you go all the way ?

felixomor:


Its yours that says ur ancestors came out of an accidental explosion that makes sense abi?

MrMontella:
asin ehn..
I started having mixed having mixed reactions about the guy when he asked me why there is no gravity on the moon...
Ignorance!

frank317:


U are so confused... What an ignorant comment!!!

MrMontella:
jesus!

hopefulLandlord:


no offense but your post reeks of too many ignorance!

put your hole-ly buybull down and research on other religions and gods, I'm sure you'll never type such again if you do the research

Chai!!!