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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:45pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
GERALD710:Nigga please, why showing us Northern roads where they only have less than 3% of Good roads , show me mersebit,isiolo,Garissa inner.....roads? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jabioro: 12:50pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
All these points OP mention can't made Kenya ahead of Nigeria.We can't be equal,a lot of parrell lines of development are btw d two countries.,let me add this to make it tasteful.Kenya women with weird behaviour.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 12:50pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Kenya Nightime 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:57pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Kenyanstar: Same recycled CBD and upper hills pics from different angles smmmhhhhh, |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:00pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
niger delta states (port Harcourt )
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:01pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
port...new city underconstruction
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:03pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Niger delta states (Akwa ibom )
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
I notice much arrogance which is proportionally related to the level of ignorance among many Naijjans here. As I said earlier your economy was hilariously overinflated. It seems the CBN made a career out of this and when reality set in you didn't get the memo. I recall how you gloated 2 years back when your GDP was ranked above RSA. Now all the results of that lie cooked up are apparent-Sanussi and co have served you up a giant ish sandwich and you'll have to bite deeply,since there's nothing else on the menu. Fyi,he's an American prof. Economic stats are his life! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/nigeria-spins-out-control-and-imf-remains-unaware You guys have a subculture of lying that's biting you in the arse. Here's a Kenyan example. Our education sec gave graphic measures to curb cheating in national exams-there were 30% less A's than previously in our end year primary school exams though the average mark was more or less same. Meaning? Honesty is always best;false confidence of dishonesty is dangerous. Almost missed this! Sanussi finally discovers honesty: A former governor of Central Bank of Nigeria, Alhaji Sanusi Lamido Sanusi on Friday in Abuja, advised President Muhammadu Buhari to jettison the proposed plan to take $30 billion foreign loan because of its grave consequences.http://punchng.com/30-billion-foreign-loan-sanusi-warns-buhari/ Iblawi,highheybee,68816419,for fvucks sake!! Do you still insist you're a half trillion dollar economy when you never were!? 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:08pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Niger delta states (Bayelsa)(Kenya is far behind Nigeria nd we are no mate at all I swear!)
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:13pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
highheybee: At least you accept our poverty rate is lower,and fyi,our unemployment appears higher cause certain occupations aren't counted formally,including farm labour,pastoralism and family members on family farms. . you are boys and we are men...boy run away from problems by being evasive while real men faces it.. Nigga,you'll make me show you why Kenyans are unbeatable running distance. Cause Kikuyus,Kalenjins and Maasais can run through the pain thanks to a unique tradition that makes men out of boys-don't ask for a pic. Trust me! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 1:26pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
kikuyu1:nice one. Finally someone in the know separates myth from fact.. a prof of economics nonetheless. Half trillion economy indeed!! Can we start a sub thread on agricultural production, and the sophistication of the agricultural value chains in both countries? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:27pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Niger delta states (cross river (Calabar) better than ugly small Swahili mombasa,Eldoret,Nakuru and Kisumu combined ) 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:28pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
more of cross river Calabar (niger delta) 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 1:33pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:Tell that to the 1m tourist who visit Kenya every year on their vacation. Or the thousands of Italians in Malindi town who have made Kenya their second home. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:43pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
688..., a weird name. Your obsession with the Indians, Whites and Somalis is beyond me. In Nairobi your land lord is a kikuyu, second and third largest supermarket chains are owned by kikuyus. etc Since you know Kenya so much, why dont you mention the Kikuyus and the impact. They were around 7 million Kikuyus lcounted during the last census. And there is this article I found online https://www.modernghana.com/news/455846/africas-most-entrepreneurial-ethnic-groups.html Igbo of Nigeria The Igbos of Nigeria are Africa's most energetic and most entrepreneurial people. They are not ancient traders but emerged much more recently with the onset of the British colonialism. Through sheer grit, hard work and a talent for spotting new opportunities, they emerged as the dominant traders and business leaders as Nigeria raced towards independence in the mid 50s. The Igbo dominance of Nigeria's commerce and industry was one of the reasons that led to the Biafran war. Today you can find Igbo traders all over the world from South Africa, Kenya, Ivory Coast, China, Japan, the United States, Hong Kong, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Ireland, Vietnam, India amongst others. They are mostly merchants although a significant number have diversified into industry, banking, and transportation and service businesses. Researchers have identified the Igbos along with the Ashkenazi Jews and the Swiss Protestants as the people with the greatest achievement motivation in the world. Kikuyu of Kenya Like Nigeria's Igbos, Kenya's Kikuyu established businesses with the onset of colonialism. Since Kenya's pre-colonial economy was entirely in the hand of white settlers, many Kikuyu businesses emerged following Kenya's independence in 1963. Today, the Kikuyu run businesses straddling virtually all sectors of the Kenyan economy ranging from transportation, retail trade, tourism and hospitality, manufacturing, and much more. Kikuyu business communities can be found in virtually all East African cities such as Kampala, Kigali, Juba, Kinshasa, Bujumbura, Dar es Salaam and in countries such as the United States, Britain and China. The Somali With their country in shambles for over two decades, one can easily assume that the Somali must be the most impractical people with the worst management skills. But if their success in business is put into consideration, nothing could be further from the truth. The Somalis rank amongst some of Africa's most entrepreneurial communities. They mainly operate as merchants owning several stalls and are dominant in import-export trade due to their networks in Dubai and Guangzhou. You will find Somalis in businesses such as imports of clothes, shoes, watches, laptops and other manufactured goods mainly from Asia. Export trader mainly involves miraa or khat to Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea and the Arabian Peninsula. In recent years, many Somalis have diversified into transportation, hospitality and banking. chagga and akan complete the list Kikuyus are Kenyan and black African,and you never mention them, you want to show how Black in my country are hopeless. If you know Kenya why don't you mention the Kikuyus?? 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:50pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightYagami: "I think we have one world class stadium," not even sure? nigga you only have two ugly ass stadiums nyayo and Kasarani ....... can you compare your statdiums with this
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:58pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightYagami:wrong notation,in Nigeria every tribes have great people and hard working people as well,the richest people in Nigeria are not even Igbos, they are Yorubas and Hausas, Igbos are very entrepreneurs and they are quite hardworking but they don't control Nigeria, they only controls their businesses, unlike Kenya where Kikuyu dominate the rest of market left behind by Indians and whites , plus the topic is not about which/what tribes controls what and what...let stick to the topic poor black Kikuyu boy 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:1. You clearly do not know anything about Tax havens. MTN is incorporated in Mauritius,So are several Kenyan locally owned companies like TransCentury. They do so to save on taxes. MTN's owners are all South African. Even in Kenya, many companies do so to minimise their tax as Mauritius and Kenya have a tax agreement. 2.Kenya Pipeline has ZERO Indians!!SMH!! In fact, the current accusation is that 90% of the employees are from two tribes!! The tribes currently in power. There are no non African Kenyans in Kenya Pipeline at all!!http://venasnews.co.ke/2016/01/22/charles-keter-sacks-kenya-pipeline-md-flora-okoth-and-replaces-her-with-nephew-joe-sang/ 3.KETRACO transmits 97% of Kenya's electricity, the remaining 3% is done by Kenya Power which used to do the original transmission but the Government took the transmission department of Kenya Power and made it into KETRACO. Kenya Power however still owns some transmission lines in the Rift Valley. Both are Government parastatals. So Government Property in all cases. 4.KENGEN has asset base of nearly 2 billion dollars.It is ever adding capacity with 700 MW in the pipeline in the next year and over 3000 MW in the long run. Its revenue is currently low as it mostly sells Hydro power for $0.025 per kilowatt-hour when private companies sell Thermal Power for $0.19 per kilowatt-hour. Kengen has very few Thermal power plants And it produces 1,500 MW, not GW. In Gigawatthours, it is 5.5 GWh As it invests in Wind power and Geothermal, its revenue will continue rising as Geothermal goes for $0.05 per kilowatt-hour and Wind for 0.07 per kilowatt-hour. 5.Again, you try to excuse MTN which is owned 18% by Nigerians AT MOST but you hit on Safaricom which is 60% owned by Kenyans Which part of 35% of Safaricom is owned by the Government of Kenya and 25% is owned by Kenyans through the Nairobi Stock Exchange DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? The other 82% of MTN has No Nigerians!!I have checked!! 6.And Glo has a subscriber base of 36.3 million as of August 2016, nowhere near the 80 million you are falsely claiming.http://www.brandessencenigeria.com/glos-subscriber-base-climbs-to-36-3m-adds-5million-new-lines-in-1-year/ 7.Oh, Please!!52% means the Government has control of the company while the investors(Lafarge) bring in the technology. The latest technology As for Dagonte, he will face a market where his company will pay 35% corporate tax(compared to the 20% for Kenyan companies listed on the stock exchange as our largest cement companies are ) if he retains a 100% shareholding. He will thus have to sell some of the stock to....The Government of Kenya just like Lafarge did when it created Bamburi cement.20% of Bamburi is owned by NSSF. Otherwise, he will follow the path of South African companies that refused to do so.They are all gone. Even DSTV in Kenya is owned by Multichoice which is 60% owned by DSTV South Africa and 40% by KBC, A Government Parastatal.http://www.rapidtvnews.com/2012022219957/kenya-broadcasting-corp-and-multichoice-face-competition-probe.html Liquid Telcom's Kenya unit is partially owned by the former owners of KDN(the company they acquired). Who include the Government of Kenya Pan Africa Insurance, a South African Insurer went to the Nairobi Stock Exchange so as to 'Kenyanise'. South Africa's Standard Bank(known as Stanbic in East Africa) merged with CFC Bank which is owned by people formerly in power to form the present CFC Stanbic Bank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanbic_Holdings_Plc#CfC_Bank_Limited These are the only South African companies operating in Kenya apart from the Game having one supermarket at Garden City Mall. If the retailer decides to grow, the Government will ask for a share or the company goes public. All other South African companies that refused to bend to the Government of Kenya's will were shunned by the public(as local companies waged a campaign against them) and pressured by Government.I am thinking Tesco,Massmart,Nandos, SAB Miller. Even Airtel was at some point told to sell part of its shareholding to Kenyans(As its competitors Safaricom is 60% owned by Kenyans and Orange is 40% owned by the Government of Kenya) https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2012/10/16/bharti-airtel-required-to-sell-15-of-airtel-kenya-by-april-2013/ Dude, the GOVERNMENT OF KENYA is the controller of Kenya's economy.Not Indians,Not Whites, Not Somalis, not Even Kikuyus who have more wealth than all the other three put together. THE GOVERNMENT OF KENYA!!Sirkal!! Please, when you make allegations like 'Kenya Pipeline is run by Indians' back it up!!!Making statements with no proof makes you sound like an Sub-human infantile dude who barfs out statements like a robot with corrupt software. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:Errm those are Roads of Marsabit and Isiolo. The dual Carrigeway is actually in Marsabit Town!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
GERALD710: I like that , it seems like you have gone to conduct more research on wiki, well, i will still burst your ass wide open, let me start with this. Again, you try to excuse MTN which is owned 18% by Nigerians AT MOST but you hit on Safaricom which is 60% owned by Kenyans Which part of 35% of Safaricom is owned by the Government of Kenya and 25% is owned by Kenyans through the Nairobi Stock Exchange DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? The other 82% of MTN has No Nigerians!!I have checked!! Now tell me what of % stake does Nigerians owns in Glo AND and now compare is with your so called "Safaricom "? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:11pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:Glo is not Nigeria's top Mobile telco .MTN is . We are comparing the top companies in communications in Kenya. Safaricom is No.1 in Kenya while MTN is No. 1 in Nigeria Otherwise, I can also ask what percentage of Wananchi Group is owned by Kenyans(100% btw) as it is also a telco in Kenya. SMH And no info that I posted is from Wiki.I know Kenya better than you do. So far, I have proven that THE GOVERNMENT OF KENYA is the biggest shareholder in much of Kenya. Not Indians, Whites, Somalis or entepreneural tribes like Kikuyus. THE GOVERNMENT. OF KENYA!! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:14pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
And you are here making noise about Somalis. Lemme educate you 688.... Somalis are an ethnic group found in Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti mostly. That's where their native land is. 9million in Somalia, 4.5 million in Ogaden region of Ethiopia, around 2.5 million in North Eastern Province of Kenya and around 500k in Djibouti. It is called Soomaaliweyn(Greater Somalia). They have equal rights under the constitution as any Kenyan. So if you find a rich somali he is Kenyan as a rich Kikuyu is. And here is one example Our Secretary of Foreign Affairs is Somali by tribe. She is also representing running to be AU president. Hope she wins. She was in your country looking for votes btw. There she is You are here segregating people on tribal and race lines. tbh if you were white you would be in the KKK, maybe a treasurer there. Talking about race shows howlowly of a human you. We make progress as a nation not as some race or isht. The majority part of Africa is poor if you compare it to the west and that is a thing we are trying to change. We have raised salaries of teachers in public schools, doctors, etc. I suspect they are paid double what the nigerian government pays theirs. Again you can prove me wrong. I have no data on that. You have not seen a Kenyan hurling random insults, I know there is some Lebanese Nigerian who is developing Eko Pearl or something like that but you dont see me here saying he is Lebanese. Do you?? He is developing your country as a Nigerian. And yes, this thread was started by a Nigerian, not a Kenyan. Thats says a lot btw here is Amina 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:17pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightYagami:Do Somalis called them self Kenyans or even blacks ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:23pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Geniuses,tell me smth! Recently Botswana borrowed our KRA guys. I n Summary http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-to-lend-its-tax-expertise-to-Botswana-after-historic-deal/539546-3473032-view-printVersion-ljhyld/index.html Why not neighbouring Southies or the 'Giants (lol)?' Their GDP PPP is the highest in Africa at 15k $:thats real not juju concoction by Okada boys. Here's why-they know our ish is real!! In the 60s after uhuru they wanted to set up a national meat export biz. Who did they turn to? The Kenya meat commission! They export worldwide while we fell off in the Moi era and have never really recovered. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:29pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:Yes they do consider themselves kenyans. It is not a big deal, Kenya is a country with everyone in it. I know hordes and they are Kenyan. Some wealthy ones try to run for president and stuff. But then again you know more about people of Kenya than I do. Are they black? I have posted picture of Amina, I bet she looks white to you You are one self hating black man, do you know that?? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:29pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
68816419:Last I checked, the likes of Sarah Hassan and Yvonne Maingey are half Somali and half other Kenyan tribes so what are you talking about?? Amina Mohammed was not even raised amongst Somalis. She was raised in Western Kenya amongst Luhyias!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:35pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
I am sure this one hates being Kenyan.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Yeah and there are many non somalis with Islamic names too. I am sure you were at the coast |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by highheybee: 2:38pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Kenyanstar: Derailing which means you want to keep the thread going but someone like me is sick of this thread...it's disgusting...when someine that's not on the same level with you drag stuffs with you,yoi get sick of it...I won't be arguing with my younger brother....Kenyans are trying hard hard prove their selves....but we don't care...it's literally obvious you are way behind....we are better by far |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:47pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
The other day I was on Quora, a site, maybe you know it, for questions and answers. Saw this Indian chica answer some random question I am sure she hates being Kenyan too https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-Kenyans-have-Indian-names Even stalked her to prove a point to you. Now show me someone who hates being Kenyan. Other than that, dont include races in your argument 688.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:52pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Don't include race in your arguments. I wouldnt mind statistics and pictures. I am happy when I see an African country developing. You should also be. When a 300m building is erected, don't be bitter. Like you cannot see me being bitter when you play for the world cup. People here actually support your team at the world cup, feels nice you winning things. I am not a huge football fan though. I like rugby and cricket more. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:55pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightYagami:Yes ,A person who hates being Kenyan can have a signature entitled "Kenya is and will always be home." Are you slow minded or what?? Since when did a person who hates being Kenyan proudly declare her home is Kenya. She is indeed a Patriot!! SMH. Why do many Kenyans have Kikuyu sounding names Answer:Because 22% of Kenyans are of Kikuyu ethnicity. Did you expect Asians to adopt Kenyan names when they came here? Do Asians in the US change their names when they go there?? SMH!! |
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