Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

Is that why you want to start crying

I wanna believe Olugbo is envious of The Ooni of the Whole World. #Iferemainsouraccenstralhome. #OoniremainsthespiritualandthemostreveredmonarchinYorubarace. #Olugbolacksrespect. Take it or leave it.

As an historian this two monarchs are making a point,the Olugbo started from the scratch to the pregeneration of Oduduwa but Ooni started from the surface all are making a point,Ooni have said all what we need is Peace not supremacy tursle we love you all,kabiesiooo.

Who is supreme between both of them... woe unto man made from the dust.. and return to the dust... Only God is supreme...

OLUGBO might be right but he should do his research very well. We can't compare OONI with OLUGBO when it comes to YORUBA history.

mascotafltd:
As an historian this two monarchs are making a point,the Olugbo started from the scratch to the pregeneration of Oduduwa but Ooni started from the surface all are making a point,Ooni have said all what we need is Peace not supremacy tursle we love you all,kabiesiooo.

Abi o.. Now from the two,, who deserves the royal crown??

One who is trying to turn its people against each other? Or the other who propagates peace among its people?

RillJ:
Be content bro, Oduduwa originated from the nearby Edo, not Mecca n certainly not from the sky. The Yoruba however find this tough to accept for obvious reasons.

Yet to prove same.

They are both right.

Moremi is regarded as a traitor in ugbo land while ife regards her as a heroine

IAmOged:
Oduduwa was the first man to institute the monarch throne ruling system of government in ile ife rivalry to oba tala...they both fought for the stool but odua became victorious..
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odua is an ife indigene..he is from ife.
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its true since events documentations took long to be discovered in ife..reason for all dis mix up...
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historical facts is different from Myth
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but one thing that we should all know is no history is accurate....
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history are written by victors..
by the powerfuls...

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and we all know Oni is a son from an illegitimate wife...
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oranyan should have been ife king if his father okanbi had waited for his arrival from the journey to bring healing water for the kings ailment.

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solution..

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the real history of yoruba is with IFA
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the history book of yoruba is IFA..
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if you want the fact....consult IFA

Ifa is a blind god who sees nothing but talks too much

Story for the gods

perryy:


Ifa is a blind god who sees nothing but talks too much

And What do barbarians toYoruba Cultures and traditions like you know about IFA?
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Go and sit down joor....

Ugbo needs to be given a slap worthy of a royal idiot.

Moremi was like an undercover in the Ugbo kingdom, she pretended to like the Ugbo ruler who was besotted by her then so she could find out the secret behind their power so she could save her people in Ile-Ife.. . Is that why she's a traitor?? Rubbish!

She's a heroine among us, Yorubas so that Mongrel of an Ugbo should STFU

What has the Igbos got to do with yoruba history....

They should face their own wahala about supremacy and leave the Igbos out of it.


Nna eh.....ike gwuru

perryy:


Ifa is a blind god who sees nothing but talks too much

You need a slap, tbh

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

Take yourself outside your body and examine yourself. Don't you just wanna wail at the obvious waste of God's time when creating you?

Tolexander:
Obat seems to be just wealthy but lacks the place of reasoning and understanding on this Moremi issue!

Moremi had a strategy to liberate her people (Ife) from the incessant raids by the ugbo in masquerade-like costumes, this made them looked like super being . She went to River Esinmirin to pray and promised to sacrifice his son, Oluorogbo, to the river if she comes back.

During the next ugbo raid, Moremi surrendered herself to be captured and taken to ugboland. There she was married by the king for some years. She got to know the secret of these ugbo people and sneaked out one day back to Ife.

The following raid by the ugbo, Moremi had prepared her people (Ife) against the raid, the ugbo raiders were conquered and defeated. That ends the incessant raid by the ugbos on Ife land.

Ife is strategic place in the historical values of Yoruba people, how would someone in the place of King Obateru tell the Yoruba race not to celebrate the liberator (or liberatress if there is a place of feminizing) of the town, Ife?

Just like telling the Europeans not to celebrate Arthur Wellesley for conquering Napoleon Bonaparte at the battle of Waterloo, when France had almost got the whole of Europe to herself. Though France may not like him.

Or telling the Jews to call Queen Esther a villain for saving her people from Hamman

What is this one writing? So the Ugbos are not Yoruba's?

To Ife Moremi was a heroine and to the Ugbos she was a betrayal an Afonja!

She did not rescue the Yoruba race but Ile-Ife. If you studied your history very well you'll know the Ugbo's were the original inhabitants of Ife before the arrival of the Benin Prince who sacked them and almost sent them into the sea.

Tolexander:
Obat seems to be just wealthy but lacks the place of reasoning and understanding on this Moremi issue!

Moremi had a strategy to liberate her people (Ife) from the incessant raids by the ugbo in masquerade-like costumes, this made them looked like super being . She went to River Esinmirin to pray and promised to sacrifice his son, Oluorogbo, to the river if she comes back.

During the next ugbo raid, Moremi surrendered herself to be captured and taken to ugboland. There she was married by the king for some years. She got to know the secret of these ugbo people and sneaked out one day back to Ife.

The following raid by the ugbo, Moremi had prepared her people (Ife) against the raid, the ugbo raiders were conquered and defeated. That ends the incessant raid by the ugbos on Ife land.

Sounds like a story from Tales by moonlight

Tolexander:
Obat seems to be just wealthy but lacks the place of reasoning and understanding on this Moremi issue!

Moremi had a strategy to liberate her people (Ife) from the incessant raids by the ugbo in masquerade-like costumes, this made them looked like super being . She went to River Esinmirin to pray and promised to sacrifice his son, Oluorogbo, to the river if she comes back.

During the next ugbo raid, Moremi surrendered herself to be captured and taken to ugboland. There she was married by the king for some years. She got to know the secret of these ugbo people and sneaked out one day back to Ife.

The following raid by the ugbo, Moremi had prepared her people (Ife) against the raid, the ugbo raiders were conquered and defeated. That ends the incessant raid by the ugbos on Ife land.

Ife is strategic place in the historical values of Yoruba people, how would someone in the place of King Obateru tell the Yoruba race not to celebrate the liberator (or liberatress if there is a place of feminizing) of the town, Ife?

Just like telling the Europeans not to celebrate Arthur Wellesley for conquering Napoleon Bonaparte at the battle of Waterloo, when France had almost got the whole of Europe to herself. Though France may not like him.

Or telling the Jews to call Queen Esther a villain for saving her people from Hamman

Thank you sir. Kindly pay the two Obas a visit and lecture them on the history of the Yoruba's.

To set the record straight, Moremi remains a traitor. She was a slave captured by Ugbo warriors during one of their many raids on Ile-Ife. She later became the wife of Osangangan Obamakin, the son of Oranfe, of who was the paramount ruler of over 13 aboriginal communities of ancient Ugbomokun, which later came to be called Ile Ife.”[b][/b]
Raid

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

who are useless pple? Ure a senseless person. Idiot! Olugbo is arogant because he has money. He does not know d real history of yoruba land. Ugbo village's populatn is not up 150 pple.

Moremi can never be called a traitor. She was once an indigene of Ile Ife, she was captured by ugbos during Ile Ife raid, Who was made a slave and later became a wife of osangagan.
Ile Ife has every right to call Moremi hero by not forgetting her root. Why would osangangan marry Moremi when he knew she was from Ile Ife? Ugbos can't claim Ile Ife because they possessed the place through raid,that was why Moremi who was from Ile Ife could betrayed osangangan for the sake of people of ife. Can you raid your own home? I don't agree with ugbos

Dem don chop belle full nii...no b their fault...please carry on with the battle, nothing do both of ya!

diz guys are just clueless. were buhari?

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"the Chairman of
Yoruba Obas Committee on Peace and
Reconciliation, has suddenly without a deep
knowledge of Yoruba history, woken up to see
royal controversy as the only tool for cheap
publicity.”

yoiubas will have to rethink their history what is in the public domain is just but a fairy tale. First the benin kingdom questioned their history, now insiders are also doubting their own tales

iChar:
They should quit it jurh


When two elephants fight, the grass suffers

It's more like an elephant and a grasshopper. Who is Olugbo in the scheme of things in Yoruba history? Someone is just seeking relevance.

fotadmowmend:
HMMM... Both are right. If you describe Moremi as a heroine you are right but to ugbo people she's a traitor. She 'betrays' her husband to save her people. What do u expect from a slave girl who becomes queen?

Even Queen Esther in the bible, with her position helped and liberated her people!!!

I know the true history but there's no point talking about it since blindness in part has happened to Israel, when the time comes you guys will know the truth at the same, when the veil is lifted up from your "faces".

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

you are the useless one. the Yoruba culture and system of governance is unique and it was in existence back when your people were still busy chasing rabbits naked in the bush. you can hate all you want but Yoruba has the richest history of war lords, kings, empires and conquests in southern Nigeria.

they are both correct.

to Ile-Ife, Moremi is a warrior, a heroine who save her people from the hands of terrorists while to the Olugbos Moremi could be a traitor for exposing the Olugbo secret because as a wife of the Osagangan, she isnt suppose to do that

I rest my case!