A40:

Run? You don't have a prayer

You keep running from the simple question that you asked.

"Why have those individual awards not been converted to titles? "


A40 why is Messi not overrated? Afterall where are his titles?

Where are his titles bro?

If Messi that lost in the Finals of a tournament is a failure then how much more the ones from a country that have not gotten to said Finals in 50 years

A40:

[s]You are a phoolish ewok. If only intelligence could be donated like blood perhaps your case would not be such a hopeless one. Who cares if he took 16 penalties in 300 seasons.[/s]
Focusing on goals scored via open play we can now see that Batistuta averaged .53 goals per game which gives him a negligible .02 edge on Elber. Which proves me right once again. [s]Considering Elber at times supported Jancker sef it would take someone under the influence of potent Abraka igbo to argue that they are not comparable[/s]

I will like to see how you look in real life. I am imagining a dejo tunfulu kinda look, it must be in tandem with senseless stuffs you spew here.

Pataki:

A40 is a tadpole. He needs ramuzaki to stand.

A40:
If Messi that lost in the Finals of a tournament is a failure then how much more the ones from a country that have not gotten to said Finals in 50 years

The only way you can justify your gaffe is to compare Argentina to England.

Your criteria in your original post were very clear.

Your post does not ask for quarters, semis etc. It does not ask for comparison to other teams.

It simply asks for titles.

Where are the titles A40?

This is why I said that post was an exhibition in very poor logic because you cannot defend your stance purely within the parameters set in that post.

You have to look at semis and qualifiers. You have to ask what happens when Messi did not play etc...

The moment you start giving reasons why a lack of titles isn't necessarily failure, then your entire post questioning Lampard's lack of titles becomes utterly pointless...and is that what you want bro?

Long Essay like that to be rendered pointless crap?

Come on bro, I'm sure you can show us Messi's titles...

airmark:


I will like to see how you look in real life. I am imagining a dejo tunfulu kinda look, it must be in tandem with senseless stuffs you spew here.



A40 is a tadpole. He needs ramuzaki to stand.

I am glad everyone is clearly now seeing the Excel guguru worksheet for who it really is.

Have you noticed how Apari Ramuzaki is using style/code to tell it to abandon its foolish arguments?

Failing != Failing to win a title

You are mashing up different parts of my posts and coming up with childish conclusions

A40:
Failing != Failing to win a title

You are mashing up different parts of my posts and coming up with childish conclusions

At all bro.

Your misyarns were all contained in one post.

If we take it to Object Oriented design, we can say that your post was very well encapsulated.

You asked where the titles were and very clearly indicated that lack of titles was synonymous with failure.

Those are absolute terms which should be true in all scenarios.

Making a semi final of a major tournament is success on its own since only 1 team can win the whole thing

Argentina makes semi final, Holland makes semi finals, ENgland has not made a semi final in 20yrs and a major final in 50yrs despite all their useless award winning players upandan

raumdeuter:
Making a semi final of a major tournament is success on its own since only 1 team can win the whole thing

Argentina makes semi final, Holland makes semi finals, ENgland has not made a semi final in 20yrs and a major final in 50yrs despite all their useless award winning players upandan

These are relative terms.

Argentina in the Finals is successful relative to England in 2nd round.

Argentina in finals is a failure relative to Germany and Chile who won.

However that is a very different discussion.

A40s post deals in very absolute terms.

A player is not overrated? Where are his titles? If he keeps failing year in year out, the player is overrated.

His own words from his own mouth.

Why can't he stand by them?

Nihilist:


The only way you can justify your gaffe is to compare Argentina to England.

Your criteria in your original post were very clear.

Your post does not ask for quarters, semis etc. It does not ask for comparison to other teams.

It simply asks for titles.

Where are the titles A40?

This is why I said that post was an exhibition in very poor logic because you cannot defend your stance purely within the parameters set in that post.

You have to look at semis and qualifiers. You have to ask what happens when Messi did not play etc...

The moment you start giving reasons why a lack of titles isn't necessarily failure, then your entire post questioning Lampard's lack of titles becomes utterly pointless...and is that what you want bro?

Long Essay like that to be rendered pointless crap?

Come on bro, I'm sure you can show us Messi's titles...

This is why I said you are chasing your tail. No gaffe was made

I asked for titles. I didn't say not winning them can be regarded as failure. Numerous teams fall into this bracket so your understanding is shallow, piss poor and laughable

Johan Cruyff never won a major international title. So please apply common sense

I was pretty clear when I stated why England could be considered failures and it had nothing to do with them not winning titles. You are pulling a strawman bruh

Pataki:


I am glad everyone is clearly now seeing the Excel guguru worksheet for who it really is.

Have you noticed how Apari Ramuzaki is using style/code to tell it to abandon its foolish arguments?

He is a joke. I have noticed you always use it for a40, is it because it is ajakaja ?

A40:

This is why I said you are chasing your tail. No gaffe was made

I asked for titles. I didn't say not winning them can be regarded as failure. Numerous teams fall into this bracket so your understanding is shallow, piss poor and laughable

Johan Cruyff never won a major international title. So please apply common sense

I was pretty clear when I stated why England could be considered failures and it had nothing to do with them not winning titles. You are pulling a strawman bruh

A40:

This is why I said you are chasing your tail. No gaffe was made

I asked for titles. I didn't say not winning them can be regarded as failure. Numerous teams fall into this bracket so your understanding is shallow, piss poor and laughable

Johan Cruyff never won a major international title. So please apply common sense

I was pretty clear when I stated why England could be considered failures and it had nothing to do with them not winning titles. You are pulling a strawman bruh

Why are you lying though?

1. You asked for titles.

2. You asked for performance similar to the arguably the most dominant team in sports history

3. You described the absence of both as failure.

Why would you ask for title if title does not mean anything?

Do you go to a bukka and ask for agbada? Do you go to a petrol station and ask for a tuber of yam?

Why ask such a pointless question then?

Nihilist:


At all bro.

Your misyarns were all contained in one post.

If we take it to Object Oriented design, we can say that your post was very well encapsulated.

You asked where the titles were and very clearly indicated that lack of titles was synonymous with failure.

Those are absolute terms which should be true in all scenarios.

Naah. Clearly you are using the concept of Encapsulation wrong

My post on titles and actual failure are like two paragraphs apart. I could be talking of an entirely different subject matter.

History is fraught with great players that didn't win major titles. That you assume i would tie success or failure solely to that shows your lack of understanding

I took time to clarify my stance in subsequent posts if I sounded ambigious ab initio yet you are still dropping more megedefegede

Nihilist:
These are relative terms.

Argentina in the Finals is successful relative to England in 2nd round.

Argentina in finals is a failure relative to Germany and Chile who won.

However that is a very different discussion.

A40s post deals in very absolute terms.

A player is not overrated? Where are his titles? If he keeps failing year in year out, the player is overrated.

His own words from his own mouth.

Why can't he stand by them?

So since you understand the crux of the matter care to explain why the award winning FIFA and UEFA multi winning players of Engerland cant even make a semi final

That either means the awards are useless or John Terry being the useless 2 left legged player he is was just raining on their parade

airmark:

Bruh I just weak.

I asked for titles but it doesn't matter of titles no dey...

Gosh...

A40 must be made of plasticine the way he twist turns and doubles back...

Nihilist:


Bruh I just weak.

I asked for titles but it doesn't matter of titles no dey...

Gosh...

A40 must be made of plasticine the way the twist turns and doubles back...

I am just laughing right here. It still has a lot to learn from dayo.

Nihilist:


These are relative terms.

Argentina in the Finals is successful relative to England in 2nd round.

Argentina in finals is a failure relative to Germany and Chile who won.

However that is a very different discussion.

A40s post deals in very absolute terms.

Where are his titles? If he keeps failing year in year out, the player is overrated.

His own words from his own mouth.

Why can't he stand by them?

I thought you were trolling but I can see you are genuinely confused.

That a team did not win a tournament does not mean they were failures at said tournament. The question is titles or not which major tournament can we say England succeeded at

I'm assuming you now understand you can be a success at a tournament without necessarily winning it

A40:

1.You will never understand the concept of overrated players with that your brain wey dey always do paku paku like I pass my neighbor generator. Why have those individual awards not been converted to titles?

While trying to explain the concept of overrated players, A40 asks why individual awards have not been converted to titles....


But titles don't mean anything....

A40:

[s]I thought you were trolling but I can see you are genuinely confused.

That a team did not win a tournament does not mean they were failures at said tournament. The question is titles or not which major tournament can we say England succeeded at[/s]

I'm assuming you now understand you can be a success at a tournament without necessarily winning it

Terry was a success at world cup 2006 without winning the cup. Gradually, your brain will be formatted and primed subconsciously.

2

Owen, Beckham, Ferdinand, Lampard, Terry have all won multiple individual awards so simple logic dictates that these amalgam of stars in one team should be beasting and destroying teams like the 92 Dream Team

Titles don't mean anything despite asking for performance similar to one of the most dominant sports teams in history

Nihilist:


Why are you lying though?

1. You asked for titles.

2. You asked for performance similar to the arguably the most dominant team in sports history

3. You described the absence of both as failure.

Why would you ask for title if title does not mean anything?

Do you go to a bukka and ask for agbada? Do you go to a petrol station and ask for a tuber of yam?

Why ask such a pointless question then?

This is high grade megedefegede. Biko what is your native dialect maybe what I am saying has been lost in translation.

Where are their titles? And subsequently I went on to highlight that they failed not because they didn't win any titles but because they consistently failed to even play to their supposed level

Then you bring out another team who actually came closest to winning these titles as a counter to my points. When I have clearly highlighted you can succeed at a tournament without winning it

Confusion of the highest order

3.

The question then for any intelligent mind is why do they keep failing year in year out? The odd outlier or bad tournament is understandable but when this collective keep failing every two years like clockwork only a certified crazeman like you would not see that these players are overrated

Yet the top rated South American team flopping at 3 finals in a row is not a failure. Losing twice in a row to Chile the massive underdogs is not a failure...

A40 ladies and gentlemen...master contortionist at his best.

Nihilist:
2

Titles don't mean anything despite asking for performance similar to one of the most dominant sports teams in history

Based on the talent assumed to be on their roster it is a valid expectation

Should they fail to reach such heights then at the very minimum they should be able to get to the latter stages of said competitions

Bringing up a team that lost at the furthest stage as an example of failure shows serious misunderstanding on your part

Nihilist:
3.
Yet the top rated South American team flopping at 3 finals in a row is not a failure. Losing twice in a row to Chile the massive underdogs is not a failure...

A40 ladies and gentlemen...master contortionist at his best.

Losing on penalties in the Finals is flopping? The same Chile that nearly knocked out Brazil on their own soil na him you dey call 'massive underdog'

Losing to Germany in extra time is flopping?

We can also say Holland flopped in 74 and 2010

Walahi only Abraka igbo fit cause this kin craze

airmark:


I will like to see how you look in real life. I am imagining a dejo tunfulu kinda look, it must be in tandem with senseless stuffs you spew here.


A40 is a tadpole. He needs ramuzaki to stand.

Apoche cra cra nobody wants to know what you look like which is probably the lovechild of a bat and a bonobo monkey. Your stewpidity has been made manifest again. Who is the Boateng in the English National team? Oponu always making burukutu analogies

On the one hand I am not standing on my own yet from the other side of Pataki Bobriskyy's sémen clogged mouth raumdeuter has left me to my argument.

What else can be expected from two drunk, gender confused mofos intoxicated off each other's DNA

A40:
If Messi that lost in the Finals of a tournament is a failure then how much more the ones from a country that have not gotten to said Finals in 50 years

Kaka??

airmark:


Terry was a success at world cup 2006 without winning the cup. Gradually, your brain will be formatted and primed subconsciously.

Ewu. Is that the only tournament he played in? Your brains should be fed to boerbels, it is neither useful to you nor the society at large

AdisaOwala:

Kaka??

You do know Kaka has a WC medal right?

A40:

You do know Kaka has a WC medal right?

Kaka was a passenger in Brazil's squad at the 2002 WC - he only played 25 mins in the whole tourney!

A40:

Losing on penalties in the Finals is flopping? The same Chile that nearly knocked out Brazil on their own soil na him you dey call 'massive underdog'

Losing to Germany in extra time is flopping?

Only Abraka igbo fit cause this kin craze

You are the one that does not understand the criteria you set.

Let us apply your own faulty logic to Messi and Argentina

1. Where are the trophies - Messi has none

2. They should be dominate teams in the same way as the Dream Team of 92.

Argentina at the worldcup struggled to get to the Finals via extra time and PKs. Lost in the final. Not a dominant performance

Argentina at Copa 15 struggled against teams they were favourites to beat. Got to finals via some PK games. Lost in the final to the bookies underdog. Not a dominant performance


Argentina at Copa 16 struggled against teams they were favourites to beat. Got to finals via some PK games. Lost in the final to the bookies underdog. Not a dominant performance

3. Any team that consistently fails must be overrated. Outliers or bad tournaments can be forgiven.

Argentina Failed at WC - Outlier that can be forgiven

Lost to Chile Copa 15. Underdogs who had beaten Argentina only 8 times in their history compared to Argentina's history of over 50 wins. Failure number 1


Lost to Chile Copa 16. Underdogs who had beaten Argentina only 9 times in their history compared to Argentina's history of over 50 wins. Failure number 2. This also consecutive.

A40 by your faulty logic Messi is overrated. QED.

A40 - Raul??