airmark:
I didnt ask you where he belongs. I asked, is he overrated? Let us know if a40 is getting ravaged in stvpidity.

Use your own sense for once, Many people here have explained the term to you yet you are still misbehaving like an out of control bicycle

Eruditor:


Like I keep saying this does not need to be another Us vs them argument. You can see the point without coloring it with your own perspective or dismissing it willy-nilly because the same can be done to your own point.

1. For instance, saying something is not feasible is not a tenable way to argue because it is feasible (and you gave one instance where it could be the case) and then insisted that it is the only instance that could warrant the case. In logical terms this is flawed. There are more situations where the fatest man in the world could have a perennially slower time than others. That's not even the essence of the analogy, the simple
question following it is will such a person be less-deserving of the term?

NB: Accepting a tag doesn't mean I can not feel the title overrates the person.

2. You reeled out Kaka's awards but I didn't see Serie A player of the year 2007 which I know he was awarded that same year. His team was 4th and he scored 8 goals in 31 games yet he was rated the best. Is that not also overrating his performances at least in the serie A that year? Do you expect the best player in serie A to have such a miniscule nearing insignificant impact on his league like Kaka did that year? So why is A40 being impugned for mentioning Kaka's serie A fiasco as part of his reason for him being overrated?

Morron airmark, this is how sensible people reason not to gobble up and spit out everything you see on wikipedia and awards

WHat did he do to merit those awards are some of the questions sensible people will always ask, Thats where Terry and those English players fail everytime

Nihilist:


Honestly I have never seen anybody so willfully obtuse and incapable of comprehension...

Let me remind you that neither Airmark nor AdisaOwala are concerned with what happened to Kaka post 2007.

AdisaOwala clearly stated that Kaka in his peak period was clearly one of the best in the world and this cannot be said to be overrated

Airmark told you specifically that he is talking about WPOTY of 2007 not WPOTY of 2007-2015.

Why are you determined to dispute points thar nobody else but yourself is making?

Are you not tired?



So what about Ronaldinho's performance post 2005? Afterall he did not live up to his previous performances...he must be overrated.

What a dumb stance to assume.

The law of diminishing returns means that every player declines. Only a fool like yourself will look at a player's 'subsequent performances' to see whether the player was overrated or not.

This precisely the reason why both AdisaOwala and Airmark are not interested in the BS you keep spouting in such eloquent manner.

Even A40 refused to encourage such Inane arguments and based his decision to label Kaka overrated on league performance the year he won WPOTY.

Please gerrahia. Your mumuness is so annoying.

Even the women in my life don't seek my attention this much. You get all the ooouus and likes you want and it still doesn't satisfy you. "Stoopid, fool, obtuse, mumu" for someone who barely makes a post at you. Are you unhappy with your personal life? Where is all this vitriol coming from?

I thought you accused me of arguing with myself. What do you think you are doing now? I told you, you have got jokes and I mean it in the most deserving way.

FYI I clearly stated that Ronaldinho lived up to his WPOTY 04 status in 05 and that his post WPOTY 04 performance (especially in the following year) convinced someone like me who felt he was undeserving of it just the year before.

You are so quick to point out who reads and who comprehends well so I am assuming you'd figure out what to call yourself following this.

raumdeuter:


Morron airmark, this is how sensible people reason not to gobble up and spit out everything you see on wikipedia and awards

WHat did he do to merit those awards are some of the questions sensible people will always ask, Thats where Terry and those English players fail everytime

Did messi deserve to win WPOTY in 2010?

Eruditor:


Even the women in my life don't seek my attention this much. You get all the ooouus and likes you want and it still doesn't satisfy you. "Stoopid, fool, obtuse, mumu" for someone who barely makes a post at you. Are you unhappy with your personal life? Where is all this vitriol coming from?
.

Lmao at seek your attention.

You stuck your long ostrich neck into a discussion that did not concern you only to start vomiting uninformed rubbish.

How many more people are going to tell you to go and start from the beginning?

Nobody is debating whether Kaka is overrated. What we were discussing until you came along was a specific set of criteria that A40 mentioned.

So far, nobody has discussed whether any player deserved his award or not. We are merely discussing whether the criteria A40 described can be applied in isolation to any footballer while yielding consistent results.

FYI I clearly stated that Ronaldinho lived up to his WPOTY 04 status in 05 and that his post WPOTY 04 performance (especially in the following year) convinced someone like me who felt he was undeserving of it just the year before.

Nobody gives a rats arse about your opinions rewarding the WPOTY

You said and I quote:

".. someone's subsequent performances can act as validation for if he is rated rightly or overrated.."

Which is quite a daft position to take as the WPOTY award only considers a very specific historical timeframe.

The WPOTY is award for actions performed in the past. Only a fool like yourself will try to qualify the award with future events.

GTFOH nigga.

raumdeuter:


What is your own opinion on that? I believe Aguero is a tier 2 player

Who is tier 1

diggz:
Did messi deserve to win WPOTY in 2010?

In my opinion Messi didnt deserve to win 2010 awards

Nihilist:
Who is tier 1

Messi stands out and Ronaldo too

raumdeuter:


In my opinion Messi didnt deserve to win 2010 awards

Bros,if you can talk half the way you do on NL in the real world and walk the walk too, you will be unstoppable as a politician.

You get am for body bros, no be lie.....

raumdeuter:


Messi stands out and Ronaldo too

Standard.

There's no other player on their level right now.

So are you saying that other than those guys, Aguero is one of the best in the world today?

Eruditor:

[s]
Like I keep saying this does not need to be another Us vs them argument. You can see the point without coloring it with your own perspective or dismissing it willy-nilly because the same can be done to your own point.

1. For instance, saying something is not feasible is not a tenable way to argue because it is feasible (and you gave one instance where it could be the case) and then insisted that it is the only instance that could warrant the case. In logical terms this is flawed. There are more situations where the fatest man in the world could have a perennially slower time than others. That's not even the essence of the analogy, the simple
question following it is will such a person be less-deserving of the term?

NB: Accepting a tag doesn't mean I can not feel the title overrates the person.

2. You reeled out Kaka's awards but I didn't see Serie A player of the year 2007 which I know he was awarded that same year. His team was 4th and he scored 8 goals in 31 games yet he was rated the best. Is that not also overrating his performances at least in the serie A that year? Do you expect the best player in serie A to have such a miniscule nearing insignificant impact on his league like Kaka did that year? So why is A40 being impugned for mentioning Kaka's serie A fiasco as part of his reason for him being overrated?[/s]

I asked you a simple question, who deserved wpoty 2007, if not kaka ? You wrote all those lines and couldn't give a name? You needed to use that stale trick of bringing other stuffs to change the course of arguement. Though , i saw many flaws in what you wrote but i will ignore them because i understand the trick. Just tell me the player that deserved it 2007.

diggz:


Bros,if you can talk half the way you do on NL in the real world and walk the walk too, you will be unstoppable as a politician.

You get am for body bros, no be lie.....

As in.

Egbon raumdeuter is a criminal. Very slippery mofo.

A40 on the other hand is brutally direct and straight to the point. If he wasn't an IT guy, he would probably be in law enforcement or the military

raumdeuter:


[s]Use your own sense for once, Many people here have explained the term to you yet you are still misbehaving like an out of control bicycle[/s]

A40 stated that aguero was an overrated player, is it true? Are you now afraid of your slave ? At least he still revers you, he is always scared of your bald head. Now tell him he is a f00l for that view.

Nihilist:


As in.

Egbon raumdeuter is a criminal. Very slippery mofo.

A40 on the other hand is brutally direct and straight to the point. If he wasn't an IT guy, he would probably be in law enforcement or the military

He will be shot dead in the barracks.

Nihilist:


The WPOTY is award for actions performed in the past. Only a fool like yourself will try to qualify the award with future events.

GTFOH nigga.

I just weak for this eruditor. Is he from shahaniya?

diggz:

Bros,if you can talk half the way you do on NL in the real world and walk the walk too, you will be unstoppable as a politician.

You get am for body bros, no be lie.....

Wetin I don do now, Shey you go be my godfather?

An example

Say Mahrez is overrated

Next person (an award whorre) Goes to wikipedia and now says but he won PFA player of the year

diggz what do you think about that. Nihilist

Personally I will choose 5 attacking midfielders who have never won PFA player of the year in the league ahead of Mahrez

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airmark:
A40 stated that aguero was an overrated player, is it true? Are you now afraid of your slave ? At least he still revers you, he is always scared of your bald head. Now tell him he is a f00l for that view.

A40 said Aguero is an overrated player, first what do you understand by that statement?

You are notorious for being clueless that you cant locate your asss with both hands so I wont put it past you be foaming in the mouth as usual

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raumdeuter:


[s]A40 said AGuero is an overrated player, first what do you understand by that statement?

You are notorious for being clueless that you cant locate your asss with both hands so I wont put it past you be foaming in the mouth as usual[/s]

Gbenu orun e soun. Simple Yes or No you couldn't give because you know i will use your past gibberish to murk you. Apari oshi, using question to answer question. orie to yo igun bi choko milo yen

airmark:

Gbenu orun e soun. Simple Yes or No you couldn't give because you know i will use your past gibberish to murk you. Apari oshi, using question to answer question. orie to yo igun bi choko milo yen

Murk me? You have the nous of an algae. No be your type dey murk anyone for here. You are the joke here

raumdeuter:
An example

Say Mahrez is overrated

Next person (an award whorre) Goes to wikipedia and now says but he won PFA player of the year

diggz what do you think about that. Nihilist

Personally I will choose 5 attacking midfielders who have never won PFA player of the year in the league ahead of Mahrez

Is it possible for you to single out any attacking midfielder both past and present that was ahead of mahrez the year he won the PFA player of the year ?

raumdeuter:


Murk me? You have the nous of an algae. No be your type dey murk anyone for here. You are the joke here

Then, is aguero overrated or not ? Dont be afraid of a40, if he dumps bayern today he cant join man utd, arsenal or chelsea. Barcelona and madrid fans wont welcome him. He has a lot to lose, he will go into oblivion while you remain the oponu chairman of bayernliga on nl. Do the needful, is aguero overrated?

diggz:


Is it possible for you to single out any attacking midfielder both past and present that was ahead of mahrez the year he won the PFA player of the year ?

That is not the point. The point is despite Mahrez having the PFA awards there are IMO attacking midfielders better than him who have never won the awards

Which shows posting a players awards means nothing . And on the basis of awards saying Mahrez is better than those who havent won is overrating him

airmark:


I asked you a simple question, who deserved wpoty 2007, if not kaka ? You wrote all those lines and couldn't give a name? You needed to use that stale trick of bringing other stuffs to change the course of arguement. Though , i saw many flaws in what you wrote but i will ignore them because i understand the trick. Just tell me the player that deserved it 2007.

LOL. Just as I suspected. Christiano IMO deserved it. Ok please now answer my question.

Still on the issue of Mahrez as an example,

Is Mahrez a world class player?

diggz, nihilist a40

Nihilist:


Lmao at seek your attention.

You stuck your long ostrich neck into a discussion that did not concern you only to start vomiting uninformed rubbish.

How many more people are going to tell you to go and start from the beginning?

Nobody is debating whether Kaka is overrated. What we were discussing until you came along was a specific set of criteria that A40 mentioned.

So far, nobody has discussed whether any player deserved his award or not. We are merely discussing whether the criteria A40 described can be applied in isolation to any footballer while yielding consistent results.




Nobody gives a rats arse about your opinions rewarding the WPOTY

You said and I quote:

".. someone's subsequent performances can act as validation for if he is rated rightly or overrated.."

Which is quite a daft position to take as the WPOTY award only considers a very specific historical timeframe.

The WPOTY is award for actions performed in the past. Only a fool like yourself will try to qualify the award with future events.

GTFOH nigga.

Yes I did. The people I mentioned responded. You are the architect of minding your business I don't know why you responded. I didn't mention you. If I wanted to have a conversation with a woman on her period I can get them around me.

Nobody gives a rat's arse about my opinion but you keep responding to it. Talk about irony. The people I am conversing with, regardless of their predisposed biases are still keeping it relatively civil. If you hate yourself I don't need to be your punching bag. This is becoming groupie stuff. At this rate if someone says "In Eruditor's name you'd say Amen"

Please and please who has the playlist for tonight's party ?

Eruditor:


LOL. Just as I suspected. Christiano IMO deserved it. Ok please now answer my question.

With his paltry 3 CL goals that season?

raumdeuter:

Murk me? You have the nous of an algae. No be your type dey murk anyone for here. You are the joke here

Apari, is Aguero an overrated player or not? No need for spitting your useless saliva everywhere. Simple YES or NO will suffice.

Thank you.

AdisaOwala:

With his paltry 3 CL goals that season?

Guess what? I agree with you. Same way A40 cannot now be amiss to bring up Kaka's 8 Serie A goals and 4th place finish. I know the UCL is a bigger tournament. But you agree too that James Rodriguez shouldn't have been WPOTY 2014 simply because he scored 6 goals in the WC or that Gotze shouldn't have been player of the year simply because he "outperformed" Messi in the WC final that same year. If James was now voted WPOTY like Cannavaro was in 06 can't we say he was overrated?

I think that's the argument A40 is trying to make. That just because Kaka outperformed everyone in the UCL of 07 despite having a mediocre league season shouldn't have been enough to put him in the pantheon of WPsOTY.