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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by nwamehn: 9:43am On Dec 07, 2016
evansjeff:
More duplication of offices, confusion, supremacy battle, why not make the Chief Justice the Attorney General if you so want to limit the powers of the executive.

1. Have u seen a judge arguing a case in court before? The AGF is the federal government lawyer and the CJN is a judge, the head of all the judges in Nigeria.
2. If they make the CJN the AGF, and there is a politician he is prosecuting in court, u mean that a lower judge would be presiding over a case where the CJN is the prosecuting counsel?

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by MahatmaGhandi: 9:46am On Dec 07, 2016
If judges can be political how much more AGF. Nigeria needs detribalized leaders that will see the issues from the perspective of the real stakeholders and also understand the sentiments of the people.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by andersonbaba(f): 9:47am On Dec 07, 2016
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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by SillyMods: 9:49am On Dec 07, 2016
CSTR13:
In sane climes with functional and non-bigoted presidents, such powers belong to the president, like we see in America.
But here in Nigeria we have something else as president, so the senate has stepped up which is very good.
It is unfortunate that if Nigeria ever gets a decent president maybe in the next 200 years, his power would have been diluted down completely, thanks to the current buffoon we have in aso-rock.
You're obviously bitter and so pained that the ineffectual buffoon was kicked out.

Showeeeee grin

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by drnoel: 9:49am On Dec 07, 2016
evansjeff:
More duplication of offices, confusion, supremacy battle, why not make the Chief Justice the Attorney General if you so want to limit the powers of the executive.

My problem with this people is the motive behind this action. They want.someone they can control that would be approving Nolle prosequi for them anything a case is brought against them like the one brought againts Dogora.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by freeze001(f): 9:57am On Dec 07, 2016
bettercreature:
They are just wasting their time PMB wont sign these bills

The NASS has power to override the President. The NASS which represents the people cannot be completely knuckled down by a single individual in the executive.

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by nwamehn: 10:02am On Dec 07, 2016
seunmsg:


How will separating the office of the AGF and the justice ministry discourage looting?

I don't see the president signing this bill anyway but even if he signs, the separation will not achieve anything. The AGF will still dance to the tune of the president whether or not NJC is involved in his/her appointment. We will only end up duplicating the duties of the two offices and creating more bureaucracy to be funded by government. And in essence, more bureaucracy is more corruption.

In the US, the department of justice is the department of justice. It is an institution and the presidents control over it is limited even though the president is responsible for appointing the attorney general. We should keep working towards making our own justice ministry stronger and devoid of political influence instead of separating the two offices and creating unnecessary confusion in the way.

A bill can become law whether the president refuses to sign it or not.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by jegz25(m): 10:23am On Dec 07, 2016
Icecomrade:
Good move.

After the passage of this Bill
Initiate another bill that would strip EFCC the power to prosecute.
Limit them to investigation.
#SayNoToPoliticalProsecutions
corruption supporter sighted
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by adisaigbo1(m): 10:55am On Dec 07, 2016
evansjeff:
More duplication of offices, confusion, supremacy battle, why not make the Chief Justice the Attorney General if you so want to limit the powers of the executive.
Chief Justice is on the bench to adjudicate on issues brought before him, So how can he be on the bench and at the same time advocate in the same court?OLODO

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by YaksonFCA(m): 11:25am On Dec 07, 2016
Great move guys.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by evansjeff(m): 11:42am On Dec 07, 2016
adisaigbo1:

Chief Justice is on the bench to adjudicate on issues brought before him, So how can he be on the bench and at the same time advocate in the same court?OLODO
cant you behave like an adult for once? can you make a point without insults?

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by einsteinn(m): 11:47am On Dec 07, 2016
evansjeff:
More duplication of offices, confusion, supremacy battle, why not make the Chief Justice the Attorney General if you so want to limit the powers of the executive.
best response so far...

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Grundig: 12:10pm On Dec 07, 2016
Office of tbe attorney general of tbe federation should be created but the duties of the Minister for justice should be assigned to the CJN.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by adanny01(m): 12:32pm On Dec 07, 2016
I agree with this one
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Nobody: 1:25pm On Dec 07, 2016
herzern1:
Welcome Development.

We need drastic steps from our lawmakers if truly they are after the qrowth of this Nation.

Make severe laws that will discouraqe people from lootinq.Look at China,a political office holder was killed last two months when he was found quilty of corrupt practices.

We need severe laws.



It's never perfect tho. Xi's ppl aren't being touched. And the disciplinary directorate is rather unscrupulous. Just saying .... Though ofc in Nigeriq change is needed. I just hope it's less reliant on personalistic ties and more institutionalized.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 07, 2016
herzern1:
Welcome Development.

We need drastic steps from our lawmakers if truly they are after the qrowth of this Nation.

Make severe laws that will discouraqe people from lootinq.Look at China,a political office holder was killed last two months when he was found quilty of corrupt practices.

We need severe laws.



It's never perfect tho. Xi's ppl aren't being touched. And the disciplinary directorate is rather unscrupulous. Just saying .... Though ofc in Nigeria change is needed. I just hope it's less reliant on personalistic ties and more institutionalized.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Okayim: 1:43pm On Dec 07, 2016
blackfase:

They can override presidential assent with 2/3rds majority vote....



Does that mean that with or without presidential assent, 2/3 majority vote can make Nigeria Peace Corps legal na this one concern me ooo
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by adisaigbo1(m): 2:13pm On Dec 07, 2016
evansjeff:
cant you behave like an adult for once? can you make a point without insults?
I'm sorry, my bad.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Newmanluckyman(m): 3:49pm On Dec 07, 2016
deantimes:


http://www.socialtimesng.com/2016/12/bill-to-separate-agf-from-justice-minister-passes-second-reading/
... Very good development. In my own opinion, I believe that this present national assembly notwithstanding her shortcomings, are very ambitious, they are the real change agents and they have taken some key bold steps that their predecessors never did.
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by TimeMod1: 4:04pm On Dec 07, 2016
freeze001:


[s]The NASS has power to override the President. The NASS which represents the people cannot be completely knuckled down by a single individual in the executive [/s].
Supreme Court loading...
brutal truth!
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Godprotectigbo2(f): 4:09pm On Dec 07, 2016
TimeMod1:
Supreme Court loading...
brutal truth!

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Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Icecomrade: 5:14pm On Dec 07, 2016
seunmsg:



We can as well strip ICPC, Police, NDLEA, Custom, Naptip etc of their power to prosecute. Since it's so cool to protect our thieving elites from prosecution, we must take it further by preventing all security agencies from prosecuting poor Nigerians indiscriminately. Let all of them investigate and not prosecute.



Small brain sighted
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by prince13: 5:17pm On Dec 07, 2016
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by blackfase(m): 10:24pm On Dec 07, 2016
Yes, on any bill they feel is worth pushing through, they can override Presidential assent with their 2/ 3rds.



Okayim:


Does that mean that with or without presidential assent, 2/3 majority vote can make Nigeria Peace Corps legal na this one concern me ooo
Re: Bill To Separate AGF From Justice minister Passes Second Reading by Justiceleague1: 6:56pm On Dec 08, 2016
Op,of what use and benefit is that proposed separation to the average naija man struggling to survive in this harsh era of chanji?

TimeMod1:
Supreme Court loading...
brutal truth!

for u and ur T'Ms final judgement,huh?
Kiss am por za turutu..grin
beg am por zhe burutal gaskiya grin
heavenly turutu. grin

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