dmcdad:

So you mean Argentina Messi is a flop right? Bykebyke...

The last time I checked, Argentina Messi had been let down several times by his teammates. Same cannot and can never be said of Griezmann.

Tell me how many world class players play in Atletico?

Griezmann has so many times been the star player for his average Atletico and world class France.

He was even the best player in Euro 2016 for God's sake.



Griezmann's team mates have let him down in countless situations. After almost singlehandedly knocking out Barcelona and Bayern,
is it his fault that that Atletico goalkeeper could not even make a dive in all the penalties played against real Madrid?

Is it his fault that Ramos equalized with a header 13 seconds to go in UCL final 2 years ago?

Or when he played a key pass to Giroud, and he hit the Woodwork, maybe it was Griezmann's fault.

Or perhaps, he should have played in defence to prevent Eder from shooting that winning goal?





And you are saying he was not let down by his teammates

Or do you think if he had played for Barcelona, he won't win all the trophies Vermaelen won while contributing more than Vermaelen did?

UCl

Barca
Madrid
Atletico and
Sevilla

UEL

Bilbao
Villarreal and
Celta Vigo

All Spanish teams have qualified for the next round.. I repeat ALLLLLLL!!!!!!

TRendlona:


How did Messi lead Argentina to 3 straight finals?

By putting in Master classes when he had Donkey Do Maria and Coon Aguero with him.

And Currently He is also leading them to Russia.


There are levels to this shït.

weedtaker:
abeg i no fit shout, i no get strength for back nd forth, na only "up barka" fans for NL think say Greizman de overrated, M not surprised though, they re never the brightest.

You can as well be less harsh and civil with words when addressing an issue that has diverse opinions. At least you have some Barca fans praising same Greizman, so why pretending as if everyone has condemned him?

At every point Griezmann is a better player than hidden Hazard

Debroslink:


Tell me how many world class players play in Atletico?

Griezmann has so many times been the star player for his average Atletico and world class France.

He was even the best player in Euro 2016 for God's sake.

Juanfran,Gabi,Koke,Godin,Saul Niguez.

Same Atletico that has had Diego Forlan,Fernando Torres,Coon Aguero,Costa,Radamel Falcao.

For a team that has had this many success with Forwards means that when you are their focal point of attack,you will flourish as long as you have the quality.

Griezmann could leave Atletico today and He will not be missed but instead be replaced with ease

Griezmann's team mates have let him down in countless situations. After almost singlehandedly knocking out Barcelona and Bayern,
is it his fault that that Atletico goalkeeper could not even make a dive in all the penalties played against real Madrid?

Is it his fault that Ramos equalized with a header 13 seconds to go in UCL final 2 years ago?

Or when he played a key pass to Giroud, and he hit the Woodwork, maybe it was Griezmann's fault.

Or perhaps, he should have played in defence to prevent Eder from shooting that winning goal?





And you are saying he was not let down by his teammates

Or do you think if he had played for Barcelona, he won't win all the trophies Vermaelen won while contributing more than Vermaelen did?

Griezmann did not singlehandedly do shït against Barca,that 2nd Leg against Barca was more of a Collective effort than a Griezmann masterclass.
The first goal was a free header from a beautiful Saul assist,second was a penalty.
Their defence won them that game..Not Griezmann.

Griezmann is a choker in Big games and that is why Atletico Madrid are currently in 4th place.

This season.
Griezmann hasn't performed at the Anoeta,Sanchez Pizjuan,Real Madrid and even the matches against Bayern this season.

Kevin Gameiro and Carrasco are the ones carrying the team,with Griezmann fading as He is not the main man in their attack anymore,Hasn't scored in their last 7matches.

Griezmann is overrated and arrogant and isn't top10 in the world.

10..Byke

Top 20.

Note Before:This is not me saying Griezmann is not a good player,I rate him as a really good player.But Man U fans deh gas am up to heights weh en never reach because en deh flirt with them.

sebod:

You can as well be less harsh and civil with words when addressing an issue that has diverse opinions. At least you have some Barca fans praising same Greizman, so why pretending as if everyone has condemned him?

sorry bro, make i go edit de post.

TRendlona:


How did Messi lead Argentina to 3 straight finals?

Atleti made the final and won the league the season before Anthonie arrived, if he leaves tomorrow they would still be calpable of making the CL Final, Atleast they were winning trophies before he arrived....

Debroslink:


Tell me how many world class players play in Atletico?

Griezmann has so many times been the star player for his average Atletico and world class France.

He was even the best player in Euro 2016 for God's sake.



Griezmann's team mates have let him down in countless situations. After almost singlehandedly knocking out Barcelona and Bayern,
is it his fault that that Atletico goalkeeper could not even make a dive in all the penalties played against real Madrid?

is it his fault that Ramos equalized with a header 13 seconds to go in UCL final 2 years ago?

Or when he played a key pass to Giroud, and he hit the Woodwork, maybe it was Griezmann's fault.

Or perhaps, he should have played in defence to prevent Eder from shooting that winning goal?





And you are saying he was not let down by his teammates

Or do you think if he had played for Barcelona, he won't win all the trophies Vermaelen won while contributing more than Vermaelen did?

To the first part in bold yes Oblak was very lazy in the shoot out but then Griezman was the big let down losing a penalty he should have scored , you wrote that Griezman helped Athletico defeat bayern but you forget that Oblak also did his part in that semis by keeping out Mueller 's penalty so we can say his performance in that final can be forgiven.

For the 2nd part Griezman wasn't in Athletico when they lost the first final if am not mistaken Costa was their striker then and i think jackson martinez. So bro you might want to redress your defence for Griezman.

I so disagree with Debroslink's post
First stop making Atleti look shitty They were Laliga champions and had just finished runners up in the CL when he joined them.

He is a core player but saying he is carrying an 'average' Atleti is ridiculous. Atleti would do very well with or without him!. Besides, its well known that Atleti's strongest point is in their defence.



Funny how you claim he was let down several times by his players, he wasnt there in the Lisbon final, And if I remember correctly he lost a Penalty during the Milan final. Perherps if he had scored the score board in Milan that fateful night would have read 2-1 after 90 minutes.

yeezyquan:
d guy should be mentioned alongside dem countinho ,hazard,morata

Hazard fanboys won't like this...

bykebyke:

Juanfran,Gabi,Koke,Godin,Saul Niguez.

Same Atletico that has had Diego Forlan,Fernando Torres,Coon Aguero,Costa,Radamel Falcao.

For a team that has had this many success with Forwards means that when you are their focal point of attack,you will flourish as long as you have the quality.

Griezmann could leave Atletico today and He will not be missed but instead be replaced with ease


Griezmann did not singlehandedly do shït against Barca,that 2nd Leg against Barca was more of a Collective effort than a Griezmann masterclass.
The first goal was a free header from a beautiful Saul assist,second was a penalty.
Their defence won them that game..Not Griezmann.

Griezmann is a choker in Big games and that is why Atletico Madrid are currently in 4th place.

This season.
Griezmann hasn't performed at the Anoeta,Sanchez Pizjuan,Real Madrid and even the matches against Bayern this season.

Kevin Gameiro and Carrasco are the ones carrying the team,with Griezmann fading as He is not the main man in their attack anymore,Hasn't scored in their last 7matches.

Griezmann is overrated and arrogant and isn't top10 in the world.

10..Byke

Top 20.

Note Before:This is not me saying Griezmann is not a good player,I rate him as a really good player.But Man U fans deh gas am up to heights weh en never reach because en deh flirt with them.

Griezmann..Fraud.

bykebyke:


Griezmann..Fraud.

You stay online to type stuffs . How I wish barca knows about your activities here.

jonsnow92:
Oh i never knew there was a caveat that implied Last season alone
Then If we are arguing based on Last season then Griezman was far ahead of Hazard
But my question to you is this
Is Griezman a better player than Hazard

Of cos there is a caveat or whatever you call it, awards are done annually based on performance amidst other factors, Messi may be better than cr7 this year, next year, Cr7 might be better.

Generally, I'll pick Hazard over Griezmann if I have to chose one.

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raumdeuter:
At every point Griezmann is a better player than hidden Hazard

Arindin, no go enter market one day cause of Hazard, is Griezmann overrated, does he deserve Fifa best 3,na wetin dem ask u be dt....stop comparing Hazard with every attackers available.


What kinda human are you.?

bykebyke:

Juanfran,Gabi,Koke,Godin,Saul Niguez.

Same Atletico that has had Diego Forlan,Fernando Torres,Coon Aguero,Costa,Radamel Falcao.


For a team that has had this many success with Forwards means that when you are their focal point of attack,you will flourish as long as you have the quality.

Griezmann could leave Atletico today and He will not be missed but instead be replaced with ease


Griezmann did not singlehandedly do shït against Barca,that 2nd Leg against Barca was more of a Collective effort than a Griezmann masterclass.
The first goal was a free header from a beautiful Saul assist,second was a penalty.
Their defence won them that game..Not Griezmann.

Griezmann is a choker in Big games and that is why Atletico Madrid are currently in 4th place.

This season.
Griezmann hasn't performed at the Anoeta,Sanchez Pizjuan,Real Madrid and even the matches against Bayern this season.

Kevin Gameiro and Carrasco are the ones carrying the team,with Griezmann fading as He is not the main man in their attack anymore,Hasn't scored in their last 7matches.

Griezmann is overrated and arrogant and isn't top10 in the world.

10..Byke

Top 20.

Note Before:This is not me saying Griezmann is not a good player,I rate him as a really good player.But Man U fans deh gas am up to heights weh en never reach because en deh flirt with them.

1. Griezmann is not a number 9 striker like all the names you mentioned above. He's a SS.

2. You said he scored a free header? Well, he was at the right place to curl that header. Scoring 2 goals to knock out Barcelona is an achievement many grade A strikers are not proud of.

3. That you did not score against Bayern or Sevilla this season doesn't mean you are not classy. It may be due to being out of form. Suarez scored a goal against Madrid last week does not mean he has been on form for weeks.

4. Gameiro and Carrasco are doing well, but how many goals have any of them scored more than Griezmann?

5. We are talking about overall performance in 2016, not just limited to this season. If not, then maybe we should question Ronaldo's name too.

6. How can the best player in Euro 2016 not be in ballon d or top 3? Then Zidane 2000, Nedved 2004, Iniesta 2012 etc.

bykebyke:

By putting in Master classes when he had Donkey Do Maria and Coon Aguero with him.

And Currently He is also leading them to Russia.


There are levels to this shït.

Didn't u watch Greizman's masterclass performances this year? (CL and Euro)

jstbeinhonest:


Atleti made the final and won the league the season before Anthonie arrived, if he leaves tomorrow they would still be calpable of making the CL Final, Atleast they were winning trophies before he arrived....

Argentina were world cup and Copa America winners b4 Messi's arrival

Well my main point is Greizman's isn't overrated, he has been spectacular this year.

bykebyke:

I be Alphabetical arrangement freak.

Doesn't matter if Messi is written down down down.I know whose flag I carry.

lol. your tone shows you missed the humour in my post. where's your sense of humour pal?

I think We need to get this Straight
Griezman is on that list because he had a great season with Atletico and France last season..
Played in the two major Finals last season.... Lost a penalty against Madrid and put in a fairly above average performance against Portugal in the Euro Final....He deserves to be there Fine
But that doesn't mean he's a fantastic player..For those saying how many worldclass players do Atletico have...In 2014 Atletico won the League and almost won the champions league with Diego Costa speargeading the attack... That team could beat anybody..That team was way better than this Current Atletico...This current atletico is trying to equate the 2014 atletico..
In as much as Griezmann deserves a mention in the balon d or this year...It still doesn't mean he's a fantatic player

Chelseafan1:


Of cos there is a caveat or whatever you call it, awards are done annually based on performance amidst other factors, Messi may be better than cr7 this year, next year, Cr7 might be better.

Generally, I'll pick Hazard over Griezmann if I have to chose one.

Thats all i need to know...I.e Hazard is better than Griezmann generally yea?
We are on the same page then

yeezyquan:
d guy should be mentioned alongside dem countinho ,hazard,morata

Morata?,Morata is a small boy joor.

TRendlona:


Argentina were world cup and Copa America winners b4 Messi's arrival

Well my main point is Greizman's isn't overrated, he has been spectacular this year.

Haba na ......Argie won the world cup about 20 yrs before Leo joined.......Leo did not play with any of the WC winning team.... Griez joined Atleti the season after they reached the final in Lisbon nd won the league title.

Greiz is a wonderful player, maybe not you, but i feel a lot of people over-rate him, him winning La-liga player of the year was a massive joke.

my 2 cents. on individual levels the best players(for me anyway) in 2016 were: 1.messi 2. suarez 3. bale 4. griezman 5. ronaldo. But like I always say, the ballon dor is an award for the most valuable player, not the best player.

Chelseafan1:


He was clearly better than Hazard last season, Hazard does more work for Chelsea than scoring and assists, Grizzy is about goals, I see him more like a striker.

Una go just make person tire for una. I dey talk about who dey better, you dey talk about last season. Abeg I no get power jare.

TRendlona:



No.. I meant that he's good but unlucky.

But he has flopped whenever it matters most. Is that what is needed from a supposed great player?

bykebyke:
Unlucky for Both Country and Club?
That's not unlucky..That is being shite.

bykebyke:

Juanfran,Gabi,Koke,Godin,Saul Niguez.

Same Atletico that has had Diego Forlan,Fernando Torres,Coon Aguero,Costa,Radamel Falcao.

For a team that has had this many success with Forwards means that when you are their focal point of attack,you will flourish as long as you have the quality.

Griezmann could leave Atletico today and He will not be missed but instead be replaced with ease


Griezmann did not singlehandedly do shït against Barca,that 2nd Leg against Barca was more of a Collective effort than a Griezmann masterclass.
The first goal was a free header from a beautiful Saul assist,second was a penalty.
Their defence won them that game..Not Griezmann.

Griezmann is a choker in Big games and that is why Atletico Madrid are currently in 4th place.

This season.
Griezmann hasn't performed at the Anoeta,Sanchez Pizjuan,Real Madrid and even the matches against Bayern this season.

Kevin Gameiro and Carrasco are the ones carrying the team,with Griezmann fading as He is not the main man in their attack anymore,Hasn't scored in their last 7matches.

Griezmann is overrated and arrogant and isn't top10 in the world.

10..Byke

Top 20.

Note Before:This is not me saying Griezmann is not a good player,I rate him as a really good player.But Man U fans deh gas am up to heights weh en never reach because en deh flirt with them.

Thank you jare.

weedtaker:
sorry bro, make i go edit de post.

Yeye guy...

Debroslink:


1. Griezmann is not a number 9 striker like all the names you mentioned above. He's a SS.

2. You said he scored a free header? Well, he was at the right place to curl that header. Scoring 2 goals to knock out Barcelona is an achievement many grade A strikers are not proud of.

3. That you did not score against Bayern or Sevilla this season doesn't mean you are not classy. It may be due to being out of form. Suarez scored a goal against Madrid last week does not mean he has been on form for weeks.

4. Gameiro and Carrasco are doing well, but how many goals have any of them scored more than Griezmann?

5. We are talking about overall performance in 2016, not just limited to this season. If not, then maybe we should question Ronaldo's name too.

6. How can the best player in Euro 2016 not be in ballon d or top 3? Then Zidane 2000, Nedved 2004, Iniesta 2012 etc.

Let's wait for the Ballon D'or list from France football then..Monday no far.

jstbeinhonest:


Atleti made the final and won the league the season before Anthonie arrived, if he leaves tomorrow they would still be calpable of making the CL Final, Atleast they were winning trophies before he arrived....

Exactly!