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"Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 4:58am On Dec 06, 2016 |
♦Rasulullah (Sallallaahu alaiwasallaam) said, "Stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided Caliphs, beware of Newly invented matters, for every new matter is Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading. ABU DAWOOD (Book ,40, Hadith ,4590) ♦Every Religious Innovation Is A Misguidance And Every Misguidance Goes To Hell-fire. ~(Sahih Muslim) ♦1. Maulud is not in Islamic Shariah, it was later introduced by Shia Fatimid in Egypt. • ♦2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Some said it's in Ramadan, some in Shabaan and Some said its in Rabi ul awal. ♦3. How can a Muslim rejoice and have party when on 12th Rabi al Awal our prophet died? ♦4. Birthday celebration have pagan roots. Celebrating birthdays is not allowed at all. ♦5. This celebration is neither from Sunnah nor Quran. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of Islam. ♦6. Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided Caliphs, beware of Newly invented matters, for every new matter is Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading. ABU DAWOOD (Book ,40, Hadith ,4590) ♦7. Allah says in Surah al Maidah, Ayah 3. "This day I have perfected your religion for you." When Islam is perfect and complete then who gave the authority to these Shia and Sufi people to introduce new things in Islam? • ♦8. Celebarating maulud is imitation of Christians and Jews. Jews celebarate birthday of Uzair, Christians celebarate birthday of Eesa. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You would tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this also. We said: Allah's Messenger, do you mean Jews and Christians (by your words)" those before you"? He said: Who else (than those two religious groups)? SAHIH MUSLIM( Book 34, Hadith 6448) ♦9. Prophet. (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever imitates a people becomes one of them. abi dawud (Book 33, Hadith 4020) ♦10. Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Be different from Mushrikeen. (Sahih Muslim)" • ♦11. Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said "Do not exaggerate in praising me. SAHIH BUKHARI(Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 654" ![]() • May Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) keep guiding us all always to the straight path and purify our Imaan, mend our bad characters and make us stick to the Qur'an and Sunnah. Aameen. #copied 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by HQuadreal: 6:18am On Dec 06, 2016 |
May Allah Guide Us Through The Right Path. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 10:30am On Dec 06, 2016 |
HQuadreal: Ameen akhee! |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 10:46am On Dec 06, 2016 |
Jazakallahu Khiran |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 3:56pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Lol. ..it's that time of the year. I was expecting this muhahahahagaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tola9ja ![]() Well, EVERY BIDA IS HELL RIGHT? InterNational Quran competition Only started in 1961 in capital city of Malaysia. This was long after the prophet (saw) had gone. This practice is all over Muslim world. By definition of bidah being thrown around daily, this Quran competition is bidah as well. Agreed? |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 4:46pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
And I dont even want to get involved in unnecessary argument over this. It is has been treated over and over. People who go against Mawlud are simply using certain criteria to discredit it. Like saying "celebrating death of the prophet". Nauzubillah. This is wrong. That's all I'm going to address. There is no dispute on the month he was born and the month he passed. Dispute was the 'day' he was born. Similarly his death, the 'day' was disputed but not the month. So to say he was also born in Ramadan or Shaban was simply a way to distort things and discourage people. Leave people alone if you don't want Mawlud. They did not tell you it's universal acceptable sunnah. And is not about "happy birthday to you muhammad. ......happy birthday to you". That's rubbish!
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Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 4:38am On Dec 09, 2016 |
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Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 5:45am On Dec 09, 2016 |
RABIUSHILE04: You even stooped low to post that ^ in a thread in the front. You should at least post it here. Well, my post there is obviously dawah. I have done dawah to the lady by my post below. ou.rema: Empiree: Those who did not hear about the prophet (salaAllahu alaiy wasalaam) or have wrong info about him would know him further by grace of this Mawlud.. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 7:26am On Dec 09, 2016 |
Useless points. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 7:28am On Dec 09, 2016 |
It is a shame that still in 2016 you debate on Maulid. Brother, we have more haram, bidah things we do in Islam, why focus on them. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 8:22am On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: Brother, I don't get your point. Bidah is bidah and things that are prohibited are prohibited. Just because people do them doesn't make it right. It is an obligation on us to enjoin good and forbid what is wrong. Just like this brother is doing. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 8:25am On Dec 09, 2016 |
@ RABIUSHILE04 Just to add that mawlid has now become Eid/ festival that is celebrated yearly. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 8:55am On Dec 09, 2016 |
snapscore: >There is no single evidence to say that rasulullaah was born on 12th of Rabiul Awwal ever!!!!! He only said I was born on a Monday, and the funny thing is, he died on 12th of Rabiul Awwal, I dare MAULUDIANs to bring a sahih proof. >These people always want to imitate the non-muslims in everything, the non-muslims who celebrate this pagan festival, know that from records that Jesus wasn't born on the 25th, and rasulullaah always tries his best to do the opposite of what they do, except if it is in line with the kitab. >One thing we should think of is, the blessed sahabas loved rasulullaah more than them selves, yet they never did the stupid maulud that started like 3 centuries ago, by the Shee'ah, and magnified by the SUFIs. >It is funny o, this person they're celebrating never celebrated his birthday, he fasted bcuz it even coincides with the day he was born(on Mondays and Thursdays), like Isah bn Maryam, when he was alive, very few ppl followed him, he never celebrated his birthday, there was no account that he was born on the 25th of December, it is generation of DRUNKS, filthy, worthless ppl that started this pagan festival. >Anoda issue is, if these mauludians stil doing 'agidi' dat he was born on 12th of Rabiul Awwal, whr is the evidence. Even our fathers, and grandparents can't categorically tell you that, I was born on so so date..na just to say, 'ahh dem born me wen somtyn sometyn apund, at the era of somtyn somtyn, talkless of ppl born over 14 centuries ago, such IGNORANCE. >The blessed sahabas, tabe'een, tabe'een tabe'een and those who followed never heard of this word, 'Maulud nabiyy'...even sef, dem Imam Malik, Imam Ahmad and other imams never heard of it, that's y you can't see fatawas on this issue by them. Our generation that has very little Iman is now claiming to LOVE the prophet by celebrating his birthday, just bcuz non-muslims do theirs, such STUPIDITY is stupid. >If you claim to love rasulullaah, obey him, what he tells u 2 do, do it, whatever he prohibits, leave it, it is better for you, make salawats on him(for ur own good), gv much sadaqat like he commanded us to(for ur own good), been dutiful to parents(for ur own good), be good to neighbours either a muslim or a non-muslim(for ur own good), and so many. >How can you claim to love him by celebrating him once a year, so oda 360 somtyn days, you hate him shey?! E ma go oooo.. >We go dey hear," awon oni sunnah yi gan won feran annabi/All these sunnah ppl don't love the prophet". We love the prophet that's y we don't celebrate what he didn't celebrate. >In a nutshell, From Suratul Maidah ".....this day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion" 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 12:34pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
You are making Haram what Allah nor the Prophet SAW
made Haram.
Please Quote anywhere from the Quraan or Hadith that
state, MAULID IS HARAM. If you can quote anywhere,
Wallahi I will not celebrate it again. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: Rather, you should bring evidences where MAULID is permissible. The fatwa you copy and pasted on the other thread, I will be replying to that in sha Allah. The OP provided clear evidences that state that it is not permissible. MAULID was not known during the time of the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him), his sahabas or the righteous predecessors. The prophet himself mentioned that these are the best generation when he ( peace and blessing be upon him) mentioned: “The best people are those of my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then, there will come people whose witness will precede their oaths and whose oaths will precede their witness.” Sahih Bukhari 6065, Sahih Muslim 2533 In addition to that, birthdays have pagan origin and are prohibited in general. Lastly, celebrations that are done yearly are considered EID in Islam. We have only two eids- Eid-al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 1:07pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
snapscore: Maulid is not mentioned in the Hadith. In fact, saying "MAULID IS BIDAH", is the greatest Bid'a. You are making haram what Allah had not not made haram. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: Listen brother, I need you to be very open minded. I can see where you got the information about bidah being permissible from the info you posted on the other thread. It is very important for someone to get information from the right sources. Everything the OP stated is very clear except you chose to ignore it. Provide a saheeh hadith that tells us to celebrate the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) like the Christians celebrate Jesus. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 1:15pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
snapscore: Oga, Provide any evidence from Quran & Hadith saying MAULID IS HARAM. This is all am asking. No English Pls. هاتو برهانكم |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 1:16pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: I already did. I will respond to your other post soon in sha Allah. You are claiming that it is permissible. You will need to provide evidence for that. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 1:19pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
snapscore: Where did you did that ![]() Qoute it and bold the phrase MAULID IS HARAAM. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: Maybe when I respond to your other post it would make sense. In the meantime, provide the evidence for @bolded. I am not sure you if you are sincerely looking for information snapscore: |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by usmanktg2(m): 1:49pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
snapscore: Am I having problems with my eyes, Please Qoute it and bold the phrase MAULID IS HARAAM. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 1:50pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: Right after you provide @ bolded |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 1:56pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
usmanktg2: I have responded to you in the other thread. Isn't it funny how you are here claiming something that Allah and his messenger didn't claim? Yet you have absolutely no evidences to back it up. The OP provided enough evidences. It's up to you to accept it or not. I won't waste my time on this anymore. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 12:05am On Dec 10, 2016 |
Still dont know why this is issue. It is eternal argument. people saying Mawlud is bida, some of them you see them at nght club the very same day of mawlud and yet, mawlud is bida. Alright. Some keep saying it is imitation of kufar, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Those who celebrate Mawlud proved it from Quran and Sunnah. The problem is, today, those who against it simple do so bcuz their was no apparent celebration by the prophet(SAW) himself. That's, no tent and gathering as it is done today. What they dont understand is mawlud can also be celebrated individually in seclusion by sending salwat on him, which is of course something we do every day as well. Today, some Nigerians who are pro mawlud even celebrate it on non-mawlud day to show that it is not restricted to the day of mawlud as we know it. So now, if celebrating Mawlud, that's birth anniversary of the nabi(saw) is bida or imitation of kufar, saudi celebrate their kings or national day is what?. Isnt that imitation of kufar as well?. Listen, a man or woman who turns 40 and not recognize that day is ungrateful. Anyways, as always, it is very simple. If someone is not invited where Mawlud is celebrated and he (or she) shows up and shouting bidah bida bida, they have the right to ship you out of the arena faster than than federal express bcuz such person constitute agent of fitna. All i can say is mawlud program should be properly coordinated. That's all. Quran competition was only established in the 60s in Malaysia but was not done by the nabi(saw). Yet, all Muslims are proud to participate in it. This is bida as well by it definition as understood by anti-mawlud. Abeg, let's hear word. leave the people alone. No one says it is obligatory on anyone. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 6:53pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
RABIUSHILE04:Since you COPIED it, it means you did not really take your time to EXAMINE. Who are those "historians that differed on this blessed day nabi(p) was born?. Here are some stuff to go through. I think friendchoice also wants proof of his DOB. 1. Ibn-e-Ishaq (85-151 H): Messenger of Allah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born on 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. [Ibn Jawzi in al-Wafa, Page 87] 2. Allama Ibn Hisham (213 H): Messenger of Allah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. [Ibn Hisham in As-Sirat-un-Nabawiya, Vol. 1, Page 158] 3. Imam Ibn Jarir Tabari (224-310 H): Messenger of Allah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. [Tarikh al-Umam wa al-Muluk, Vol. 2, Page 125] 4. Allama Abu al-Hasan Ali bin Muhammad Al-Mawardi (370-480 H): Messenger of Allah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born 50 days after the event of Ashab-ul-Feel and after the death of His father on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal. [Ailam-un-Nabuwwa, Page 192] 5. Imam Al-Hafiz Abu-ul-Fatah Al-Undalasi (671-734 H): Our leader and our Prophet Muhammad (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam), the Messenger of Allah, was born on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. [Aayun al-Asr, Vol. 1, Page 33] 6. Allama Ibn Khaldun (732-808 H): Messenger of Allah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born on 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. It was the 40th year of Emperor Kasra Noshairwan. [Ibn Khaldun in At-Tarikh Vol. 2, Page 394] 7. Muhammad As-Sadiq Ibrahim Arjoon: From various turaq (chains) it has been established as true that the Prophet (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel in the reign of Kisra Noshayrwan. [Muhammad Rasoolullah, Vol. 1, Page 102] 8. Shaykh Abdul-Haq Muhadath Dehlvi (950-1052 H): Know it well, that over-whelming majority of the experts of sayar and tarikh (i.e. biographers and historians) hold the opinion that the Beloved (i.e. the Prophet SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was born in 'Aam al-Feel … It is well known that the month was of Rabi' al-Awwal and its date was 12. Various scholars have shown their agreement with this (date). [Madarij-un-Nabuwwah, Vol. 2, Page 14] 9. Imam Qustallani (Alaihir RaHma) said: Rasoolullah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Sallam) was born on 12th Rabi ul Awwal and People of Makkah follow it, on this same day they visit (your place of birth).. It is famous that you were born on 12th Rabi ul Awwal, the day was of Monday, Ibn Ishaq and others have narrated this too. [Al Muwahib al Laduniya, Vol. 1, Page 88] |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 7:19pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
Now we will prove from scholars whom even Salafis consider the top most scholar in Tafsir and Tarikh and they not only say 12th is the mainstream opinion but also rely with exact hadith for it: 10. Ibn Kathir writes in his Seerat un-Nabi: ورواه ابن أبى شيبة في مصنفه عن عفان ، عن سعيد بن ميناء ، عن جابر وابن عباس أنهما قالا : ولد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم عام الفيل يوم الاثنين الثانى عشر من شهر ربيع الاول Ibn Abi Shaybah in his Musannaf narrates from Affan, Sa’id, Jabir and Ibn Abbas (Ridwanullahi Ta'ala Alaihim Ajma'een) who said: Rasoolullah (SallAllaho Alaihi wa Sallam) was born in the year of elephant on Monday, the 12th Rabi al-Awwal [Seerat un-Nabi, Volume 1, Page No. 199] Then he said: وهذا هو المشهور عند الجمهور والله أعلم This is what is famous amongst Majority and Allah knows the best 11. Nawab Muhammad Sadiq Hasan Khan Bohapali: The birth (of the Prophet SallAllaho Alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) was happened in Mecca at the time of Fajar on Monday 12 Rabi' al-Awwal in 'Aam al-Feel. Majority of scholars holds this opinion. Ibn-e-Jawzi has narrated a consensus (of scholars) on it. [Ash-Shumamat al-Anbariya fi Mawlid Khair al-Bariyyah, Page 7] You can see that the historians/scholars from the first/second century of Hijri, as well as the scholars of later times, had been authenticating it. The list also includes the well known leader of Salafis, i.e. Nawab Sadiq Hasan Bohapalvi. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 8:22pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
[s] Empiree:[/s] Look at you. Proof of what do I want? Am not after date. Which ever date it doesn't concern me. What concern me is prophet words not your innovations. What concern me is to fast tomorrow Monday and Monday / Thursday of every week as the prophet does. Peace Be Upon Him. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 8:33pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
FriendChoice:Actually, i posted this here but not necessarily for you. It was Mr Rabiu who disputed his(p) DOB. You however, your question was NOT clear at outstart. Now that you said date doesnt concern you, i let that fly. Your concern seems to be hadith of his talking about Monday. This is a complete different thing even though he was born on Monday. Muslims who are able to fast every Monday and Thursday do so. If you do fast on Monday every week, you are actually commemorating his Milad but you know not. The reason why your question is not related with Milad is, was the prophet(p) born on Thursday as well?. This goes to show you your question is irrelevant. Aside that, 12th of Rabiu Awwal will ALWAYS falls on different days every yr just like any other human beings like you and I. The DATE is the ESSENCE. Fast of Monday and Thursday are recommendations NOT obligation. And I am sure even if Milad falls on Monday or any other day, those who fast would fast. How can you tell that. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 9:03pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
Empiree: I did not ask any question. You should understand that. The prophet past on Monday being the day he was born. No place, No sahaba, No Hadith, No scholar has ever pointed a single Hadith that prophet fast on 12 of rabi'ul awwal. He only simple fast on Monday of every week regardless of the date. Concerning Thursday its because he want fast 2 be among his deeds that will be compiled in that week. Am not asking you any question. And am not buying your Maulud innovation. So don't disturbe me on this issue. Go and practice your innovation. Okay 2 Likes |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Empiree: 9:11pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
FriendChoice:Kid. Am sure sure you have no problem "Qur'an Competition" organized annually. I am sure you have no problem with "Wolimat Quran". Did the prophet(p) did this?. Did he say anything about this?. Yet, all muslims do this. Until you answer these questions, I wont take you serious. Besides, there are more of these after you answer those. deathstroke once said since the prophet did not do "Quran competition" then, it is bid'a. You agree with him?. |
Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Nobody: 9:19pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
Empiree: Old Man I don't have your time. I don't want you to take me serious. 1 Like |
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