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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:38pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Iheanacho and Man city where off colour. Frankly speaking I wasn't impressed one bit by Iheanacho. He never had a foot hold on the game like Gundogan, David silva and Navas. You keep talking about a penalty call on Iheanacho but the truth is that Iheanacho was never in a goal scoring position when Albrighton made the tackle. Infact, Iheanacho had his back to goal and the ball moving away from him just inside the box when Albrighton took both the ball and the man. Those who didn't watch the game will be deceived into believing Ihenacho had a blinder of a game and was fouled in a goal bound move after reading your post. Perspective please. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
princesuko: Savage. Do you know how Savage hates City with all his heart? Do you know Savage is a Manchester United guy? Na wa. If you are talking of Dunne, I can listen. However, you have eyes. You saw the tackle. It was from behind in the box. Be the judge. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 11:42pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
zicky: If you have been reading what I have been typing, I am not singling out Nacho, But was disagreeing with someone who said he had a good game. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:44pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
goldfish80: The ball was in front of Albrighton. Iheanacho went passed Albrighton with amazing speed (Something someone like you will fail to notice) that tackle was in the box. Beats me how towards goal or not changes tackle in the box. The tackle was from behind. How is that not a penalty, beats me. I am sure that was okay to you. I will listen to a critique who comes here and points out the good side of Iheanacho's game. If not, Yara Yara give me one word for that. Yara Yara: BIAS. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:45pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
princesuko: If you read, I said he had a good game because he made things happen in an unfair situation. I ask again, did you see his move before the pass to Gundogan? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 11:46pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Since we keep coming back in Circles lets agree that it was a 50-50 Call ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 11:48pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: I saw it. Gundogan should have scored but that doesn't mean he had a good game. How would you rate Kolarov then, if Nacho had a goo game? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:49pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: U are asking for alot but i just can't. If man city went on to win that match it would have been an unjust miracle. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:51pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
princesuko: You saw it and asked if Iheanacho did one good thing!! I hope your sunglasses is not medicated. I will not class Kolarov poor because he contributed a lot to our offensive play. We can not tag him poor on that. Defensively, he was awful. Let us down with his poor recovery rate. I will give him a 5.5 rating. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:53pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Iheanacho went past Albrighton? Iheanacho never completed a dribble in that game. He never had a shot all game, he never won any aerial ball because definitely he had no chance in the air against Huth/ Morgan, and certainly the quality of his passing was below average like the other players. The only highlight of Iheanacho's minutes was when he put dropped the ball for Gundogan. The penalty claim you talked about was not a strong one. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 11:53pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
Why was Nacho removed instantly after that Offside One-on-one Miss? If he was having a stormer he would have continued i think. For him to bring Nacho off for Yaya Toure when you need a goal tells you something. Nacho Is a great talent but he had a POOR GAME, no manner of twisting can change that. If he Impressed you it means you are easily impressed. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: I disagree. I do not want Miracles. Just fair officiating. It is wrong to allow a team walk away with repeated fouls. It is wrong to book Fernando when he clearly won the ball. Wrong to allow Albrighton walk away after such blatant foul on Navas. Same player committed such atrocity on Iheanacho and no penalty. Unfair officiating gives one Team an unfair advantage. We have seen lots of fight backs in football. A three goal advantage is not the Holy grail of winning. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:56pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
princesuko: The whistle went long before the shot. What was even impressive was the awareness, mobility and pacy run. Guardiola removed Iheanacho because the referee was not protecting him from the constant bullying. I have said it before. Guardiola put Yaya Toure upfront. That tells you the story. He played Yaya as a striker because of the bullying. Or, are you still wearing your medicated sunglasses? Oya, remove it and read well. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 11:58pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: You Make it seem as if City would have scored the Penalty ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: Choi. Iheanacho did not win an aerial ball. Are you sure it is aerial balls or duels. Iheanacho got some aerial balls. This your statistics site na wa. Leave your statistics site, did you see Iheanacho's pass to Gundogan? Did you see his touches before the pass? Did you see Iheanacho's control of the ball with his chest under a tight situation. I repeatedly said, Iheanacho was bullied. Unless you do not understand what bullying does. It is difficult to win aerial duels under such situations when the referee allows bullying. Someone Like You should know that. As for dribbling, it is difficult for an attacker to complete dribbles in such situations. That is for wingers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:03am On Dec 11, 2016 |
princesuko: I said, give fair calls. The result is another thing but unfair calls give one Team an unfair advantage. Give the penalty. The scoring depends on the player. Or, are you saying penalties are impossible to score? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:17am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Leave bias and sentiments aside, raise your hands, be a gentleman acknowledge Man city where beaten hands down. Leicester didn't employ and dirty tactics. Ranieri's tactics came together nicely. He put Islam and Vardy with an instruction to run/press and strangle Man city defenders. There terrifying pace frightened Jon stones into making childish errors. There was a moment Islam chased Jon stones out of the pitch (not literally) Pep Guardiola's tactics is getting stale and he's being found out just 14 weeks into the premiership. It's obvious he's struggling because he doesn't have the best assembly of players in the league and one of the best players of all time to rely on. Am interested to see how Pep Guardiola improves on his 2nd year, as his legacy as a manager will depend on his time in England. I haven't seen any quantum improvements on Iheanacho's game. The much heralded pass to Guondogan was very basic, which any Premier league forward will make. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:24am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Bad calls are part of the game, the Jose had hinted that his rivals will also face bad ref decisions. It happens to everybody, 3-0 is game over. That's why when liverpool came back they called it a miracle. If they had stole one before halftime then maybe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:28am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: Raise my hands for what? I have no problem in losing. Not one bit. I believe football is a long-term thing, not one game. I have a problem with unfair officiating. Michael Oliver was very poor today. It is shocking people have a problem with me pointing out how terrible he was. As for Iheanacho, compared to what he was up against, he put up a good performance. Something people are trying to deny. Ranieri got his tactics right. Our defenders were the weakest point. That does not change the fact that Michael Oliver was clearly biased. Shocking you can not see quantum improvement. Watch the game. Watch the player and forget statistics sites telling you the story. If not, you will miss out on brilliance like how Iheanacho dropped deep and helped build-up plays. Those sites can not tell you that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:30am On Dec 11, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: It has happened many times. In football, it I jot over until the whistle is gone. It is as simple as that. Whether you name it what you want. That does not give a referee license to make poor call repeatedly. It even gets more irritating when you consider the same level of repeated poor officiating in the Chelsea game. That is back to back repeated poor calls. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:38am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I wonder what statistics site you're talking about. I never cited any statistics or gave an percentage,neither did I post any data from a dashboard. I can't recall any bad decision Michael Oliver made. The supposed handball would have been harsh to give because the Man city player smashed the ball from 3yards into the hands of Fuchs. The tackle on Iheanacho was not as bad as you make it out. That particular incident wasn't even deliberated on by the analysts at half time. You're making a storm in a tea cup with your calling out of the referee and in another breath admiting Leicester got their tactics spot on. The scoreline would have been more embarrassing, had Bravo not pulled a stunning save to deny Mahrez in the first half. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:46am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:LOL... I hope you realised I watched the game from start to finish? I think Man city players were shell shocked by the 2 quick goals they conceeded within the first 5 mins . Iheanacho at no time dropped to his half to help the build up play. In my view, Iheanacho had the least touches of all the players on parade today. I may have to check up on that later. What will you gain by deceiving people who didn't watch the game? You're better than this 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:52am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: If anyone is deceiving anyone is you. Who told you that dropping deep is always to your own half. Na wa for you. You make all these reckless talks and end with accusation. Say Iheanacho did not build-up plays from deep and you define how lost you are watching games. I clearly wonder what you were watching. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:57am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: You are absolutely terrible at this. Why argue what you do not understand? If you did not see any poor officiating from Michael Oliver, quit jumping on the thread to argue. I will be honest. You are so lost. Here is a post from ja606 from someone who was in the stadium for the game. Blue_mooning (U12093) posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago I haven't read the comments sorry. One thing that annoyed me how hasn't oliver got out the way in the build up to there 3rd? And was a clear pen on kelechi in the 1st half. If you start like we did have to accept it. Poor tactics and poor finishing aswel. Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901) posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago Dreadful refereeing again, we could have had 3/4 penalties but we were already 2 goals down before the first incident. You must not argue everything. If you do not pick up these things, do not argue it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:05am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Haba... That's a Man city blog comment you copied. What do you expect? Of course most fans will blame the referee when they loose just like you're doing. That's why they are fans. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:11am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: It is not Manchester City blog. It is a football forum frequented by people of different clubs. That is a City thread. I am pointing out that how come foreigners could see a definite penal on the Nigerian golden boy but Nigerians are trying to defend the Corrupt decision not to award Iheanacho a penalty. It was a definite penal. A tackle from behind in the box. Yet you did not see a wrong decision. Haba. Either you do not understand what goes on a football pitch or you are very bias. No two ways about it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:13am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: Please, reread the comments I posted and see if they are heaping the blame for the loss on the referee. Weak defense. Yara Yara, hire this man a charge and bail lawyer. His defense counsel is doing a poor job. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:19am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Just like I suspected, I went to Kelechi iheanacho's dashboard in today's game and the stats agrees with all I've said. Let me break it down for you bit by bit ; Kelechi completed 7 passes and posted 4 failed passes, as represented by the blue and red arrows. He created 2 chances, as represented by the light blue arrows Completed 1 take on represented by a tiny star lost 4 ariel batlles, winning none, represented by 4 orange triangles And commited 1 foul, represented by a black triangle. That's about it from Iheanacho's game today. I don't know what improvements you witnessed. He had a very average game if am to put it mildy 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:22am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:One of the comment you posted says Man city should have had 4 or 5 penalties. That should tell you how rational those fellas you're quoting are. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:30am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: It shows how you are also wearing medicated sunglasses and not seeing even one. This season, there were rules passed against tugging players down in the box. It happened on numerous occasions. The referee allowed it go all through the game. Yes, we lost but that should not make you lie blatantly that you did not see one wrong decision. What of Fernando's yellow card when he clearly got the ball? The commentator said I understand why he is furious. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:34am On Dec 11, 2016 |
goldfish80: I knew you were looking at stats to talk because your write up shows you clearly did not understand what you were watching. Does that list show the brilliant movement of Nacho? Did your list tell you the he had to run to make those passes? What about his runs from midfield? You said no aerial ball. From your list now, you are saying aerial battle. If you watched the game, you will see Iheanacho win balls in the air. That is why I said, stick to your stats and allow those who watch the game discuss about it. That list can not explain the quickness of Iheanacho to get to the ball before Albrighton. Your list will not explain the bullying Nacho coped with to post those stats. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:46am On Dec 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I made an argument and used stats to back it up. Atleast those who didn't see the game will get a picture of what happened. I suspected Ihenacho had very few touches all game and clearly the stats in his dashboard highlights that. Anyone who watched the game will agree that was the case. Yes! Actually those arrows shows the pin point location of all his passes on the grass. I said Iheanacho didn't win any ariel ball all game, I check the stats and it showed I was spot on! I have put disclaimers time and time again that I don't check statistics before coming to conclusions. I pull up stats to prove my assertions because it's often my words against your words. Hence, I use stats and numbers and explain my points. How in the world will you think kelechi will ever win an ariel battle against Huth. Even if you didn't watch the game and someone told you that, will you belive him? |
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