coded01:


I understand!

On the other hand, does it mean those coaches he mentioned are superior than Pep... should he fail to win EPL in his first season?

afrodoc2:
Ahh o ma se o! Just look at Guardiola's life for outside.
When I told Dayo that great players will usually trump great coaches he was arguing. Pep is proving that he is not as great as advertised and he is not adaptable and that only a certain type of player can execute his tactics. Can we say he is overrated?

Ibime:
Mourinho has been in battles with inferior teams and won the lot. When that fraud can win UCL with anyone not named Messi or Xavi, get back to us.

Give Fraudiola Messi, Xavi and co and they will start hailing him a genius. Give him Fernandinho and Aguero, and you will see Pochettino flogging him.

Pep is a genius like Scolari was a genius in 2002. They hail him when Ronaldo and Rivaldo are winning titles for him. . . . but when it's Luiz Gustavo and Fred, they will spell his name with 7 goals.

raumdeuter:


The coach of your team who is currently 9 points behind the overrated Guardiola what do we call him doc?

raumdeuter:


One of the symptoms of obesity is selective memory
You forgot to tell us that Mourinho has also been fired by the bigger clubs he has coached. Sacked at madrid, sacked at Chelsea and now in Man Utd after blowing money buying the most expensive player he is now tied on points with Watford and dragging places with West Brom teams on 1/10th of his budget

Guardiola caught Mourinho their aggregates stands at 9-4 currently. Mourinho is now having to write affidavits to get jobs only God knows when he will see the CL again

Ibime:
What Mourinho did from 2002 to 2015 before he lost it, Pep hasn't started.

When he wins UCL with anyone not named Messi or Xavi, alert us.

Everything Pep has done so far in his career is what likes of failures like Rijkaard, Luiz Enrique and Jordi Roura can do.

Alert us when he actually achieves anything remarkable. Until then we will sit back and enjoy likes of Pochettino bully him all season.

afrodoc2:
Tonight is about Pep, do we all agree he is overrated? Tomorrow we can talk about Mourinho

raumdeuter:


Between 2002 and 2015 Mourinho got fired twice.

He took CHelsea spent half a billion and failed to make a CL final immediately after Avram Grant made the final, He took the biggest team in Europe Madrid failed to make the final, immediately Ancelotti came and made the final

he came to Chelsea again almost relegated them and Conte took over and steamrolling the league with the same players

He went to Man Utd again bought the most expensive player ever and is now battling the likes of Watford and West Brom

raumdeuter:


Between 2002 and 2015 Mourinho got fired twice.

He took CHelsea spent half a billion and failed to make a CL final immediately after Avram Grant made the final, He took the biggest team in Europe Madrid failed to make the final, immediately Ancelotti came and made the final

he came to Chelsea again almost relegated them and Conte took over and steamrolling the league with the same players

He went to Man Utd again bought the most expensive player ever and is now battling the likes of Watford and West Brom

Ibime:


Between 2002 and 2015, Mourinho won the UCL Twice and Europa league with severe underdogs.

He cracked and uprooted the best team ever seen in English football, the Arsenal invincibles, and he won Reals only league title in the last 8 years from the hands of Messi and co.

What has Guardiola done out of the ordinary except take the best teams and achieve the expected whilst taking Bayern backward and disgracing their name all over Europe? Guardiola is only now taking the step Mourinho took in 2002, which is to try to win with a normal competitive team. . . .and he is failing woefully.

He is yet to beat a better team than his, 8.5 years into his career, something his mates do several times a season. FRAUDIOLA!

diggz:


Which players did mou buy with half a billion oga day0?

raumdeuter:


One of the symptoms of obesity is selective memory
You forgot to tell us that Mourinho has also been fired by the bigger clubs he has coached. Sacked at madrid, sacked at Chelsea and now in Man Utd after blowing money buying the most expensive player he is now tied on points with Watford and dragging places with West Brom teams on 1/10th of his budget

Guardiola caught Mourinho their aggregates stands at 9-4 currently. Mourinho is now having to write affidavits to get jobs only God knows when he will see the CL again

raumdeuter:

Taking a team from nowhere and making them the flagship team of the generation. No one will talk about football of the past 30yrs without talking about Pep's Barcelona

Ibime:
The flagship team of the generation started in 2005, not this snake oil you are trying to sell us like Peo started that generation.

All Pep did was refocus Barcelona after falling into 2 years of decadence in 2008, just like Luis Enrique rejigged Barca in 2014 after 2 years of decadence.

Not to mention Luis Aragones was already dominating International football in 2008 with those Barca midfield before Pep even signed his contract. Did Luis Aragones learn timitaka from Pep who was not even a manager then?

Barcelona was already the best team in Europe in 04/05 and everyteam they came across knew it. The same set were UCL Champions in 2006 and tikitaka was already dominating the world from Barca to Spanish National Team.

All Pep did was ride the wave just like Luis Enrique is riding the wave. He went to Bayern to ride wave that Jupp Heynckes created, only to get disgraced in Europe annually.

He came to City where there is no wave to ride, but with the best players in England and money to spend, he thought it would be a walk in the park. After spending £180m poorly, the fraud is being exposed as the con artist whose incompetence has been covered by great players and one-team leagues all this while.

raumdeuter:


No one talks much about Rijkaards Barcelona. Everyone still talks about Peps Barcelona, SPain adopted his play style and won a world cup and EUro on top of it

raumdeuter:


165M Euro - 2004/05
92M Euro - 2005/06
85M Euro - 2006/07
25M Euro - 2007/08
130M Euro - 2013/14
137M Euro - 2014/15
86M Euro - 2015/16

Total 720M Euros No CL final

diggz:
Is everything OK with you oga?

Ibime:


You must be very stewpid to buy that trash. I expect born yesterday "Up Barka" fans to buy this trash, not you. I see you have been brainwashed into the discipleship of Pep cõcksucking.

Had Fraudiola ever managed a game of competitive football when Luiz Aragones won Euro 2008 with the same style?


Pep just rode the wave of the style and players in place. Peps Barcelona is Rijkaards Barcelona just like Enriques Barcelona is Peps Barcelona.

All that happened was Pep refocused them after 2 years of decadence just like Enrique refocused Barcelona after 2 years laziness of Jourdi Roura and Tata Martino.

Pep did nothing special that a serious manager would not do. Rijkaard was a poor disciplinarian and poor motivator, that's all. That team were already the best team in the World and were European Champions.

Pep has not done anything in football except ride the wave. Now he doesnt have extraterrestrial players for the first time in his career, he is fumbling like Papa Ajasco.

Not to mention he is wasting money on the same monumental scale. The difference here is there is no homegrown quality base of players to save him from his failed transfers. John Stones is the new Chygrinski and Leroy Sane is the new Alex Hleb while Claudio Bravo is taking the transfer comedy to new heights. I wonder when he will sign the new Ibrahimovic.

The only innovation I've heard that Pep brought to football was the 5 second rule to win the ball back in a high press. Barca and Spain were already playing tikitaka in its current format back when Pep had not even dreamed of being a manager. All the other ideas he brought to football are absolute rubbish and liable to get his teams hammered 5-0 everytime he implements those brainfarts (eg going 3 at the back to match Barca front 3 in 2014 UCL semifinal).If not for riding the tikitaka wave and having a once-in-a-generation forward like Messi to win trophies for him, Pep would be a nobody, begging Compostela or Go-Ahead-Eagles for job right now.

afrodoc2:
Ahh o ma se o! Just look at Guardiola's life for outside.
When I told Dayo that great players will usually trump great coaches he was arguing. Pep is proving that he is not as great as advertised and he is not adaptable and that only a certain type of player can execute his tactics. Can we say he is overrated?

raumdeuter:


Yes everything is okay with me, Thanks for asking. Is everything okay with you?

raumdeuter:


The only 2 managers worth talking about in elite terms in the EPL are Mourinho and Guardiola

As at today Mourinho and Pep have 2 CL titles each. Guardiola have the superior head to head, The times they have faced in the same league. Pep has topped his team most of the time
Added to the fact that Mourinho has been fired from his last 2 jobs and currently wandering midtable around Watford and co


So there is nothing suggesting Mourinho is better than Pep

raumdeuter:


Guardiola took a Barcelona who have gone 2 seasons trophyless, finished 18 points behind the league leaders, Sold Deco and Ronaldinho and 18months later has won the sextuple the first and only in football till date with his own brand of football

He ensured that he destroyed Ferguson in 2 CL finals and added Mourinho to his casualties in the CL semi finals

Taking a team from trophylessness and making them the flagship team of the generation. No one will talk about football of the past 30yrs without talking about Pep's Barcelona, who talks about Morinhos Porto or Mourinhos Inter?

Pep type of football is what Roman wanted thats why he fired Mourinho even after winning league titles. Pep underlined why Mourinho is a failure

All young coaches look up to Pep and try to copy his methods, even former Mourinho players like Viera, Makelele and Zidane would rather approach Pep to learn. WHo are those we can call Mourinhos prodigees? the Pulis, ALardyce of this world the failures

raumdeuter:


Only a simple minded foool will say Rijkaard and Peps Barcelona were the same.

1. Pep's Barcelona played a much higher defence line than the Rijkaard barcelona
2. Peps Barcelona dominated possesion significantly more than Rijkaards Barcelona
3. Pep introduced the false 9 into attack while Rijkaard Barcelona always used a regular 9
4. Pep introduced the high intesity offensive press and emphasized ball recovery in 5 seconds something Rijkaard didnt do
5. Pep emphasized keepers playing from the back and ball playing defence to play from the back
6. Pep pushed his full back higher Dani Alves became a winger in a 3-4 pattern while Rijkaard never departed from his 4-3-3 and variation of it
7. The peak of total football aka tiki taka was under Pep as he pushed it to extremes and was most successful with it


These are basic stuff I will expect anyone who watches football to notice and understand but when you are too fat obese and out of shape you begin to mix time frames

Another thing Peps tikitaka emphasized physical fitness and being trim which is why ibime has a problem with Pep's seeming cacomorphobia

Ibime:


You must be very stewpid to buy that trash. I expect born yesterday "Up Barka" fans to buy this trash, not you. I see you have been brainwashed into the discipleship of Pep cõcksucking.

Had Fraudiola ever managed a game of competitive football when Luiz Aragones won Euro 2008 with the same style?


Pep just rode the wave of the style and players in place. Peps Barcelona is Rijkaards Barcelona just like Enriques Barcelona is Peps Barcelona.

All that happened was Pep refocused them after 2 years of decadence just like Enrique refocused Barcelona after 2 years laziness of Jourdi Roura and Tata Martino. wetin spain win before pep became barca manager?

Pep did nothing special that a serious manager would not do. Rijkaard was a poor disciplinarian and poor motivator, that's all. That team were already the best team in the World and were European Champions.

Pep has not done anything in football except ride the wave. Now he doesnt have extraterrestrial players for the first time in his career, he is fumbling like Papa Ajasco.

Not to mention he is wasting money on the same monumental scale. The difference here is there is no homegrown quality base of players to save him from his failed transfers. John Stones is the new Chygrinski and Leroy Sane is the new Alex Hleb while Claudio Bravo is taking the transfer comedy to new heights. I wonder when he will sign the new Ibrahimovic.

The only innovation I've heard that Pep brought to football was the 5 second rule to win the ball back in a high press. Barca and Spain were already playing tikitaka in its current format back when Pep had not even dreamed of being a manager. All the other ideas he brought to football are absolute rubbish and liable to get his teams hammered 5-0 everytime he implements those brainfarts (eg going 3 at the back to match Barca front 3 in 2014 UCL semifinal).If not for riding the tikitaka wave and having a once-in-a-generation forward like Messi to win trophies for him, Pep would be a nobody, begging Compostela or Go-Ahead-Eagles for job right now.

raumdeuter:


Guardiola took a Barcelona who have gone 2 seasons trophyless, finished 18 points behind the league leaders, Sold Deco and Ronaldinho and 18months later has won the sextuple the first and only in football till date with his own brand of football

He ensured that he destroyed Ferguson in 2 CL finals and added Mourinho to his casualties in the CL semi finals

Taking a team from trophylessness and making them the flagship team of the generation. No one will talk about football of the past 30yrs without talking about Pep's Barcelona, who talks about Morinhos Porto or Mourinhos Inter?

Pep type of football is what Roman wanted thats why he fired Mourinho even after winning league titles. Pep underlined why Mourinho is a failure

All young coaches look up to Pep and try to copy his methods, even former Mourinho players like Viera, Makelele and Zidane would rather approach Pep to learn. WHo are those we can call Mourinhos prodigees? the Pulis, ALardyce of this world the failures

SIRcumalot:
see blood everywhere .

make una free pep, na him fans dey crase.

Lana1:
Lmao. So true.
One of dem na that mumu ollah1 dat was trying to rubbish SAF achievements just to score cheap points for Pep and how he'll dominate EPL. The "up barka" fan has since disappeared without a trace

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