Chuknovski:

tell me one name that brings the dead back to life, tell me one name that can heal the sick apart from Jesus, tell me who can kill and make alive, I can see that you are a devil from the pit of hell to confuse people from following the true God,

LARRYDKING:


A lot of verified testimonies happen at the just concluded Shiloh, as a matter of fact, 905 person got heal on the spot while a lot more were adjoin to return for medical check up to rerun tests for those medical verdict pronounced by the doctor to be incurable.

You see, let every man serve his God and keep to his belief. For as many others reading, I want them to know the power of God remains incomprehensible by atheists or anyone else.

LARRYDKING:
Ok. FYI, Shiloh ended today and a lot of us got blessed by the 'Christian god' so I'm not interested in ur research. And I don't owe u any explanation too.

akintom:


I overheard Mr oyedepo, deceiving you folks again, that you can give sacrificially to triumph recession.

How does the manipulative collection of the scarce resources of gullible folks, bring about recovery from recession?

akintom:


The usual charade and abracadabra....

sticlestm:


I dont understand your problem with the 'christian god' as u put it, but one fatal historical blunder u are making is saying Abraham came up with the idea of a 'Christian god'. Excuse me but the word 'Christian' did not surface until some 10 or 11 years after Jesus! That's millenia apart from Abraham!! They didnt meet!!! So how come?¿

sticlestm:

Hundreds of people over historical timeline wrote the books in the Bible and most of them did not meet. If the events and lessons of the Bible were lies, how FANTASTIC THOSE LIES MUST BE!! In my opinion, they must have been well-told, impeccable lies that many generations after could not fault or reason beyond!!

sticlestm:

Again, dont u agree that the Roman Empire must be full of nitwits and nincompoops, bereft of basic, singular and straight-forward understanding that they would not only believe, but also adopt Christianity as a state religion, knowing full well that it was all a lie propagated by a backward, 'religious rebel' known as Jesus, who had also created a cult?¿
If u people dont understand something, is it by force to peddle your ignorance?

sticlestm:

I think u need to go and do more research on these your allegations and stop embarassing yourself and fellow atheists!

LARRYDKING:


U won't hear the testimony of those who sow everything and got enormously in return. U hear what u want to hear. If goitre, cancer, swollen scrotum could disappear in the name of Jesus, what then is recession to God.

As a matter of fact, a lot who received divine healing in the programme would be willing to give their all in all in return for nothing.

akintom:

That's the aim, hoodwinking the gullible.

* Goitre can surgically be taken care of

* Tumor can medically be taken care of

* Infertility can medically be sorted out

* artificial limbs can be given to amputees, and functional ability restored.

Despite the claim of "there's nothing god can't do", he's yet to cure mere malaria, not to talk of growing back an amputated limb.

LARRYDKING:


Very true. What about cancer and HIV/AIDS? I'm sure SS can turn AA with medications too. I must be going too far by mentioning those incurable and terminal diseases. But how do u explain it that the ailments u mentioned disappeared on their own accord without medications, surgery or through traditional means, just by only mentioning the name of Jesus.

Convincing u is not my duty, so far u continue to live in the world, a day would come when u'll have no other option but to look for a miracle, u won't be told before u call on Jesus.

akintom:



SS to AA? ......... that's the evil being perpetrated by religious beliefs.

You know what? The complications of all these fictitious and malicious testimonies are what i scold every now and then in the course of my job.

I particularly don't pity the folks being deceived by this charade and manipulation, they were very arrogant in the first place, to have disregarded medical advice.

All you need to do is get yourself to the surgical ward of any hospital, you will see the folks that have been irreparably damaged by the fictitious and fake miracles you're advertising here.
If i ever need a miracle, i certainly will not be looking up to your skydaddy and pastopreneur oyedepo.

LARRYDKING:


Medical advices have equally sentenced a lot their early grave. Dora Akuyili was sent to her early grave due to wrong diagnosis by foreign expects, the quacks we have here are indifferent. Different hospitals produce multiple medical reports with same symptoms.

Sir, I don't know what u know but from what I've seen u written, u certainly don't know much when it comes to miracles. My mum had migraine headache for 12 years, she had gone everywhere, sought for all medical helps to no avail. Our most revered pastopreneur as u choose to call him have a branch in my area. She didn't actually need to go to Cannanland to get mysteriously delivered. After 10 years and hitherto, she hasn't had the headache anymore.

It is however important that u know the essence of these things. No one says seeking medical attention is wrong, as a matter of fact, Oyedepo sees the doctors himself. The issue is some things are just beyond human comprehension. Even doctors acknowledge to that. The mysterious yet unraveled behind the creation of the universe still exists and still touching life hitherto.

I don't know ur occupation but if u're a doctor, u're still naive in the profession. U need to keep calm and learn more, banking on ur knowledge is utterly dangerous for u.

akintom:


Well, naivety certainly has some other meaning than the one you know.

Whatever Mr oyedepo has told you, i had sat and heard him spin those gimmicks from iyana-ipaja in 1998 - to Canaan land in ota.

Don't sweat it, religious illusions are not cured with anointing oil or mantle.

Those books by atheists, read and taught from by Mr oyedepo himself, has the cure.

Am sure you were among the crowd that cheered oyedepo on, when he maliciously slapped and abused that young girl, he accused of witchcraft?

folks are simply mean and lacking distinction from a jihadist.

LARRYDKING:


Congratulations for knowing all those, it doesn't change anything. Mind you, we don't worship Oyedepo, we worship God.

akintom:


It's obvious you folks don't.

His wife was down with stroke, he flew her out to go through advanced medical rehabilitation, for almost two years.

When she came back, rather than tell you folks the true story, he lied and claimed it was some kind of miraculous act by skydaddy.

I write all these stuff from the vantage position, of having sufficient knowledge and understanding of both worlds of atheism and theism.

If only one person can escape the evil of religion, am satisfied.

Anas09:
PLEASE CHRISTIANS, STOP MAKING THIS PERSON FEEL RELEVANT, HE IS NOT.


IGNORE SATAN WHO IS SPEAKING THROUGH HIM.


SATAN HATES IT WHEN HE IS IGNORED.


SO, IGNORE HIM.

Anas09:
PLEASE CHRISTIANS, STOP MAKING THIS PERSON FEEL RELEVANT, HE IS NOT.


IGNORE SATAN WHO IS SPEAKING THROUGH HIM.


SATAN HATES IT WHEN HE IS IGNORED.


SO, IGNORE HIM.

akintom:

Is no longer the same god that Abraham heard talk to him, that was the father of Jesus?
Is it not the same god, that the folks who were carrying on the rebellious attitude of Jesus, were claiming is their god?
And because they were been fanatical like Jesus, is that not the reason they were called "Christ-like"?
Try to reason outside religious mind, it will help present you as an intelligent mind. Religious beliefs numbs intelligence.
What do you expect from a fictional story book?
Maybe you're not aware that there thousands historians, who documented Judeo-Christian activities.
Have you asked yourself, where the books written by the 7000 prophets that didn't bow to Baal are?
The Roman government selected the distorted and fabricated documents, and gave it as bible, and you are taking that to the bank?
The mythological and legendary books of Greek, Yorubas etc, have better chronology than the fictitious book you called bible.
It's obvious that you neither know nor understand the political/Abrahamic religions history.
The Roman government adopted Christianity as a state religion, for a political purpose.
And Christian religion, as conceptualized by Rome, is a crafty blend of both monotheistic and polytheistic religions.
Religion is a political tool, especially in the primitive nations even till date.
Empty barrel can't but make irritating noise, when struck.

sticlestm:



its easy to call your opponent names when u run out of facts. Its foolhardy to barter words with the likes of you. However, i will not gratify u with an unfounded silence. Since u called me an empty barrel, let me make some noise in form of the following comments.

1. Your claim that Jesus & His followers were 'fanatical & rebellious' comes from where? And against whom were they rebellious?

2. You say the Bible is a 'fictional storybook', certainly places like 'EGYPT', 'RIVER JORDAN', 'ISRAEL' must have been fables, right? What of people like 'PHARAOH', 'HEROD', 'CEASAR AUGUSTUS' etc ? They must have been thought up too! (oh! I forgot u said there was a Roman government). How convenient to conclude this way!

3. You really are hilarious. Seriously? ''Thousands of historians documented Judeo-Christian activities'', yet they ALL WROTE BASED ON FABLES? Their work of FICTION was so perfect that they said about the same things on the same events? Again, how convenient!

4. Seriously now sir, u need a 'thinking retreat'. Which Roman Government 'selected...' the Bible? Is it the one that was persecuting the Christians or the one that worshipped several gods?

Sir, it is better to show wisdom by learning quietly in humility than by voicing folly! Perhaps, nature (or whatever u believe in) can help u in understanding.

FYI, FAITH BEGINS WHERE UR REASONING ENDS. Reason and faith are different but NEVER AGAINST each other.
Enough said.

akintom:


Sorry if you felt offended by my choice of adjectives. They are directed at your thoughts level. Just as you call me out on my reasoning.

Well it's still obvious that you don't have a basic grasp of logic and history comprehensive know.

*fictional works do contain real landmarks and features. That doesn't make such works real.

All mythological and legendary books contain real historical landmarks.

*a comprehensive read of the gospel books, will show you how Jesus and his disciples constituted nuisance to the Jewish and Roman communities.

*are you not aware that the Bible was first and originally compiled by the Roman government? A Google on the history of Bible will help you.

*sorry, faith and reason are diametrically opposed - a parallel line that will never meet. Google both words, and you will be well educated.

*now that you said am voicing folly, how do you want me to respond to you now?.....?.......?......You are forgiven this time.

The guy you quoted is very ignorant and he doesn't wanna calm down so he can learn. Using his stupid dead logic, spiderman must be real since real place like New York was mentioned in the comics.

The dumb guy doesn't know shit 'bout his religion. He only listen to the brainwashing from the men in a $200 dollar suit.
He doesn't know Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire as a political tool to control people.. The guy don't even know how the buybull came 'bout... He doesn't know why dec 25 is Christmas, the dumbo doesn't know why Sunday is their day of worship instead of Saturday.. He's just a fucking ignorant zombie. I don't even even know where to start schooling him

valboy20:


The guy you quoted is very ignorant and he doesn't wanna calm down so he can learn. Using his stupid dead logic, spiderman must be real since real place like New York was mentioned in the comics.

The dumb guy doesn't know shit 'bout his religion. He only listen to the brainwashing from the men in a $200 dollar suit.
He doesn't know Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire as a political tool to control people.. The guy don't even know how the buybull came 'bout... He doesn't know why dec 25 is Christmas, the dumbo doesn't know why Sunday is their day of worship instead of Saturday.. He's just a fucking ignorant zombie. I don't even even know where to start schooling him

akintom:


You have just abundantly further confirm, the many bare face lies of your primitive religion.

Luckylife:
This agent is not the first nor the last to try to lure confused victims astray . Many beyond it have try but failed big time , so only an experience will touch your confused/tapped spirit . Are you scare of the reaction of our Muslim brothers for will kill for their god that why you unwisely use Christians God ?

davtosh:
From the point no1 to the last are all feeble Lies made up to tanish the image of your maker.

point 11 shows how shallow your thinking is and that you are not even one of the smart atheists
on LN.

No Christian says everyone that made it outside Christianity made it the Devil's way. The Bible doesnt preach that neither do BELIEVERS.
You don't have to be a Christian to be smart, Wise, Rich, or Nice.

When next you want to post a comment read over and over and check if it's reasonable and factual.

hopefulLandlord:


I remember having a discussion with a Christian on this forum and quickly said anyone who isn't a Christian serves the devil

it sounded ridiculous so I decided to indulge further by asking if Muslims, Buddhists, Judaism, Hindus etc are of the devil and the person replied with an emphatic yes

its only logical that such a person believes we succeed by the power of the devil

Anas09:

Oh. Sorry oo. There's no middle ground. You are either for God or for the devil. You ve picked a side already.

hopefulLandlord:

Buddhists are for the devil

Hindus are for the devil

Muslims are for the devil

Atheists are for the devil

Taoists are for the devil

Olodumare worshippers are of the devil

Any religion outside yours is of the devil

Anas09:

Yes they are. If you don't know that by now, then I will understand why you think the way you do

hopefulLandlord:


I'm sure by "God" you mean Yahweh
.
so Hindus are for the devil?
.
Buddhists are for the devil?
.
all believers in the other 5000 gods are for the devil?
.
.

whitestar01:
Yes, because Christ says if you reject me you have rejected my father.

hopefulLandlord:


I remember having a discussion with a Christian on this forum and quickly said anyone who isn't a Christian serves the devil

it sounded ridiculous so I decided to indulge further by asking if Muslims, Buddhists, Judaism, Hindus etc are of the devil and the person replied with an emphatic yes

its only logical that such a person believes we succeed by the power of the devil

hopefulLandlord:
@ Davtosh, here is the conversation because I don't want you to take my word for it



I replied with the below



I got this reply



the message here is clear enough


there's another one



I got the below reply



so let me use your words against you because it fits more

"When next you want to post a comment read over and over and check if it's reasonable and factual."

davtosh:



Well there are Christians and there are Christians, Many are baby Christians that are not really grounded in the word of God. So they make some flaws in their sincere bid to defend their faith.

When I was in the secondary school the best student in my set was not a Christian. Does it mean it was the Devil that gave him the knowledge and smartness ? No. CHRISTIANITY has nothing to do with that.
Likewise Riches and many other worldly possessions.

Anyone can have them in a legitimate way

Being a Nice person too has nothing to do with Christianity. Although all Christians are supposed to be Nice ppl.
But not all non christians are not nice ppl.

Jesus when telling the parable of the Good Samaritan buttressed this point.

When the man fell into the hands of THIEVES and got injured it was a priest that first passed by ignoring the victim, afterwards a Levite passed by and ignored the victim but when the Samaritan came, who must be a gentile , he was the one who showed compassion on the victim.

So many of the allegations of atheists against Christians and their beliefs are Lies from the pit of hell. Like all the 11 points raised on the thread.

Shalom

point 11 shows how shallow your thinking is and that you are not even one of the smart atheists
on LN.

No Christian says everyone that made it outside Christianity made it the Devil's way.

davtosh:



If you asked if there is any Religion that is Genuine and Acceptable by God besides Christianity.

The answer is No.

Jesus is the only true way to the father Jehovah, That is the truth and no apology for that.

Those guys are right except the one that said there is no clean wealth outside Christianity.

There are legitimate wealth outside Christianity and that too is a fact.