randomperson we are waiting for you to share this evidence for evolution which you say exists so we can learn and swallow our shame.

4everGod:



I guess the OP indeed was gibberish to you since you said thats what science looks like to you. So if science sounds like gibberish to you how then do you know what evolution is all about? Have you suddenly now known how to interpret scientific language?

Everywhere in the OP leading physicists and biochemists with nobel laureates have all denied evolution and their ramblings.

Since you are suddenly now science inclined can you attempt to refute the OP?

Where did I say an science inclined... Evolution is what it is, a theory. Your epistle doesn't make it any more or less so... People who claim evolution show fossils showing a gradual transformation from one form of life to another, the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms e.t.c. these claims are not proof but they serve as suggestion of a theory
Creationism has been so debunked that the SCOTUS has held that it shouldn't be taught in public schools either as an addition or alternative to mainstream evolutionary theory

benzics:

They should even ask themselves, since god has always been, that means the earth to has always been, because according to their folklore, he created the earth on the first day.

And they should ask themselves why this same god created, Jupiter Mars, Venus and other non-habitable planets, and why he created billions of stars in our galaxy.

They also claim that the three wise men saw a star that led them to Christ, when basically all Stars we see are dead stars, so a star died billions of years ago only to tell you that Jesus will be born in a billion year time? Ya right, sounds like Christianity to me, dumb as always!

Hei!

Is it that once a person becomes an "atheist", he or she is cursed with a level of ignorance that is astonishing?

This alone makes this guy worthy of no consideration from any serious and informed individual.

Will you go and read the Bible, please, and stop embarrassing yourself?

benzics:
I just have to exclaim.

"JESUUU!!! ".....

So penguins migrated to enter an ark because they knew they would go extinct if they don't? Chai
And they even knew where the ark was located and just two opposite sex migrated and not the whole group?
Migration Kwa!!!

please point where this claim was made.

you seem to fake up a lie, disprove the lies you faked up and call yourself a genius.

get well soon.

randomperson:

Where did I say an science inclined... Evolution is what it is, a theory. Your epistle doesn't make it any more or less so... People who claim evolution show fossils showing a gradual transformation from one form of life to another, the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms e.t.c. these claims are not proof but they serve as suggestion of a theory
Creationism has been so debunked that the SCOTUS has held that it shouldn't be taught in public schools either as an addition or alternative to mainstream evolutionary theory

Your fellow atheist say evolution is a fact and you are saying same since you said there is evidence. can we see this evidence?..

Or are you now shifting from evidence to suggestions of evidence?

randomperson:

Well... That's convenient, isn't it... God created the first man but nobody created god...
An idea just came to me now... How do u know that the god u worship is not just like a governor or representative. That there is another being who commissioned him to create the earth and give the law

you are yet to understand the difference between GOD and Yahweh for Christians.

A famous Dutch botanist Hugo de Vries aptly explained this problem by stating, “Natural selection may explain the survival of the fittest, but it cannot explain the arrival of the fittest”

Yes, it cannot explain the arrival of the fittest, but that isn't what evolution is about, evolution is not about "how the first species came to be", it is basically "how all the species we have today, evolved from similar descendants"..

Nuff said..
The DNA we share with other animals proves that indeed, we came from some kind of descendant.

But according to the creation story, man was created from dust and animals were created by speech.. Then can anyone explain why we share similar DNAs??

randomperson:

That's not true... Got banned last week, but why let objectivity get in the way of your preferred narrative? It's the same idea that fuels Christianity

may be you have to go through this thread to understand little of what I meant.

https://www.nairaland.com/3485930/exposing-hardmirror-tale-two-mirrors#51367525

Hold up...

Did I just witness Atheists denying evolution?

Where's Uncle Seun, please come and explain to me that hominids killing of their predecessors and how we evolved from dumb to smart.


Wish to create time and grace this thread as it deserves ooo.

Y'all Atheists be thinking with bogus grammars you can fool alot others... Where's Hanh and hopefulLandlord?

Y'all need explain something... You two were busy backing seun up with that evolution crap, only for you two to seemingly deny it here?

benzics:

Yes, it cannot explain the arrival of the fittest, but that isn't what evolution is about, evolution is not about "how the first species came to be", it is basically "how all the species we have today, evolved from similar descendants"..

Nuff said..
The DNA we share with other animals proves that indeed, we came from some kind of descendant.

But according to the creation story, man was created from dust and animals were created by speech.. Then can anyone explain why we share similar DNAs??

Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? if you read the OP you would see where even geneticists denied evolution. Abi you no see am?

Do you know anything about DNA at all? Again you are making hasty generalisations.

Do you know what a slight DNA variation would do to you as a person?

4everGod:


Shut your mouth! Is there any part of the OP you even weakly attempted? You lot claim to be intelligent but when real intelligence confronts you, you all start throwing red herrings everywhere.

his aim is to derail the thread while I think we are helping him achieve it.

Gombs:
Hold up...

Did I just witness Atheists denying evolution?

Where's Uncle Seun, please come and explain to me that hominids killing of their predecessors and how we evolved from dumb to smart.


Wish to create time and grace this thread as it deserves ooo.

Y'all Atheists be thinking with bogus grammars you can fool alot others... Where's Hanh and hopefulLandlord?

Y'all need explain something... You two were busy backing seun up with that evolution crap, only for you two to seemingly deny it here?

Not seemingly! They categorically denied it.

4everGod:


Not seemingly! They categorically denied it.

Shameless, yeah?

4everGod:


Shut your mouth dia. Every scientist says the dating methods are not perfect but close to it and you alone are saying thay have been repeatedly proven to be constant. Do you even know why i used the water analogy? Its because water being difficult is akin to the billions of years man claims the universe is when they never witnessed the very first occurrence but only assume.

I believe 4kings can school you better as i doubt if you know a jot about science.

Can you disprove the OP?

I don't think he can.

Some have said they have evidence of evolution and when asked for this evidence they changed it to "suggestions of evidence".

I have never seen this magnitude of denials and goal post shifting in a long while. Such idiocy!

4everGod:
Every single atheist who graced this thread suddenly went unscientific and all began to shy away from using science to disprove the OP. Is there no atheist brave enough to attempt a detailed demolishing of the OP or are they all as cowardly as i thought and full of nothing but BS and red herrings and continuous acts of deception?

I dare any of them to disprove the OP with science same way the OP has disproved evolution with the same science. If evolution is true then disprove the OP.

they got nothing, they are now anti-evolution I guess.

Lenycool cloudgoddess Johnny... where are you?

your effort is needed here please.

4everGod:



Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? if you read the OP you would see where even geneticists denied evolution. Abi you no see am?

Do you know anything about DNA at all? Again you are making hasty generalisations.

Do you know what a slight DNA variation would do to you as a person?

The chimpanzee and another ape, the bonobo, are humans' closest living relatives. These three species look alike in many ways, both in body and behavior. But for a clear understanding of how closely they are related, scientists compare their DNA, an essential molecule that's the instruction manual for building each species. Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA. How can we be so similar--and yet so different?

So Much Alike...
Human and chimp DNA is so similar because the two species are so closely related. Humans, chimps and bonobos descended from a single ancestor species that lived six or seven million years ago. As humans and chimps gradually evolved from a common ancestor, their DNA, passed from generation to generation, changed too. In fact, many of these DNA changes led to differences between human and chimp appearance and behavior.

4everGod:
Some have said they have evidence of evolution and when asked for this evidence they changed it to "suggestions of evidence".

I have never seen this magnitude of denials and goal post shifting in a long while. Such idiocy!

It's frankly embarrassing, especially when coming from the 'enlightened ones' .... Remember that fella who said his IQ increased after being atheist?

Gombs:


Shameless, yeah?

They have denied evolution but will perhaps rather pitch their tent with magic or any other option than creation.

Nobel prize carrying scientists quoted in the OP have called evolution a sham and disgraceful and these armchair atheists here on NL think they know better.

benzics:



The chimpanzee and another ape, the bonobo, are humans' closest living relatives. These three species look alike in many ways, both in body and behavior. But for a clear understanding of how closely they are related, scientists compare their DNA, an essential molecule that's the instruction manual for building each species. Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA. How can we be so similar--and yet so different?

So Much Alike...
Human and chimp DNA is so similar because the two species are so closely related. Humans, chimps and bonobos descended from a single ancestor species that lived six or seven million years ago. As humans and chimps gradually evolved from a common ancestor, their DNA, passed from generation to generation, changed too. In fact, many of these DNA changes led to differences between human and chimp appearance and behavior.

Please, save us the emotional trauma of seeing you like this...

Are you not entertained, yet?

4everGod:


Your fellow atheist say evolution is a fact and you are saying same since you said there is evidence. can we see this evidence?..

Or are you now shifting from evidence to suggestions of evidence?

Seems u don't know the different between evidence and proof...
Am going to use a legal definition because it's concise:
A fact which by itself or in connection with other facts, the existence, non- existence, probability, nature or extent of another fact is proven.
The proven facts are the existence of fossils and the anatomical and chemical similarities. They make the idea of evolution more probable.
Evolution is not a fact because there's not conclusive proof of it... Buh there are evidence to suggest the existence of evolution.
Gimme one evidence that points to the world created by your god as claimed in the bible

Examine the Evidence
Matching DNA? Human and chimp DNA is nearly identical when you compare the bands on chromosomes, the bundles of DNA inside nearly every cell. Which two chromosomes are more alike?

Banding Patterns
The light and dark bands on these chromosomes, created by a laboratory dye, reveal similarities and differences among human, chimp and mouse DNA.

Human and chimp X chromosomes both contain about 1,100 different genes, or sets of instructions. Each gene affects a particular trait in the body.

Seeing Red
Most genes in humans and chimps are nearly identical. Both species have the OPN1LW gene, which allows them both to see the color red. But mice lack OPN1LW--and have trouble seeing red.

... And Yet So Different
If human and chimp DNA is 98.8 percent the same, why are we so different? Numbers tell part of the story. Each human cell contains roughly three billion base pairs, or bits of information. Just 1.2 percent of that equals about 35 million differences. Some of these have a big impact, others don't. And even two identical stretches of DNA can work differently--they can be "turned on" in different amounts, in different places or at different times.

ambassagod:


they got nothing, they are now anti-evolution I guess.

Lenycool cloudgoddess Johnny... where are you?

your effort is needed here please.

U people don't understand English... Evolution is not proven but it's more credible than creationism... This is common sense now... Is it that scarce these days?

I think we should have a thread with title "Nairaland Atheists categorically denies evolution :Read Testimonies "


What sayeth y'all?

benzics:
I don't have "faith" cuz that's ignorance at it's peak.

And religion brought the idea of God, do you ever read??

[b] "In ancient times, religion was indistinguishable from what is known as `mythology' in the present day and consisted of regular rituals based on a belief in higher supernatural entities who created and continued to maintain the world and surrounding cosmos. Theses entities were anthropomorphic and behaved in ways which mirrored the values of the culture closely (as in Egypt) or sometimes engaged in acts antithetical to those values (as one sees with the gods of Greece). Religion, then and now, concerns itself with the spiritual aspect of the human condition, gods and goddesses (or a single personal god or goddess), the creation of the world, a human being’s place in the world, life after death, eternity, and how to escape from suffering in this world or in the next; and every nation has created its own god in its own image and resemblance. The Greek philosopher Xenophanes of Colophon (c. 570-478 BCE) once wrote:

Mortals suppose that the gods are born and have clothes and voices and shapes like their own. But if oxen, horses and lions had hands or could paint with their hands and fashion works as men do, horses would paint horse-like images of gods and oxen oxen-like ones, and each would fashion bodies like their own. The Ethiopians consider the gods flat-nosed and black; the Thracians blue-eyed and red-haired.
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Humans have basically imagined gods through out history and have got some kind of book written about these gods.. so when you tell me there is God I don't take you serious, but just know that the flying spaghetti monster is real, if only you can prove that's FSM is not real

faith is ignorance at it's peak?? I am done.

but wait, can you prove to me that the copy and paste you did here is true and reliable?

anybody can just write anything stupid as this and kids like you who are gullible of knowing the real thing would swallow them up.

have you researched what he said and found it to be true?

The 2 bonobos up there who know nothing about genetics but copy and paste. Garbage in garbage out now thing they know better than leading geneticists who have called evolution a sham and a disgrace.

I suggest they read the OP.

randomperson:

U people don't understand English... Evolution is not proven but it's more credible than creationism... This is common sense now... Is it that scarce these days?

Then tell me how more credible it is. I am all ears.

you can tutor me now.

hopefulLandlord:


typo, happens to the best of us

I see.
What is going on nah? I seriously expected that the NL atheists would have dismantled this Op and brought this thread to its knees by now.

Its unsually queit in here. This is the kind of thread where the likes of Johnnydon22, Urahara, TheOnejubulani, Wilgrea7, Dalaman have you not seen this thread yet? Acidocis, where are you? Seun, Cloudegoddess, lepasharon just run around calling God skydaddy, she has nothing to offer.

Well, as Hardmirror became an atheist, i guess he shd be able to come in here and school us abit. Where is Hardmirror? Plaeton why are you pretending not to see this thread? HPaul where are you? Where is akintom? Frank316. You guys shd come out here biko.

Only this bendzics guy who has made a carrier of evading the Op is left here wresting the ground.

Since it looks like we're trying to really understand evolution, because the op is so stupid.

I continue.

Same Genes, Behaving Differently
Although humans and chimps have many identical genes, they often use them in different ways. A gene's activity, or expression, can be turned up or down like the volume on a radio. So the same gene can be turned up high in humans, but very low in chimps.

The same genes are expressed in the same brain regions in human, chimp and gorilla, but in different amounts. Thousands of differences like these affect brain development and function, and help explain why the human brain is larger and smarter.

Slightly Different Genes
The chimpanzee immune system is surprisingly similar to ours--most viruses that cause diseases like AIDS and hepatitis can infect chimpanzees too. But chimps don't get infected by the malaria parasite Plasmodium falciparum, which a mosquito can transmit through its bite into human blood. A small DNA difference makes human red blood cells vulnerable to this parasite, while chimp blood cells are resistant. ..
Do you even understand what am saying?? I guess not

ambassagod:


faith is ignorance at it's peak?? I am done.

but wait, can you prove to me that the copy and paste you did here is true and reliable?

anybody can just write anything stupid as this and kids like you who are gullible of knowing the real thing would swallow them up.

have you researched what he said and found it to be true?

Have u researched what 4everGod posted and found it to be true... Hypocrisy at its peak

Gombs:
I think we should have a thread with title "Nairaland Atheists categorically denies evolution :Read Testimonies "


What sayeth y'all?

I concur

ambassagod:


Then tell me how more credible it is. I am all ears.

you can tutor me now.

I already tutored 4evergod, and a good student is one who can teach others... So why not ask him