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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:17am On Dec 13, 2016
Anas09:

I see.
What is going on nah? I seriously expected that the NL atheists would have dismantled this Op and brought this thread to its knees by now.

Its unsually queit in here. This is the kind of thread where the likes of Johnnydon22, Urahara, TheOnejubulani, Wilgrea7, Dalaman have you not seen this thread yet? Acidocis, where are you? Seun, Cloudegoddess, lepasharon just run around calling God skydaddy, she has nothing to offer.

Well, as Hardmirror became an atheist, i guess he shd be able to come in here and school us abit. Where is Hardmirror? Plaeton why are you pretending not to see this thread? HPaul where are you? Where is akintom? Frank316. You guys shd come out here biko.

Only this bendzics guy who has made a carrier of evading the Op is left here wresting the ground.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 8:17am On Dec 13, 2016
Gombs:
Hold up...

Did I just witness Atheists denying evolution? grin grin

Where's Uncle Seun, please come and explain to me that hominids killing of their predecessors and how we evolved from dumb to smart.


Wish to create time and grace this thread as it deserves ooo.

Y'all Atheists be thinking with bogus grammars you can fool alot others... Where's Hanh and hopefulLandlord?

Y'all need explain something... You two were busy backing seun up with that evolution crap, only for you two to seemingly deny it here? shocked
And what is your alternative to evolution if I may ask. Seems you know something many of us don't know

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Anas09: 8:17am On Dec 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Age of the earth you mean ?

Well , rocks and minerals are best used to determine the age of the earth . Then there's the cyanobacteria which is the earliest fossil known I think - its about 3 billion years ago - which were found in rocks .

And Progressive creationism has to do with gradual formation of life not by evolution but through creation by God . There's evidence for these - I mean how old they are - but there's no proof of transition from one form to another . Its all speculation by the evolutionists .
Am inclined to tow your line of thought here with regards to the age of Earth (not man) . For, am thinking, for Adam, The Fall activated time, and time brought about aging which broughts death which let us to counting generations.

Reason abit with me. The Bible said, when God created Earth, day and night brought about seasons. This means time was passing and counting on the Earth, but that Time obviously didn't affect Man. And, because Time wasn't couageless, Man, Man was ageless and couldnt assertain how much time had passed him by.

When Man fell, Time started counting on or agaisnt man.
Scientists are using the rocks and animal fossils to assertain how old the earth is, to that i can agree, for we do not know how many millions of years the earth had existed before Adam knew what time was and had a reason to start counting.

The Young Creationists believe the earth is 6000 or so years old, by calculating geneologies, but what about the time that had elasped behind Adam's Fall.

I ask myself this everytime, ' Was the Timelessness and agelessness of the then Man binding on animals too, or were the animals growing old and dying?


Today we are told that, there are some animals which are extinct, could it be they grew old died and got extinct before the Fall or shortly after the Fall?

This, to some extent, makes me think that the earth is not just 6000 yrs old as we are made to believe.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 8:18am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Trying to discredit evolution is just silly. Even the Catholic church, which rejects contraceptive use, accepts evolution. Stop disgracing yourself! This is not to say that I don't welcome questioning of evolution, but do you think smarter people haven't asked the same questions since 1859?
Abi ooo
But what do you think of radioactive dating methods, are they accurate?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Anas09: 8:18am On Dec 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Age of the earth you mean ?

Well , rocks and minerals are best used to determine the age of the earth . Then there's the cyanobacteria which is the earliest fossil known I think - its about 3 billion years ago - which were found in rocks .

And Progressive creationism has to do with gradual formation of life not by evolution but through creation by God . There's evidence for these - I mean how old they are - but there's no proof of transition from one form to another . Its all speculation by the evolutionists .
Cc: 4everGod
Deepsight.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:19am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

Have u researched what 4everGod posted and found it to be true... Hypocrisy at its peak
of course I have!

now tell me the hypocrisy.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 8:19am On Dec 13, 2016
Teempakguy:

If you really want to go philosophical, let's do it.

Premise two is false. It is based on a hasty generalization of conservation laws. All conservation laws only apply in this specific universe. If there exists a multiverse, there definitely will be universes that do not have conservation laws.
Really!!


I think you misunderstand the concept of Nothing. Take outer space. It is not nothing. it contains a so called dark energy that keeps it from collapsing and in fact expands it. it obeys laws and updates itself at the speed of light. even though it seems to be nothing. Imagne a single dimension. a single dot. all of this is nothing.
is a square circle or imaginary complex numbers "nothing" ??

In nothing, there is no time orspace, there is no concept of anything. the human mind is quite incapable of imagining nothing because it cannot normally imagine anything with dimensions lesser than two or more than four.

How can there be no TIME before creating "Something with Time"?

Let me illustrate; 3 2 1 " Big bang". Is "prior time" being eliminated here?


Because One of your premises is faulty, your whole argument is questionable and an infinite regress immediately arises. in order to solve this, you Invented a concept of self-existent objects. When in fact, they are quite unnessesary. Any object can and will create itself if there are no laws to prevent it.

@bolded, please explain

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:19am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

I already tutored 4evergod, and a good student is one who can teach others... So why not ask him

are you afraid??
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 8:21am On Dec 13, 2016
4kings:
Abi ooo
But what do you think of radioactive dating methods, are they accurate?
I think they're not perfectly accurate, but scientists are aware of the limitations of their accuracy, which is why they use many dating methods.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:21am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

I already tutored 4evergod, and a good student is one who can teach others... So why not ask him

you tutored 4everGod? in which thread? this thread?

you are a joker.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:22am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

Funny how u ignored the evidence for evolution and ignored the lack of evidence for creationism

what evidence of evolution?? the debunked one?

abeg just gerawt.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 8:22am On Dec 13, 2016
Gombs:
I think we should have a thread with title "Nairaland Atheists categorically denies evolution :Read Testimonies "


What sayeth y'all?
What a shame. Little wonder you believe in the genesis account of creation.
Educate us please I honestly want to learn. Tell us how life came to be. Do that or just shut up, because atheism does not mean supporting every scientific theories, but I for one see a lot of sense in evolution and I see it getting us more answers
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:25am On Dec 13, 2016
benzics:

Have you also researched on the Bible ?

Anybody can just write anything stupid as the bible and you who are gullible of knowing the right thing just swallow them

But wait can you prove to me that the Bible that claims the sun revolves around the earth is true and reliable?


I have researched the Bible and found to be powerful, and filled with unadulterated word of God.

you have problem with that??

now back to my question.

can you prove that the copy and paste is true??
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 8:26am On Dec 13, 2016
Anas09:

Cc: 4everGod
Deepsight.
Anas09, let's pretend you are making sense and have something reasonable to offer. Please tell us how life and diversity of species came about. I am forgetting about evolution temporarily so I can learn from your great knowledge. Teach us pls
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 8:27am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

I think they're not perfectly accurate, but scientists are aware of the limitations of their accuracy, which is why they use many dating methods.
Thanks.
Just realized that.

But that in no way disproves evolution
Cc 4evergod
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:28am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

It's still evidence... I already schooled u on the distinction between evidence and proof... Why do u insist on reveling in ignorance?? Don't be deceived, ignorance is not bliss

lol

distinction between evidence and proof??

sorry, who did this to you?

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:31am On Dec 13, 2016
benzics:

God is a title used to refer to deities

you see why saying that you deranged and delusion is not a crime? no insult intended.

I saw this on time, that's why I asked.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by WORLDPEACE(m): 8:31am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

The scientific community is the most skeptical group of people in the world. What is the probability that a bunch of religious apologists on Nairaland have noticed game-changing flaws in the theory of evolution that the scientific community didn't notice during 157 years of intense study? I welcome any honest scrutiny of the theory of evolution, but it is absolutely bonkers to claim that you have "exposed it as a fraud".
It is true that the scientific community is a skeptical group but they are not all skeptically studying the same thing. They have different interests in science. Nobody has a life span long enough to study everything. So the whole group are not all experts in evolution. The whole community is therefore not as relevant as you think. Only those whose focus on evolution are. Don't tell him not to use his mind. Direct him to what they have written.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 8:33am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

The scientific community is the most skeptical group of people in the world. What is the probability that a bunch of religious apologists on Nairaland have noticed game-changing flaws in the theory of evolution that the scientific community didn't notice during 157 years of intense study? I welcome any honest scrutiny of the theory of evolution, but it is absolutely bonkers to claim that you have "exposed it as a fraud".

I admire your wealth of knowledge, sir. We share similar views anyway
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 8:33am On Dec 13, 2016
HardMirror:

Anas09, let's pretend you are making sense and have something reasonable to offer. Please tell us how life and diversity of species came about. I am forgetting about evolution temporarily so I can learn from your great knowledge. Teach us pls
Anas09 you called me to this useless thread, mentioning me 3 times all within one post. Answer me now. You are indeed immature and I think it is time I totally start ignoring u. That was how you came the other day bragging you had evidences I was never a student in futa, empty barrel. Now come and school me on evolution. You just like following crowd without any iota of sense. People are talking you are also here claiming you have something intelligent to say. I am listening to you. Tell me what you know about the origin of species. Educate us I pray you.
You are so learned and you are very knowledgeable, pls school us. Else just stop mentioning me.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:33am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Trying to discredit evolution is just silly. Even the Catholic church, which rejects contraceptive use, accepts evolution. Stop disgracing yourself! This is not to say that I don't welcome questioning of evolution, but do you think smarter people haven't asked the same questions since 1859?

4everGod, what kind of delusion would we call this?

anyway, it is normal, no surprise.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:35am On Dec 13, 2016
Anas09:

You keep calling people dumb when you the dumb here. You believe in reproduction, yet you dodnt believe in the account of creation which enjoines all the animals tonreproduce according to their kind? Worrrrriiissssdiissss?

delusion
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 8:36am On Dec 13, 2016
Why take these folks serious anyway? All I see are emotional banters as if kicking because we reject their cock annd bull story. Let's give them the chance to educate us on the origin of species since they know so much
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:37am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

God!! I have to school you again?? Okay, listen very well.
Someone is charged for murder, evidence might include the fact that there was a possible motive, that the accused was at the scene of the crime, that there was a threat of murder from the accused. All these are evidence but they are not proof. Get it now?? U compile each and every evidence to show proof. That's why cases are won by preponderance of evidence

please stop insulting yourself.

help yourself with this.

Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 8:40am On Dec 13, 2016
ambassagod:


are you afraid??
Afraid of what?? Am on the ballon d or thread, so I don't have the time to be repeating myself... Check my other comments but if you don't understand tell me.. I will create the time for u
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by hopefulLandlord: 8:41am On Dec 13, 2016
Gombs:
Hold up...

Did I just witness Atheists denying evolution? grin grin

Where's Uncle Seun, please come and explain to me that hominids killing of their predecessors and how we evolved from dumb to smart.


Wish to create time and grace this thread as it deserves ooo.

Y'all Atheists be thinking with bogus grammars you can fool alot others... Where's Hanh and hopefulLandlord?

Y'all need explain something... You two were busy backing seun up with that evolution crap, only for you two to seemingly deny it here? shocked

Chai!!!

why this mention now?

can you point to any thread I ever argued in favour of evolution?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:43am On Dec 13, 2016
“Every paleontologist knows that most species don’t change. That’s bothersome….brings terrible distress. ….They may get a little bigger or bumpier but they remain the same species and that’s not due to imperfection and gaps but stasis. And yet this remarkable stasis has generally been ignored as no data. If they don’t change, its not evolution so you don’t talk about it.” -Stephen J. Gould





I'm waiting for Nairaland atheists to come and say that Stephen J Gould is not a real scientist. grin

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 8:44am On Dec 13, 2016
ambassagod:


please stop insulting yourself.

help yourself with this.
Can u read?? Proof establishes, evidence indicates...
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 8:45am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

The pics u posted only aid my argument. But I guess your powers of comprehension are terrible.
Read what u posted... Proof ESTABLISHES, Evidence INDICATES

aid your argument??

fine, bye
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by hopefulLandlord: 8:46am On Dec 13, 2016
Anas09:

I see.
What is going on nah? I seriously expected that the NL atheists would have dismantled this Op and brought this thread to its knees by now.

Its unsually queit in here. This is the kind of thread where the likes of Johnnydon22, Urahara, TheOnejubulani, Wilgrea7, Dalaman have you not seen this thread yet? Acidocis, where are you? Seun, Cloudegoddess, lepasharon just run around calling God skydaddy, she has nothing to offer.

Well, as Hardmirror became an atheist, i guess he shd be able to come in here and school us abit. Where is Hardmirror? Plaeton why are you pretending not to see this thread? HPaul where are you? Where is akintom? Frank316. You guys shd come out here biko.

Only this bendzics guy who has made a carrier of evading the Op is left here wresting the ground.

first off, I've NEVER argued for evolution, I've always maintained that I keep all my options open

I'm pretty sure there are many atheists and evolution theorist that can answer the OP satisfactorily

I think the problem with the OP is that

1 its too long

2 it overwhelms you with many questions making it very arduous to address one after the other

this makes many just ignore or tackle one point
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:53am On Dec 13, 2016
benzics,

Receive sense and knowledge in your life. The human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the chimpanzee Y chromosome and the chromosome structures are not at all similar.

I'm not gonna give you a link on that. Simply search to see whether it's true or not.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 8:54am On Dec 13, 2016
HardMirror:
And what is your alternative to evolution if I may ask. Seems you know something many of us don't know
I hope they will answer this. Ambassagod, Anas09, DoctorAlien, can you tell us about your superior alternative to the theory of evolution?

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