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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:57am On Dec 13, 2016
Darwinians have been dead wrong whenever they have claimed that the "genetic matter of ape and humans is 98% identical." The ape and human chromosomes are remarkably divergent and too different for "ape to human evolution" theory to adequately explain. For example, the human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the chimpanzee Y chromosome and the chromosome structures are not at all similar.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 8:58am On Dec 13, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I think the problem with the OP is that
1 its too long
2 it overwhelms you with many questions making it very arduous to address one after the other
this makes many just ignore or tackle one point
Yeah, it's a classic tactic by apologists. It is easier to manufacture bullshit than to expose it, so they just overwhelm us with torrents of bullshit.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:59am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
I hope they will answer this. Ambassagod, Anas09, DoctorAlien, can you tell us about your superior alternative to the theory of evolution?

Creation as narrated in the Bible. As a matter of fact, it is the only sensible account for the existence of life.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 9:04am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Creation as narrated in the Bible. As a matter of fact, it is the only sensible account for the existence of life.
Sensible are u fvcking kidding me?? The creation story that says light was created before sun. Or which creation story are u talking about because there are two different ones in the bible

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 9:04am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
I hope they will answer this. Ambassagod, Anas09, DoctorAlien, can you tell us about your superior alternative to the theory of evolution?

intelligent design

simple!
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by ambassagod: 9:06am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun it is not by chance!
drop it.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 9:07am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Creation as narrated in the Bible. As a matter of fact, it is the only sensible account for the existence of life.
Are you kidding me? You believe that man is made of soil? Women are made of rib bone? That light was created before the sun? Why do we look like shaved chimpanzees if we were created in the image of God? Was the chimpanzee also created in the image of God? Oh my goodness!

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by hopefulLandlord: 9:10am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

Sensible are u fvcking kidding me?? The creation story that says light was created before sun. Or which creation story are u talking about because there are two different ones in the bible

lol

did you see how our dear deluded Christian apologists ran away when I pointed out that there are two different creation stories in their hole-ly book few days back?

grin
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:15am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

Sensible are u fvcking kidding me?? The creation story that says light was created before sun. Or which creation story are u talking about because there are two different ones in the bible

Think with your head please?

Is the sun light? The sun is simply a source of light. Just like a torch is not light: it is a source of light.

GOD declared "Let there be light" and there was light. He did not say "let there be light for the earth" on the first day. He simply said "let there be light." You get it? GOD created the concept of light in this Universe. And He ordained it to be that when the light is, there is day, and when the darkness(which is the absence of light) is, there is night.

The sun was created to give light(to be a light-source) to the earth(Gen. 1:15), and it was created for times and seasons(now the earth revolves around the sun, and this revolution brings about seasons).

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 9:17am On Dec 13, 2016
ambassagod:
intelligent design ... simple!
For what intelligent purpose did the designer design diseases like AIDS, Ebola, flu, catarrh, Smallpox, the plague, etc which have killed billions?

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by hopefulLandlord: 9:18am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Think with your head please?

Is the sun light? The sun is simply a source of light. Just like a torch is not light: it is a source of light.

GOD declared "Let there be light" and there was light. He did not say "let there be light for the earth" on the first day. He simply said "let there be light." You get it? GOD created the concept of light in this Universe.

The sun was created to give light(to be a light-source) to the earth(Gen. 1:15), and it was created for times and seasons(now the earth revolves around the sun, and this revolution brings about seasons).

educate yourself http://www.leighb.com/genesis.htm

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:19am On Dec 13, 2016
Page 20 and not even a single worthy rebuttal against the OP . All these evolutionists especially the atheists should start saying something reasonable ooo

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 9:20am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Think with your head please?

Is the sun light? The sun is simply a source of light. Just like a torch is not light: it is a source of light.

GOD declared "Let there be light" and there was light. He did not say "let there be light for the earth" on the first day. He simply said "let there be light." You get it? GOD created the concept of light in this Universe. And He ordained it to be that when the light is, there is day, and when the darkness(which is the absence of light) is, there is night.

The sun was created to give light(to be a light-source) to the earth(Gen. 1:15), and it was created for times and seasons(now the earth revolves around the sun, and this revolution brings about seasons).
The sun was created on the fourth day, but light was created on the first day... So if the sun is the source of light, where did the light of the first day come from and how come there was day and night on the first day?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 9:22am On Dec 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Page 20 and not even a single worthy rebuttal against the OP . All these evolutionists especially the atheists should start saying something reasonable ooo
What is your alternative to evolution? If the scientific theory of evolution is false, then surely you have a more correct theory to share with us?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:24am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Are you kidding me? You believe that man is made of soil? Women are made of rib bone? That light was created before the sun? Why do we look like shaved chimpanzees if we were created in the image of God? Was the chimpanzee also created in the image of God? Oh my goodness!

I believe that man was created from the dust of the ground.

Why do you assume that the image of GOD in man is all about outward looks? Angels have the external features of man like legs and hands and even hair, but the Bible never said that they were created in GOD's image.

Stop constructing strawman arguments. You don't interpret the Bible to mean what you want, and then attack that interpretation of yours. It's not intellectual.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 9:27am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


I believe that man was created from the dust of the ground.

Why do you assume that the image of GOD in man is all about outward looks? Angels have the external features of man like legs and hands and even hair, but the Bible never said that they were created in GOD's image.

Stop constructing strawman arguments. You don't interpret the Bible to mean what you want, and then attack that interpretation of yours. It's not intellectual.
Image means physical appearance... Everyone knows that
And u believe man was created from dust?? I guess that's proven right?

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 9:31am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:
You don't interpret the Bible to mean what you want, and then attack that interpretation of yours. It's not intellectual.
Is this your way of saying that you don't believe in the straightforward interpretation of the biblical creation story? If so, it's disingenuous to say you believe in the biblical creation story. It's like someone saying he accepts the theory of evolution but his definition of evolution is different.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:33am On Dec 13, 2016
Anas09:

Am inclined to tow your line of thought here with regards to the age of Earth (not man) . For, am thinking, for Adam, The Fall activated time, and time brought about aging which broughts death which let us to counting generations.

Reason abit with me. The Bible said, when God created Earth, day and night brought about seasons. This means time was passing and counting on the Earth, but that Time obviously didn't affect Man. And, because Time wasn't couageless, Man, Man was ageless and couldnt assertain how much time had passed him by.

When Man fell, Time started counting on or agaisnt man.
Scientists are using the rocks and animal fossils to assertain how old the earth is, to that i can agree, for we do not know how many millions of years the earth had existed before Adam knew what time was and had a reason to start counting.

The Young Creationists believe the earth is 6000 or so years old, by calculating geneologies, but what about the time that had elasped behind Adam's Fall.

I ask myself this everytime, ' Was the Timelessness and agelessness of the then Man binding on animals too, or were the animals growing old and dying?


Today we are told that, there are some animals which are extinct, could it be they grew old died and got extinct before the Fall or shortly after the Fall?

This, to some extent, makes me think that the earth is not just 6000 yrs old as we are made to believe.

I get what you mean but Adam was not created to be immortal . The Fall of Man did not activate time . If you conflate ideas from New Earth creationism and old earth creationism , you gona get stuck somewhere .

There are variants of progressive creationism . I believe the earth was reconstructed and life recommenced . There is another variant that contravenes the meaning of "day" in Hebrew . "Day" in Hebrew means

1. A part of 24-hour day

2. 24-hour day

3. And a long unspecified period of time

While "Morning" and "Evening" were used metaphorically to describe the beginning and end of this unspecified long period of time . There are so many evidences that prove that they weren't 7 literal days .

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:33am On Dec 13, 2016
randomperson:

The sun was created on the fourth day, but light was created on the first day... So if the sun is the source of light, where did the light of the first day come from and how come there was day and night on the first day?

The concept of light in the universe was created on the first day. When the light was yet not created, "darkness was upon the face of the deep."(Gen. 1:2). I admit there are things GOD has not revealed to us, for example, how He was able to make the sun a source of light(finding that out will probably answer many questions). When we get to Heaven, we will know all these, anyway.

It was on that same day that GOD ordained the "day" to be the period when there is light, and the night to be the period when there is darkness.
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:34am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Trying to discredit evolution is just silly. Even the Catholic church, which rejects contraceptive use, accepts evolution. Stop disgracing yourself! This is not to say that I don't welcome questioning of evolution, but do you think smarter people haven't asked the same questions since 1859?

Have you read the OP?

When did the catholic church become your standard seun? Seun stop disgracing yourself even though you are used to it by now.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:36am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

For what intelligent purpose did the designer design diseases like AIDS, Ebola, flu, catarrh, Smallpox, the plague, etc which have killed billions?

To check population ?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:37am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

The scientific community is the most skeptical group of people in the world. What is the probability that a bunch of religious apologists on Nairaland have noticed game-changing flaws in the theory of evolution that the scientific community didn't notice during 157 years of intense study? I welcome any honest scrutiny of the theory of evolution, but it is absolutely bonkers to claim that you have "exposed it as a fraud".

Seun you have repeatedly declared on nairaland that evolution is A FACT! Present your facts lets see them.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:38am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Why do we look like shaved chimpanzees if we were created in the image of God? Was the chimpanzee also created in the image of God? Oh my goodness!

KingEbukasBlog:


Being created in the image of God also referred to the immaterial part of man which is the spirit of man and of course we don't know how that looks like . Remember that God is a spirit - immaterial .

KingEbukasBlog:


In the past I thought it was physical likeness but I discovered that it has to do with mental , social , moral likeness . We are intelligent , we know good or evil and we can interact socially . God is omniscient , God knows good and evil and God has a social nature in the sense that he interacts with men and intervenes in the affairs of men . And before he created men the trinity communed among themselves and they had the angels at some point .
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:39am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

Is this your way of saying that you don't believe in the straightforward interpretation of the biblical creation story? If so, it's disingenuous to say you believe in the biblical creation story. It's like someone saying he accepts the theory of evolution but his definition of evolution is different.

I believe the literal account of Bible creation.

However, you should think twice because angels possess the physical attributes of man like eyes, mouth, ears, legs, hands, thighs, etc. Even lower animals possess these attributes. Yet, the Bible says that only man was created in the image of GOD.

That should make you realise that the image of GOD in man is not about physical properties.

When you also realise that no man has seen GOD(the Father) at any time(Jn. 1:18), you would realise that you don't even know what He looks like. But we are created in His image.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:41am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Are you kidding me? You believe that man is made of soil? Women are made of rib bone? That light was created before the sun? Why do we look like shaved chimpanzees if we were created in the image of God? Was the chimpanzee also created in the image of God? Oh my goodness!
Not to mention human DNA similarity with most living things, we wouldn't share 98% of our DNA with chimps if God made us differently.
you'd have to be either really stupid or really disillusioned to take the bible creation story seriously.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by HardMirror(m): 9:41am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
I hope they will answer this. Ambassagod, Anas09, DoctorAlien, can you tell us about your superior alternative to the theory of evolution?
They will avoid this by all means they know they have nothing intelligent to say as to origin of species
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:42am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


I believe the literal account of Bible creation.

However, you should think twice because angels possess the physical attributes of man like eyes, mouth, ears, legs, hands, thighs, etc. Even lower animals possess these attributes. Yet, the Bible says that only man was created in the image of GOD.

That should make you realise that the image of GOD in man is not about physical properties.

When you also realise that no man has seen GOD(the Father) at any time(Jn. 1:18), you would realise that you don't even know what He looks like. But we are created in His image.

This is just sad. Have you ever seen an angel?

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:43am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Yeah, it's a classic tactic by apologists. It is easier to manufacture bullshit than to expose it, so they just overwhelm us with torrents of bullshit.

Seun the OP just exposed your evolution Bullshit. Can you refute any part of the OP. At least try.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Seun(m): 9:44am On Dec 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
To check population?
That's an unnecessarily cruel way to check population, isn't it? Is that the kind of God you believe in? Also judging by the rate at which animals are going extinct because of us, it's not even working. So your designer is both cruel and incompetent. It would have been far more sensible to check the human population by simply limiting the number of kids a woman can have. Why didn't your intelligent designer think about that?
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Nobody: 9:45am On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:

For what intelligent purpose did the designer design diseases like AIDS, Ebola, flu, catarrh, Smallpox, the plague, etc which have killed billions?

Focus on the OP seun and stop throwing red herrings everywhere. I thought you should know better and be smarter than this

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:45am On Dec 13, 2016
Receive sense into your life and stop rehashing lies that have been proven wrong.
Lennycool:

Not to mention human DNA similarity with most living things, we wouldn't share 98% of our DNA with chimps if God made us differently.
you'd have to be either really stupid or really disillusioned to take the bible creation story seriously.
DoctorAlien:
Darwinians have been dead wrong whenever they have claimed that the "genetic matter of ape and humans is 98% identical." The ape and human chromosomes are remarkably divergent and too different for "ape to human evolution" theory to adequately explain. For example, the human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the chimpanzee Y chromosome and the chromosome structures are not at all similar.

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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by randomperson: 9:46am On Dec 13, 2016
DoctorAlien:


The concept of light in the universe was created on the first day. When the light was yet not created, "darkness was upon the face of the deep."(Gen. 1:2). I admit there are things GOD has not revealed to us, for example, how He was able to make the sun a source of light(finding that out will probably answer many questions). When we get to Heaven, we will know all these, anyway.

It was on that same day that GOD ordained the "day" to be the period when there is light, and the night to be the period when there is darkness.
I don't know why Christians can't just take the bible at its word... The bible says light was made on the first day and sun on the fourth... U should take the bible at its word, it's called faith

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