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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:57am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: Calm down. Did I strike a nerve? Look at your last two statements? You can clearly see vested interests. My article provided stats from 3 independent entities who went door to door and the disparities in their numbers seems reasonable unlike your aeriel analysis. It pains you I know. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Henrydone: 6:58am On Dec 14, 2016 |
So this argument is still on,to stop pre-ambling let hit the nail at the top and bury the hatchet ECONOMY Nigeria GDP-------$492.986 billion (nominal) $1,105.548 billion (PPP) Rank in the world-----21st position GDP per capita----$2,758(nominal) $6,184(PPP) GDP by sector-----Agriculture---17.5% Industry----25.7% Services---54.6% Poverty line-------33% Exports------petroleum,petroleum products,vehicles,aircraft parts,vessels,vegetables,processed foods,beverages,spices,cashews nuts,processed leather,cocoa tobacco aluminum alloy. KENYA GDP--------$65.899 billion (nominal) $145.6 billion (PPP) Rank in the world-----72nd GDP per capita-----$1,587(nominal) $3,304(PPP) GDP by sector------Agriculture--24.2% Industry--14.8% Services--62.5% Poverty line 42% Exports--small scale consumer goods (plastics furniture batteries textiles soap cigarettes floor mills agricultural and horticultural products oil refining aluminum steel lead cement ship repair and tourism Sources---CIA WORLD FACT BOOK Check it out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-kenya.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-nigeria.html EDUCATION Of the 200 best universities in Africa 16 Nigeria universities ranked when only 5 ranked in Kenya Check it out http://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/html Bottom line a university in Nigeria came before any other universities in Kenya,that not even the point for a country that claimed to be better having such low number compared to the country it claims to be than is just unacceptable MILITARY POWER Nigeria military are far stronger than that of Kenya Check this to prove http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa-asp And this http://answersafrica.com/7-african-countries-with-highest-military-strength.html/5 TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT Nigeria is more technologically advanced I don't just claim,am factual in my claims Check this out http://www.siliconafrica.com/top-10-countries-in-africa-regarding-technology/html ICT ADVANCEMENT Owwwww Nigeria rocks everything Check it http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/10/africa-10-most-connected-countries.html BEST CITIES Cities matter can only be comprehend by folks with open mind,some cities may be good than the other in some aspects in SA Cape Town is the most beautiful city but johhanesburg will always be the best city in SA,here in Nigeria Abuja is beautiful than Lagos,but Lagos remain the city in Nigeria it can offer anything a city offer,Lagos is not really beautiful Nairobi maybe ahead but Abuja is also more beautiful than Nairobi,but Lagos is better than any of those cities Lagos is the second second best city in Africa following johhanesburg, http://answersafrica.com/london-greatest-worlds-best-city.html Abuja is second to Cape Town when it comes to beauty http://Constantine.com/people/lifestyle/10-most-beautiful-and-most-developed-cities-in-africa HOUSING AND BUSINESS ESTATES VALUE Lagos is the most expensive city in Africa https://techpoint.ng/2016/08/09/lagos-launch-startup/ ELECTRICITY Nigeria is 4th largest electricity producer in Africa following SA Egypt and Libya http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=79&l=en SLUMS AND SHANTYTOWN One would easily assume Nigeria the most populous country in Africa should have the largest slum but only to notice Kenya dominating in this regard,not just having the largest but the most numerous check it out www.africanranking.com/20-worst-slums-in-africa/html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List-of-slums The datum that Kenya is ahead Nigeria in all aspect is indeed a pseudo 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:58am On Dec 14, 2016 |
gallivant: Just like I said, I don't expect you to know architecture that is appealing. Am very sure these are owned by foreigners too, cos your people either live in slums in the city or they live on trees in the village. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:05am On Dec 14, 2016 |
gallivant: You are a Foool. Because someone published it in paper means it was actually done right? Am talking of credible sources here not unverifiable claims. We all know your government is trying everything possible to cover the population up. Almost 1million of the 3 million people in Nairobi live in slums. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:06am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: Sure thing. more slum dwelling in Nairobi. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:10am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: Out of my three sources only one was government, Try harder sha. We all know your government is trying everything possible to cover the population up. Almost 1million of the 3 million people in Nairobi live in slums. On the contrary, the Kenyan Government would love a bigger population. Big population equates to a bigger tax base and more revenue for development. It's obviously the opposite in Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:23am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Henrydone:Kenyans are like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:27am On Dec 14, 2016 |
ABUJA
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 7:29am On Dec 14, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Ouch Tell em' |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:30am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: So you trust someone who gives a figure ranging from 350k to 1M (deviation of 650k) over someone who gives the exact figure? The UN-HABITAT could have chosen Ibadan if bad housing was their reason to set shop in Nairobi. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:38am On Dec 14, 2016 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 7:38am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Ednite:Now you're talking nonsense, who's lazy to work? Are you saying the biggest middle class in SA is lazy to work? if 80 percent of the population is lazy to work, then who's pushing the economy to be where it's at? You Nigerians overrate ypourselves wayyyy too much. Your brothers are busy standing on pavements in groups of 15 in Hillbrow doing absolutely nothing and you come here telling us about laziness? If you're so industrious then why is your country the shhthole. It is? Please do your research 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:40am On Dec 14, 2016 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:40am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: The houses are owned by an African Company known as Othaya Group. That's real architecture, not the tacky monstrosities you people post here. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 7:40am On Dec 14, 2016 |
gallivant:was about to say. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:46am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Henrydone:Owww owwww we lead them in every positive things,thanks for those links but those slum a cubbyhole Kenya is too numerous ooo LAGOS
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:50am On Dec 14, 2016 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:52am On Dec 14, 2016 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:56am On Dec 14, 2016 |
NairobiWalker: its okay, sorry for all that LuSudAfricaine and gallivant, an not a Nigerian but Ethiopian. And anybody planning to quote my statement in the future, am not a Nigerian. AM NOT A NIGERIAN 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 7:57am On Dec 14, 2016 |
AKURE MY HOME TOWN
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:57am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Oxtonguy:Same pictures a million times then you'll talk of having proved something to Kenyans. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 7:59am On Dec 14, 2016 |
68816419:It might be big but has anything changed for you? Or you just excited thats it's big. You are more concerned with status than substance, that's why even countries like Botswana are doing better than you, with your "big" economy South Africa owned South Africa (pan Africans) Which major sports? You must be deluded, when it comes to sports Nigeria is not our peer Correction: you do not have the second best movie industry. It's the third biggest in sheer volume. You guys produce 5O movies a day and all of them shhty. South Africa has movies with Oscars and many are screened on international movie festivals, clearly you might be big but we arte the best 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:59am On Dec 14, 2016 |
gallivant: Now Kenya see this Kibera Facts & Information There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world. Land Ownership The Government owns all the land. 10% of people are shack owners and many of these people own many other shacks and let them out to tenants. The remaining 90% of residents are tenants with no rights. Housing The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor. The population The original settlers were the Nubian people from the Kenyan/Sudanese border – they now occupy about 15% of Kibera, are mostly Muslim and are also mostly shack owners. The other shack owners are mostly Kikuyu (the majority tribe in Nairobi) – although in most cases they do not live there but are absentee landlords. The majority of the tenants are Luo, Luhya and some Kamba – these people are from the west of Kenya. There are many tensions in Kibera, particularly tribal tensions between the Luo & Kikuyu, but also between landlord and tenant and those with and without jobs. Electricity Only about 20% of Kibera has electricity. UN-Habitat is in the process of providing it to some parts of Kibera – this will include street lighting, security lighting and connection to shacks (this costs KES 900 per shack, which in most cases is not affordable). Water Until recently Kibera had no water and it had to be collected from the Nairobi dam. The dam water is not clean and causes typhoid and cholera. Now there are two mains water pipes into Kibera, one from the municipal council and one from the World Bank. Residents collect water at KES 3 per 20 litres. Sewage In most of Kibera there are no toilet facilities. One latrine (hole in the ground) is shared by up to 50 shacks. Once full, young boys are employed to empty the latrine and they take the contents to the river. UN-Habitat and a few other agencies are trying to help and improve this situation but it is painfully slow. Medical facilities and HIV/AIDS Clinics In Kibera there are no government clinics or hospitals. The providers are the charitable organisations: AMREF, MSF, churches plus some others. They do a great job. All people are encouraged to have a free HIV test and if positive to take free generic ARV medicine. Changaa This is cheap alcoholic brew. It is widely available, very strong (over 50% alcohol) and made incorrectly, so is usually very high in Methanol. The cost is only KES 10 per glass and after a couple of glasses people become very drunk. With over 50% unemployment in Kibera many start drinking early in the morning leading to problems of violence, crime, rapes etc. Several charities are trying to help by showing the Changaa makers how to make the drink less dangerous. Drugs Cheap drugs and glue sniffing are an increasing problem. Initially taken to alleviate boredom but then people find themselves hooked. A big challenge to the charities! Abortion Due to many men still not using condoms and the availability of Changaa, many girls become pregnant, at any one time about 50% of 16 to 25 yr old girls are pregnant. Most of these pregnancies are unwanted, resulting in many cases of abortion. This can be very dangerous, particularly in such a poor area as Kibera. Many charities are working on this problem. Unemployment Kibera is near the industrial area of Nairobi where up to 50% of the available workforce are employed (usually in fairly unskilled jobs). However, there is still an unemployment rate of 50%. This is why the training and teaching of skills is very important. Sport Most young people in Kibera have nothing to do, obviously it is better for them to have the opportunity to take part in sport and several organisations are working on this. Nairobi Slum Survey The African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC) produced a report which provides many different statistics relating to the slums of Nairobi, including facts about Kibera. You can download the 212 page here: * ‘Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey‘ SUMMARY FINDINGS Kibera needs land/tenancy rights, housing, water, electricity, health clinics, education, employment, security plus much more. All these issues are being addressed to a lesser or greater extent by many organizations including the Churches, UN-Habitat, MSF and AMREF etc. Money is finding its way through from many international organizations including Gates Foundation, Bill Clinton Foundation, all the well known charities and of course the churches both in Africa and internationally. However, money cannot help without people to direct it – all the organizations require assistance. They all need intelligent, keen, willing, and compassionate people to help. In the western world it has become common for many students to take a Gap Year out before or after university. More mature people are also now taking a year out, away from their everyday life. Many could work in Kibera where they would achieve a real sense of doing some good. Kibera is crying out for people to help. Citation * African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC). 2014. Population and Health Dynamics in Nairobi’s Informal Settlements: Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey. (NCSS) 2012. Nairobi: APHRC. http://www.kibera.org.uk/facts-info/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 8:02am On Dec 14, 2016 |
NairobiWalker: Your problem is not kibera alone. You have almost 200 slums in Nairobi alone. Kibera Facts & Information There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:03am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: I guess FAO was located in Rome because Rome has too many starving people too. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 8:04am On Dec 14, 2016 |
UYO THE CITY I RESIDE
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:05am On Dec 14, 2016 |
LeSudAfricaine: Perfect - These guys are more concerned with STATUS rather than SUBSTANCE. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 8:05am On Dec 14, 2016 |
gallivant: Kibera Facts & Information There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Oxtonguy: 8:06am On Dec 14, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:Enough have been proven Henrydone: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:06am On Dec 14, 2016 |
iblawi: You have over 10,000 slums in Nigeria |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:16am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Meanwhile in Kenya even the poorest have access to electricity.... while my Nigerian "brodas" are choking on diesel generator fumes. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 8:18am On Dec 14, 2016 |
NairobiWalker:I always say their economy is like a Fiat with a Ferrari emblem, totally on paper. I'd rather boast after it has created proper lving conditions for the people, good roads, better medical facilities, etc. 2 Likes |
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