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Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:16am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1 and the others pls stop derailing this thread. This thread is not about Atheism 1 Like |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:17am On Dec 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:You believe a mutation can lead to a loss if ''information''/''gene'' but not a ''gain''...is that logical? On your fitness claim... This article deals with it plainly [b]Even a variation of traits is a production of Novelty.. Why? Because there was no variation before... here are researches in which Mutations led to an increase in Genes/information... increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998 Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003) novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996) and here's your proof of mutation leading to Novel Information in proteins. Proteins in the histidine biosynthesis pathway consist of beta/alpha barrels with a twofold repeat pattern. These apparently evolved from the duplication and fusion of genes from a half-barrel ancestor (Lang et al. 2000). |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:22am On Dec 14, 2016 |
damogul:my opinions? I cited a lot of documents there sire... Not entirely my opinion..but the opinion of well informed scientists... But nevertheless..your claims are baseless... KingEbukasBlog:what delusion are you talking about? Delusion is when you stylishly input evolution as ''progressive creationism'' the Op is baseless...uninformed and with wrong understandings of various things.. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:26am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella: So if the well informed scientists have declared their opinion first before yours then your opinion is what it is ...your opinion! And it does not in any way refute the Opinion of those well informed scientists whom you already hailed.] Your opinion is painfully baseless. I am sure if it was your article it would be extremely acceptable right? |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrPresident1: 10:26am On Dec 14, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: I cannot help you. You are on lock down from the atheist spirit from the LORD. Byebye |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrPresident1: 10:27am On Dec 14, 2016 |
damogul: I am replying mentions only |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:28am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella: Logical fallacy , argumentum ad lapidem , dismissing an argument as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity . 1.Where is the proof the OP is baseless 2.Where is the proof the OP is uninformed 3.Show the OP that he has wrong understanding of various things 1 Like |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:28am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1: I know but please stop. Its causing a ripple effect. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:29am On Dec 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: That is what a rebuttal should look like and not "some" opinion off the top of his head. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 10:29am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella:Don't mind him. I think he is aware of this particular delusion. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by hopefulLandlord: 10:30am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1: copout just as expected just that you should've done that long before now rather than engaging me and getting exposed then using this to save the little face you have left 1 Like |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:31am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Seun i cannot count the number of times you have banned me at the drop of a hat with the excuse that i made comments not related to the OP. Which is Rule 1. Seun Seun Seun! |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 10:32am On Dec 14, 2016 |
BTW 4evergod you've not answered my question. Is Progressive Creationism to be considered a "Valid Theory", why or why not? Damogul you can help him out. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:33am On Dec 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:check your mentions... I know you love listing out logical fallacies to appear smart.. Even though you're a well known commiter of fallacies... |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 10:36am On Dec 14, 2016 |
4kings: 4everGod can answer his own questions but i will tell you this. Intelligent Design aka progressive creationism is not a theory. Those who see it as one do so myopically. I see it as truth. There are always 2 sides to an opinion and mine is declared above. Perhaps i would have a thread deal with the truth about intelligent design later then we can do a comparison alright? This is not a thread for that. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrPresident1: 10:36am On Dec 14, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Enjoy until your time comes |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:38am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella: Please address those 3 I mentioned . The only mention I had from you was the animal's spirits argument . That's all . You never addressed the OP . I know you love listing out logical fallacies to appear smart.Even though you're a well known commiter of fallacies.... You are the one who loves listing out logical fallacies to appear smart . Anytime I list a logical fallacy , I prove the statement is one . But you just scream reductio ad absurdum and when you are asked to prove it , you run away like a coward 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:38am On Dec 14, 2016 |
ambassagod:relax dude... Was booking space... |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by Blitzerz: 10:41am On Dec 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Hahahahaha. Lol |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:42am On Dec 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: maybe the author of your article forgot the part where ''mutation'' made this possible.. And two... on the ''promoter'' You need to understand a ''term'' before using it vaguely.. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by 4kings: 10:43am On Dec 14, 2016 |
damogul:OK I'll really love that thread. |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:44am On Dec 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: www.nairaland.com/3511938/demystifying-evolution-exposing-it-fraud/28#51897412 And posts below it seems you love making ''noise'' well can you now keep quiet? And stop being a logical fallacy promoter |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:50am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Blitzerz: The guy wants to form Zeno of Elea , a Greek philosopher who always rubbishes people's arguments by revealing contradictions through reductio ad absurdum . But MrMontella does not know how to refute arguments through reductio ad absurdum , he just mentions it to appear smart . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:52am On Dec 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:i dont know where you get your facts from but addition of genes to a chromosome has been confirmed by researches to exist through mutations.. Genome size can increase by duplication, insertion, or polyploidization. Recombination can lead to both DNA loss or gain. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome_evolution#Genome_size https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3076554/ Detailing insertion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation#Classification_of_mutation_types [b][url=www.sci.sdsu.edu/~smaloy/MicrobialGenetics/topics/mutations/deletions.html]here's how insertions works[/url] |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 10:58am On Dec 14, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:the bolded is highly wrong and a misunderstanding of the experiment itself... I'd advise you read the article published by the researchers themselves to see how wrong you are and how information was accumulated over generations with mutations [url=myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/citrate2008/index.html]researchers article[/url] I dont understand what you mean by information ''cant'' be added.. See..if this --- ATGCATGCGTA is a genome sequence... And GTA is a stop codon... If during replication...a mutation occurs on the stop codon and the stop codon is not intolerant to mutation... E.g ATGCATGC''GTA''--replicates to ATGCATGC''GCA''...The mutation is GTA to GCA...if GCA happens to be a viable amino acid...the new genome sequence would be a different allele which means new information has been added.. Or has it not? Read up :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frameshift_mutation on the molecule to man... Speciation has been observed.... Atavism and vestigial organs are proof of some form of common ancestors.. All these baseless claims sef 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 11:04am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella: Can you list out these vestigial organs? |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by MrMontella(m): 11:18am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 11:24am On Dec 14, 2016 |
MrMontella: Did you know that in the 1900s there were about 180 assumed vestigial organs before the number began being trimmed down when they discovered their functions? Now we have just 5 and even those 5 are still being trimmed down because the Appendix and the coccyx are almost as good as out of that list of 5. There is no absolute empirical data backing up atavism...merely assumptions and speculations. If the evolutionary link between mans ancestors and man are still speculative then where did the fact that the tail bone being a vestigial organ come from? Can you show me this empirical truthful link data? cc seun 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 11:34am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Vestigial means An organ that is functionless and generally reduced in size but bears some resemblance to the corresponding fully functioning organs found in related organisms. Since the jaw bones of mans alleged ancestors are said to be bigger than ours today shouldnt we say our jaw is a vestigial organ since it is smaller? Since the nostril of mans alleged ancestor is described as being bigger and ours smaller shouldnt our nose bones be seen as vestigial organs as well since they are smaller? Your talk about vestigial organs is an assumption same way they had an assumption with 180 allegedly vestigial organs in the 1900s but today that is almost squashed. Are assumptions fact? |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 11:38am On Dec 14, 2016 |
Atavism and evolution have similar issues. They have not been proven as truth up to modern man. They only talk about e-coli but no other thing in truth. But someone somewhere is bent on pushing these assumptions across as FACT when they are just still assumptions....WHY? |
Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 11:40am On Dec 14, 2016 |
You cannot look at a whale and simply because of some certain external similarities in some bones you suddenly jump ahead and claim he is mans ancestor without any proof to that effect besides artistic diagrams based on your imagination. Are assumptions truth? |
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