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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Pastafarian: 2:02pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
don't forget you are also angry
"in fact I didn't know in was angry.Christians say that since I am an atheist therefore I am always angry so I must be. If they say I'm angry I must be angry whether I am angry or not. In fact if the christians say I am angry I don't even have the right to not be angry because they say I am angry"

HopefulLandlord
grin

Na so Bros

their antispambot don do him thing, I don't know what I did wrong asides exposing the uselessness of the help offered by our so called "hel.per"
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:03pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol it's quite easy to get a job with it nowadays
It's like the trending language
You should learn others too though
Computer science is cool cool
But over the years it has been filled with stupid stereotypes by other butthurt professions that don't make half as much money angry
Computer scientists are
Hermits
Play video games a lot
Can't get into a relationship
pimply neck-bearded nerds living in a basement somewhere with at least four computer monitors
Lol bullshit

You do realise that people can still learn programming languages without studying the program - Computer Science . Look at seun and 4kings now

Its so annoying angry And they can even be certified sef .

Basically anything can be learnt without studying the program

-Computer Networking
-Network Security
-Database
-Web Design
-App Development
- AI

And so many others .

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:14pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


I have heard that nonsense too many times i cannot even count. Its like they all go to the same school and get dropped on their head while there and rationality sucked out.

How can anyone be asking such questions yet claim intelligence. How can one be asking such questions yet claim to be rational and honest with himself and not even to others.

Nna men these guys deserve an award of some sort...something to encourage their rubbish.

Another one is the Epicurian paradox . I mean the refutations are right there , it has been for ages . But you see them repeating the same thing. AGAIN and AGAIN angry

If they are so smart like they claim , why haven't they given answers to these paradoxes themselves - another proof they just purport themselves as smart people .

Even people who developed those paradoxes attacking God are not smart grin

Intelligence and atheism are mutually incompatible

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Deicide: 2:22pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:

Can't get into a relationship
Common this Is not True My Computer is My one and only tongue
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Ranchhoddas: 2:22pm On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


this is nonsense that's been spilled so many times that you've started believing it

Communism is not atheism!

China has been a communist state for over 67 years and they're growing better than most non communist states

we also have atheist president like José Alberto "Pepe" Mujica Cordanohas been described as "the world's 'humblest' president" due to his austere lifestyle and his donation of around 90 percent of his $12,000 monthly salary to charities that benefit poor people and small entrepreneurs. he lived in a bungalow throughout his reign, drove one single Volkswagen tortoise car

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I dare you to bring up any theist president that's ever been as humble as him let alone more humble

can you get me the number of killings Jose Mujica ordered



you also have socialist country like Venezuela whose population is 91% religious
when would they start killing?

even some former presidents of the USA are regarded to be atheists The likes of Thomas Jefferson , Abraham Lincoln, William Howard Taft, and Donald Trump are regarded by many to be atheist 2 of them are regarded to be the best president USA ever had

Vietnam has been a communist state for over 40 (forty) years but still has 99% of the population professing one religion or the other
why are they not killing all religious people? when would the killing start?

we also have open atheists that are doing good for the environment they're in



you have atheists participating in national politics, there are many good and few bad eggs amongst them, just like we have in theism



most atheists usually ignore your atheist/communist/annihilation/bigotry and other nonsensical hullabaloo not because they think you're right but because they can see you desperately think you're right and that seems to be the only card you have left against atheism, taking that card away can drive you to suicide

then again, anyone having doubts about theism won't look at killings of atheists and say "oh! I'm gonna go on murderous rampage if I dump my religious delusion! I'd better stay so I don't become a killer!!" can't you see your desperation shines through? you're so desperate that you've lost your reasons

keep up your delusion if it helps your fart smell good

I won't reply if you quote this

good day
You are wasting your time my friend because he will still repeat it on another thread. It's like pouring water into a basket.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:23pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Another one is the Epicurian paradox . I mean the refutations are right there , it has been for ages . But you see them repeating the same thing. AGAIN and AGAIN angry

If they are so smart like they claim , why haven't they given answers to these paradoxes themselves - another proof they just purport themselves as smart people .

Even people who developed those paradoxes attacking God are not smart grin

Intelligence and atheism are mutually incompatible


grin grin High Chief salute to you Nwokem

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by jonbellion(m): 2:23pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You do realise that people can still learn programming languages without studying the program - Computer Science . Look at seun and 4kings now

Its so annoying angry And they can even be certified sef .

Basically anything can be learnt without studying the program

-Computer Networking
-Network Security
-Database
-Web Design
-App Development
- AI

And so many others .
lol
Asin
Even the people that have made groundbreaking achievements in IT in recent years didn't finish thier degrees
From Larry Ellison to Bill Gates
When Steve ballmer former Microsoft CEO who has a degree still came back to work for his company angry
4kings writes code too?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by jonbellion(m): 2:25pm On Dec 16, 2016
Deicide:

Common this Is not True My Computer is My one and only tongue
hehe
That one Na you oo lipsrsealed
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:25pm On Dec 16, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
You are wasting your time my friend because he will still repeat it on another thread. It's like pouring water into a basket.

You seem not to get the whole gist.

If its Bad its Gods fault..if its good then it has nothing to do with God.

If its Communism then atheism is the animus but if one atheist is good then that atheist represents all atheists.

Do you get it now?

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Ranchhoddas: 2:32pm On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


I never even knew he was atheist until JackBizzle said it, I'd already known José long before then though
Me too.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by jonbellion(m): 2:32pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


You seem not to get the whole gist.

If its Bad its Gods fault..if its good then it has nothing to do with God.

If its Communism then atheism is the animus but if one atheist is good then that atheist represents all atheists.

Do you get it now?
lol
The argument will just be an inverse from the athiests point of view
Atheism vs theism
When will it end
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Ranchhoddas: 2:35pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


You seem not to get the whole gist.

If its Bad its Gods fault..if its good then it has nothing to do with God.

If its Communism then atheism is the animus but if one atheist is good then that atheist represents all atheists.

Do you get it now?
lol. I get it.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:35pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol
The argument will just be an inverse from the athiests point of view
Atheism vs theism
When will it end

End? Did it even start? We are simply having fun and using this as a distraction from the stress of the day. There has never been an argument and never will.

What you are insinuating is like a re-enactment of SPARTA. Going into battle with 300men against hundreds of thousands. But in this case its against Billions.

Go figure!

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by rejosom(m): 2:38pm On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


Which sense of humanity does atheism have?

When even some atheists here on NL believe life is meaningless?
When they believe morality is subjective?

Have u not read such posts before?

Abeg save us a call the humanity talk.

Methinks christians believe life is meaningless too.

Back then in church we used to sing .... this might be the last time that we shall meet again, we live today and tomorrow we die, what is is the meaning of life?

And then we have Ecc 1: 2/14 "Vanity upon vanity..."

"Be careful for nothing... "says Jesus. IOW you can be careless for everything, what does it matter?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Nobody: 2:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


U dont know what contradiction means, obviously.

So how can you love some and kill them at the same time :/
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


You seem not to get the whole gist.

If its Bad its Gods fault..if its good then it has nothing to do with God.

If its Communism then atheism is the animus but if one atheist is good then that atheist represents all atheists.

Do you get it now?

they keep twisting , turning .

I was peeved at that response because that President Jose was not even a communist , he was some atheist (arguably ) who became president after communism ended in his country . It was a blatant red herring so people would jump into false conclusions .

He also started asking how many killings did President Jose order undecided . When the guy was not even a communist leader undecided

That hopefullanlord guy is very deceptive and dishonest .
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:41pm On Dec 16, 2016
rejosom:


Methinks christians believe life is meaningless too.

Back then in church we used to sing .... this might be the last time that we shall meet again, we live today and tomorrow we die, what is is the meaning of life?

And then we have Ecc 1: 2/14 "Vanity upon vanity..."

"Be careful for nothing... "says Jesus. IOW you can be careless for everything, what does it matter?

The bolded means "DO NOT WORRY OR DO NOT DESPAIR"

The song simply lets you know that you are in the world but not of the world so do not get too attached to it. Play your part by adding value to everything and everyone for the sake of your final destination.

Solomons comment about vanity upon vanity is a warning against greed and selfishness.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by orunto27: 2:42pm On Dec 16, 2016
May The Supreme Spirit open your eyes to perceive Eternity a little bit. IJN AMEN!
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:42pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol
Asin
Even the people that have made groundbreaking achievements in IT in recent years didn't finish thier degrees
From Larry Ellison to Bill Gates
When Steve ballmer former Microsoft CEO who has a degree still came back to work for his company angry
4kings writes code too?

Yup . He does .
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:43pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


they keep twisting , turning .

I was peeved at that response because that President Jose was not even a communist , he was some atheist (arguably ) who became president after communism ended in his country . It was a blatant red herring so people would jump into false conclusions .

He started how many killings did President Jose order undecided . When the guy was not even a communist leader undecided

That ******* guy is very deceptive and dishonest .

We actually have a mutual understanding not to quote each other so permit me to delete his mention from this quote.

That is why i didnt bother to offer a rebuttal.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by rejosom(m): 2:44pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


The bolded means "DO NOT WORRY OR DO NOT DESPAIR"

The song simply lets you know that you are in the world but not of the world so do not get too attached to it. Play your part by adding value to everything and everyone for the sake of your final destination.

Solomons comment about vanity upon vanity is a warning against greed and selfishness.

It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.

Solo said "Everything is vanity"
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:44pm On Dec 16, 2016
rejosom:


It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.

Solo said "Everything is vanity"


I do not think you know what you are talking about.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by jonbellion(m): 2:45pm On Dec 16, 2016
orunto27:
May The Supreme Spirit open your eyes to perceive Eternity a little bit. IJN AMEN!
huh??
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Nobody: 2:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


CeoMYN is an atheist whom i offered help.

Mistergrace was an atheist i offered help

Grizzlybear was an atheist i offered help

etc


As a humanist how many theists have you offered help here on NL?

cc Deicide aka eyehategod aka fsms aka NinjaX aka pastafarians

Which kind help you offer me?

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:47pm On Dec 16, 2016
rejosom:


It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.

Solo said "Everything is vanity"

Balance solomons comment with LOVE NOT THE WORLD, NEITHER THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD FOR THOSE THAT LOVE THE WORLD DO NOT LOVE GOD.

Its still talking about greed and selfishness. THE WORLD means the content, the goods, the wealth for THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..

However we have been commanded to love men and humanity as those are the truly valuable ones which was why the bible says WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by rejosom(m): 2:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:



I do not think you know what you are talking about.

Someone made that same statement and it is being blown out of proportion, and here you are trying to explain to me what "Everything is vanity means".

I am not an atheist, but sometimes we castigate others for the same thing we do.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
CeoMYN:


Which kind help you offer me?

On your thread where you were lamenting your life and family. Did you ask me for help before i extended one to you?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Deicide: 2:49pm On Dec 16, 2016
CeoMYN:


Which kind help you offer me?
LWKMD

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:51pm On Dec 16, 2016
CeoMYN:


Which kind help you offer me?



CeoMYN:


I just need to be in a sane environment, I dnt dread or detest you. I'm angry at myself, true am lonely. But atheism didn't cause that.


damogul: 7:14pm On Nov 22

I deliberately put "dread" there as i knew that would get your attention and it did

Listen...We create our world and unmake them. You cannot have a sane environment without first wanting to be sane yourself. Its like taking a wild animal into an organized house and setting it free...You can imagine the chaos..However when you make a conscious effort to first train and condition the animal to the environment then it would help keep it sane.

You need to first organise yourself internally which was why i said what i said in my first comment. I am offering friendship. At least let me see if i can help bring some sanity into your environment. A listening ear, an idea sharer etc

Being angry at yourself is normal and you are not the first who has been but making a choice to do something about it is the crux of the matter.

Can we be friends?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Nobody: 2:52pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


On your thread where you were lamenting your life and family. Did you ask me for help before i extended one to you?

I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies.
I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:53pm On Dec 16, 2016
CeoMYN:


I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies.
I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me.


CeoMYN:

I tried organising myself but the environment is not sane.

damogul: 7:44pm On Nov 22
Listen kid it would be too easy to ask you to unburden your heart or to ask you to share what your views are that people do not share with you ....but that would not be the solution. Just listening to you without fixing the deeper problem would not make the surface problem go away. So i will not ask you to tell me what the real issues are here but would rather opt to make it a bit more personal....yeah thats how nice i can be.

Can we take this out of this place? I have an identity i never hide as i see no reason for that so do not pretend. I would understand if you refused to take this talk out of this place but hey what have you got to loose?

This thread has got 68 views already and of these 68 people who have viewed i seem to be the only one genuinely offering transparent friendship and help.


Wanna give it a shot?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by rejosom(m): 2:53pm On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


Balance solomons comment with LOVE NOT THE WORLD, NEITHER THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD FOR THOSE THAT LOVE THE WORLD DO NOT LOVE GOD.

Its still talking about greed and selfishness. THE WORLD means the content, the goods, the wealth for THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..

However we have been commanded to love men and humanity as those are the truly valuable ones which was why the bible says WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.

Sir,

we are saying the same thing if you hate the world and everything in it, you hate life. That is the purposelessness of life.

WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.
Meaning... it shall profit a man a whole lot if he looses (better decides to loose) the whole world to gain his soul. Life in the world is useless and not to be cherished even you confirms it.

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