damogul:







damogul: 7:14pm On Nov 22

I deliberately put "dread" there as i knew that would get your attention and it did

Listen...We create our world and unmake them. You cannot have a sane environment without first wanting to be sane yourself. Its like taking a wild animal into an organized house and setting it free...You can imagine the chaos..However when you make a conscious effort to first train and condition the animal to the environment then it would help keep it sane.

You need to first organise yourself internally which was why i said what i said in my first comment. I am offering friendship. At least let me see if i can help bring some sanity into your environment. A listening ear, an idea sharer etc

Being angry at yourself is normal and you are not the first who has been but making a choice to do something about it is the crux of the matter.

Can we be friends?

damogul:





damogul: 7:44pm On Nov 22
Listen kid it would be too easy to ask you to unburden your heart or to ask you to share what your views are that people do not share with you ....but that would not be the solution. Just listening to you without fixing the deeper problem would not make the surface problem go away. So i will not ask you to tell me what the real issues are here but would rather opt to make it a bit more personal....yeah thats how nice i can be.

Can we take this out of this place? I have an identity i never hide as i see no reason for that so do not pretend. I would understand if you refused to take this talk out of this place but hey what have you got to loose?

This thread has got 68 views already and of these 68 people who have viewed i seem to be the only one genuinely offering transparent friendship and help.

Wanna give it a shot?

CeoMYN:

I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies.
I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me.

CeoMYN:

The real thing is that my environment, my town is insane.
Not only socially.
I don't really know how to put them, I just got contrasting views with people. They are still in the old ways.
My head isn't clear right now.
The main thing I stand for is doing the right thing but the orientation is bad in this part of the country.
Let me just give you examples of those contrasting views.
1. Cultists were killing people freely in my town. Everyone was like the government should grant them amnesty, but I wanted the army to crush them so that those boys will stop carrying their shoulders high.
2. I believe in the military way of doing the right thing. Making sure it's done even by force but here they don't care if you are behaving bad until it affects them.
3. My town is filled with people who have been bought by the lies of the our stupid reps, but I wish they could gain sense.

All these I'm afraid to tell because I fear for my life. It's point and kill over here.

4. I'm wish we can work together and make our town a better place but everyone is selfish.

Atheism just made it worse, you know why?
It's because of my parents they are strict and very religious of lately, my elder bro and sis too. They are going to change their views about me.

damogul:





damogul: 8:01pm On Nov 22
Ok so you are most likely in Rivers State. Like i said, what tangible help could be given to you via a faceless online forum? If indeed you are in Rivers State then its easy to help lift this burden off you. Buts its up to you though. I definitely wouldnt want to force myself or my helping hand on you.

Do you know why i said if you were in Rivers state then its easy to help you? Its because my inlaws are there and same way i have linked some Nairalanders who are from PH to them is same way i wanted to link you to them. You thought i was all about Jesus

CeoMYN:



I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies.
I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me.

damogul:


Did you read the part in red?

rejosom:


It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.

Solo said "Everything is vanity"

CeoMYN:


Yes I did.

LightandDarkness:


So how can you love some and kill them at the same time :/

KingEbukasBlog:


That is not what that verse means .

It means that life without God has no purpose or meaning .

Because if you look at subsequent verses the preacher attempted finding meaning to life through discovery , wisdom , alcohol , different philosophies , architecture , luxurious life , personal pleasure , unbridled lusts , riches and glory etc .

Then he now came to Ecclesiastes 12:13 and said “Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.”

It just epitomizes the true meaning of life as a human . Without God life is meaningless - your toil , suffering , riches , discoveries , they do not make any sense if you perish after God's judgement .

And this is from the wisest man known in History - Solomon had written over 3000 Proverbs .

damogul:


And you still feel i was offering Jesus without trying to find out first? Theism is not all about Jesus you know.We live, we assist, we connect people to productivity, we counsel outside Christ as well.

rejosom:


Methinks christians believe life is meaningless too.

Back then in church we used to sing .... this might be the last time that we shall meet again, we live today and tomorrow we die, what is is the meaning of life?

And then we have Ecc 1: 2/14 "Vanity upon vanity..."

"Be careful for nothing... "says Jesus. IOW you can be careless for everything, what does it matter?

jonbellion:
lol
The argument will just be an inverse from the athiests point of view
Atheism vs theism
When will it end

Ranchhoddas:
You are wasting your time my friend because he will still repeat it on another thread. It's like pouring water into a basket.

Deicide:

LWKMD

CeoMYN:

In the end it will be, give Jesus a try.

CeoMYN:


In the end it will be, give Jesus a try.

felixomor:


Please which church did u pple used to sing "you will die tomorrow"?

Whats the name of the church?

And its making life all about gathering Riches thats vanity, not life itself.

KingEbukasBlog:


Theists can do without atheists . Atheists need theists for relevance . If everyone stops paying attention to atheists , they'd just die out . But theists can still commune among themselves without care of what atheists think .

Haven't you noticed that all what atheists here do is criticize criticize criticize , attacking God and people who believe in God ? Is there any relevance they have

rejosom:


Thanks so much Mr. Ebuka.

So, it means that one who lives without God has a purposeless life but one who lives with God a purposeful life. And this purpose according to you is simply to "Fear God and Keep His commandments" What a purpose! A man with God who has a purpose therefore should neither work nor labour for all he needs will be provided to him by God through the sweat of those who live without God William James Sidis...Then everything is meaningless. So what are we saying?

rejosom:


What is the problem here.... the song or the church?

felixomor:


Both
Everything.

felixomor:


They have no relevance.

felixomor:
Ehen.

Some people have switched to their next monikers onside the same thread again.

Population Delusion.

rejosom:


Ok. How can I solve your problem by singing the song or telling you the name of the church?

KingEbukasBlog:


I noticed that too . Trust me there are only 5 people here .

KingEbukasBlog:


It simply means in all that you do , fear God and keep his commandments .

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a person may labor with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then they must leave all they own to another who has not toiled for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What do people get for all the toil and anxious striving with which they labor under the sun? 23 All their days their work is grief and pain; even at night their minds do not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

damogul:


Your assumption. My inlaws are actually politically influential in PH as a royal family from Bonny so if you had some issues with your environment they are good listening ears and you never know... anything could happen

felixomor:


U will only add to the problem.

because ur "church" is looking like a Fairytale. If u cant tell me its name.

rejosom:


Sir

Read this passage and give it this your conclusion above.



This too is meanigless... what does this too here refer to?

rejosom:


Meaning, your problem can't be solved.