4kings:

Which kain wahala be this one.
Where did "argument from ignorance" come from

KingEbukasBlog:


I should be asking you that question

damogul:


General observation

My comment was all encompassing nd not specific to you as my protege

4kings:

What about rejection of deities
(still in the same context)

KingEbukasBlog:


Millions of testimonies from people who have their lives turned around by God .



****And 32 percent of the world's population owing 55 percent of the global wealth and 56.4 percent of the millionaires are Christians .

You don't learn foladara777

randomperson:

You don't learn and when I raise points to which you don't have a response, you disappear into thin air
U are focusing on the Christians who have money and ignoring the fact that Christianity is the most widely practiced religion in the world
U also ignore the fact that the poorest countries are Christian dominated, in fact Christians make up the bulk of the population starving to death. . in Zambia for example, which BTW is about 95% Christianity and has Christianity as it's official religion, human beings, Christians are competing with monkeys and baboons for nuts in order not to starve to death. .. These are people told by their god not to worry that he will provide for them.

randomperson:

You don't learn and when I raise points to which you don't have a response, you disappear into thin air
U are focusing on the Christians who have money and ignoring the fact that Christianity is the most widely practiced religion in the world
U also ignore the fact that the poorest countries are Christian dominated, in fact Christians make up the bulk of the population starving to death. . in Zambia for example, which BTW is about 95% Christianity and has Christianity as it's official religion, human beings, Christians are competing with monkeys and baboons for nuts in order not to starve to death. .. These are people told by their god not to worry that he will provide for them.

KingEbukasBlog:


Christianity is a 'religion' of love . There are so many Christian organisations in poor countries helping these poor people - trying to provide respite to the adversity they face .

There are so many Christians who have pledged to help the poor through out their lives . That is what Christ preached .

Help the poor .
Don't let the rich oppress the poor
Those in prison visit them
Love even your enemies and do good to them who hate you

I read on DailyMail yesterday or so about kids who burned down a G -Wagon and flushed down a Rolex watch - total price is 88K pounds - while people can't find food to eat

If you have money to waste , why not give to charity and fund those Christian organizations in these poor countries . Christ commanded us to do these things .

KingEbukasBlog:


I mean if you look at it , its more rejection of personal gods . A typical atheist argument will always impugn the belief in a personal god .

That's why anytime they are on the precipice of getting anything bad , they claim there is no God . Its all emotions .

Pay close attention bro , the typical atheist belief resolves around religion and personal gods .

They attack faith , prayer , worship with the belief that this somehow impugns the existence of God . Very small minded folks .

They are repulsed by deism . Deism is too intellectual to stand against . Have you seen them outwit oga DeepSight before ? There is no religious belief to mock or ridicule or fall back to . Its strictly logic . Pure logic .

Even 'smart pants' like Teempakguy started floundering . I was aghast at the egregiousness of his reasoning that day

rejosom:


Christianity is 'not' a religion.

damogul:


He put Religion in brackets there for the sake of the discussion because the other side sees it as a religion

rejosom:


Christianity is 'not' a religion.

KingEbukasBlog:


I put religion in quotes there

KingEbukasBlog:


Christianity is a 'religion' of love . There are so many Christian organisations in poor countries helping these poor people - trying to provide respite to the adversity they face .

There are so many Christians who have pledged to help the poor through out their lives . That is what Christ preached .

Help the poor .
Don't let the rich oppress the poor
Those in prison visit them
Love even your enemies and do good to them who hate you

I read on DailyMail yesterday or so about kids who burned down a G -Wagon and flushed down a Rolex watch - total price is 88K pounds - while people can't find food to eat

If you have money to waste , why not give to charity and fund those Christian organizations in these poor countries . Christ commanded us to do these things .

KingEbukasBlog:


That is not what that verse means .

It means that life without God has no purpose or meaning .

Because if you look at subsequent verses the preacher attempted finding meaning to life through discovery , wisdom , alcohol , different philosophies , architecture , luxurious life , personal pleasure , unbridled lusts , riches and glory etc .

Then he now came to Ecclesiastes 12:13 and said “Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.”

It just epitomizes the true meaning of life as a human . Without God life is meaningless - your toil , suffering , riches , discoveries , they do not make any sense if you perish after God's judgement .

And this is from the wisest man known in History - Solomon had written over 3000 Proverbs .

4kings:
@KingEbukasBlog What about President José, is that why his stance is arguable?

4kings:
@KingEbukasBlog
What about President José, is that why his stance is arguable?

damogul:


Have you been to Zambia before?

KingEbukasBlog:


When you are in a communist country , you are expected to pledge allegiance to the Marxist-Leninist ideology as your nation's guiding principle - that means atheism is imposed . Belief in God is not tolerated especially in religion .

So President Jose who may have been born with that atheist idea since Uruguay has been with communism for a long time before it ended just before he became president .

I don't think he became an atheist from a personal choice , its more of his environment , his milieu that influenced him . The "God idea" in religion is not tolerated in communism . And there are communist parties that make being an atheist a prerequisite for becoming a member .

He may believe in God privately but appears to be an atheist or declares to be one because of the country or politics in the country or rejection of religion in which the belief in God has been mistaken to be an integral part .

That's why I said it is arguable .

You dig ?

randomperson:

No .. But I happen to read the news and as a person with a conscience, news that some people are starving to death is unforgettable for me

randomperson:

Argh! No, don't digress from the issues... Christ said he will provide for them but they are starving to death... Are Christians trying to give to charity? Of course, but so are atheists and irreligious people... Bill Gates who said he doesn't know if God exists has given over $28 billion to charity. Mark Zuckerberg has committed himself to funding medical research... Meanwhile, ur churches are busy building edifices ... My local church bought a keyboard of over 200,000 naira and that was five years ago
Don't bring your digressions, Christians are starving to death and your god would rather punish gay people

randomperson:
Bill Gates who said he doesn't know if God exists has given over $28 billion to charity

dalaman:


False. In REALITY many have found meaning and purpose in their lives without believing in any God or by believing in other Gods different from the Jewish version of God.



Many people do not believe in any God's judgment. And their lives have very good meaning to them. In your opinion and the opinion of those that subscribe to the idea of the Jewish God that has been laid out without God your life is meaningless but in reality it is different.



Solomon is not the wisest man known in history. In Jewish mythology he was the wisest man. In reality he wasn't. Solomon did not write the book of proverbs.

KingEbukasBlog:


Bill Gate is not an atheist . He is a Christian . I read somewhere that he is a devout Catholic now .

KingEbukasBlog:

He may believe in God privately but appears to be an atheist or declares to be one because of the country or politics in the country or rejection of religion in which the belief in God has been mistaken to be an integral part .
That's why I said it is arguable .
You dig ?

dalaman:

Solomon is not the wisest man known in history. In Jewish mythology he was the wisest man. In reality he wasn't. Solomon did not write the book of proverbs.

dalaman:


What is this nonsense. There are more theist than athiests in Uruguay. The politics of Uruguay has nothing to do with his atheism because Uruguay is a secular country that has a higher percentage of theist compared to athiest. It's better to keep quiet than go about insinuating falsehood and lies. The man said he's an athiests and that's all to it.

KingEbukasBlog:


Solomon is a historical figure . I posted a link to a research proving this .

jonbellion:
well even if he is I doubt gr was the wisest man dame way I doubt davids empire was that large
You cant really trust the Jews