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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by precious1967(m): 3:23pm On Dec 16, 2016
hmm.... fake. in which quantity? elephant discovery.

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by FunkyMetahuman: 3:25pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:

Do not say the oil in the north cannot be up to what is in the south, because you are not the one who put the oil there in the ground.

Secondly, hardly would you see any government involved in exploration or prospecting for oil they give exploration and prospecting licenses to corporations. And it is done In the name of the government.
Talking about everyone having their own resource is not like oil, agriculture is everywhere and hardly does any nation envy another for cash or food crop. But oil is a different ball game. Our unity and disunity hangs on oil. Iraq, Lybia, Kuwait, Syria(Isis), all this countries' wars was as a result of oil. In the world today the general notion is "He who controls oil, rules the world" no nation would say "you have oil,I have palmoil so what's the difference". It is an issue of power(money power) I am from the south south and I say to you the north and the oyinbos would kill for our oil. Even tribes within the south south would kill themselves for oil money.
and nations killing themselves over oil should be nations we should emulate right?


California is the 5th largest economy in the world, do you know their source of income? Nothing, just Hollywood.
Where would you rather travel to? Uae, Iraq, Iran Qatar, Afghanistan or California?

If South South controls oil, the north controls mining (remember all south African economy is based on mining) South West controlling cocoa and entertainment, middle bealt controlling agriculture in full scale and south east controlling technology and palm oil (like the Malaysians) every one contributing equally to the economy. And not just sit and wait for monthly allocations from oil, No one will brag about anything.

Controlling the oil doesn't mean shit, oil is everywhere. Make your economy stronger is the Koko.

Saudi was controlling oil since the 90s what changed? America has been the most power country since 1800s and still waxing stronger with or without oil.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by GabdelandAgro(m): 3:39pm On Dec 16, 2016
Oliveronline:


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/crude-oil-discovered-in-borno-state-fg/
I suspect that boko haram has been engaging in secret oil drilling, the whole terrorism thing might be a distraction, same thing happened in syria, ISIS was into illegal oil drilling and trade
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by oloyesaso(m): 3:41pm On Dec 16, 2016
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by cjrane: 3:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
SCAM!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

But seriously, can we then break up the damned sham of a country?

Abookis, since you guys now have oil, courtesy of southern wealth used in exploration.

Can abooki now leave and form their own oil rich Arewastan now?

Yeye people will not agree,because this news is just another SCAM!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by xolomonstrides(m): 3:58pm On Dec 16, 2016
FunkyMetahuman:
and nations killing themselves over oil should be nations we should emulate right?


California is the 5th largest economy in the world, do you know their source of income? Nothing, just Hollywood.
Where would you rather travel to? Uae, Iraq, Iran Qatar, Afghanistan or California?

If South South controls oil, the north controls mining (remember all south African economy is based on mining) South West controlling cocoa and entertainment, middle bealt controlling agriculture in full scale and south east controlling technology and palm oil (like the Malaysians) every one contributing equally to the economy. And not just sit and wait for monthly allocations from oil, No one will brag about anything.

Controlling the oil doesn't mean shit, oil is everywhere. Make your economy stronger is the Koko.

Saudi was controlling oil since the 90s what changed? America has been the most power country since 1800s and still waxing stronger with or without oil.

I made reference to the fighting over oil because you tried to equate oil to agricultural produce.

Nigeria would never know real peace without the issue of sharing oil money being resolved.
Concerning America and Saudi I never mentioned that Saudi controls more oil. US control over most of the worlds oil either personally or by proxy, which is one factor that adds to their world power status, however Saudi is still the largest oil producing nation in the world( ask Google).

All this been said, back to the main issue, considering the fact that Nigeria is not America and we have our peculiar issues. Oil would continue to be our problem. Where we have the south south still feeling that they are being cheated there would still be agitations. Until resource control is approved by the northern dominated legislative, people will still have reason to cry foul. This can only happen if everyone has oil. You would see, that if oil is truly found in the north and even in larger quantity than the south, immediately all the agitations of the South would be settled. Including resource control and probably separation. For me this is good for Nigeria cos I as well as every well meaning Nigerian is tired of all these tension in the country.

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by FunkyMetahuman: 4:58pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:


I made reference to the fighting over oil because you tried to equate oil to agricultural produce.

Nigeria would never know real peace without the issue of sharing oil money being resolved.
Concerning America and Saudi I never mentioned that Saudi controls more oil. US control over most of the worlds oil either personally or by proxy, which is one factor that adds to their world power status, however Saudi is still the largest oil producing nation in the world( ask Google).

All this been said, back to the main issue, considering the fact that Nigeria is not America and we have our peculiar issues. Oil would continue to be our problem. Where we have the south south still feeling that they are being cheated there would still be agitations. Until resource control is approved by the northern dominated legislative, people will still have reason to cry foul. This can only happen if everyone has oil. You would see, that if oil is truly found in the north and even in larger quantity than the south, immediately all the agitations of the South would be settled. Including resource control and probably separation. For me this is good for Nigeria cos I as well as every well meaning Nigerian is tired of all these tension in the country.
it's like you didn't even read a single thing I said. Do you like how it feels when you type?




Google is your friend, America is free largest oil producing nation for more than 5yrars now.

Plus if everyone contributes equally to the economy, will South South continue to feel cheated? Jees
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by xolomonstrides(m): 5:13pm On Dec 16, 2016
FunkyMetahuman:
it's like you didn't even read a single thing I said. Do you like how it feels when you type?




Google is your friend, America is free largest oil producing nation for more than 5yrars now.

Plus if everyone contributes equally to the economy, will South South continue to feel cheated? Jees

You can continue to compare oil with other resources bit reality is that there is no equal as at today maybe in the future, I don't know.

And we were talking about oil and not power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Nobody: 5:13pm On Dec 16, 2016
xelly:
How will students pass current affair with this information. Assuming it is asked " Where was crude oil discovered in Borno" what will be the answer? This government shaa



I can say it for all to hear, NO CRUDE OIL WAS DISCOVERED IN BORNO.
it's all a ploy to get their hands on 13% derivation, every one knows there is nothing like crude oil in commercial quantity anywhere in the north, even though the president is spending scarce resources to look for it by hook or crook

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by FunkyMetahuman: 5:15pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:


You can continue to compare oil with other resources bit reality is that there is no equal as at today maybe in the future, I don't know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
either way, America still the most powerful country in the world.

What does that tell you?
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 16, 2016
Fake news!

Tell us the exact location & the estimated reserve.

Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by xolomonstrides(m): 5:18pm On Dec 16, 2016
FunkyMetahuman:
either way, America still the most powerful country in the world.

What does that tell you?
They control most of the worlds oil individually or by proxy.. That is why the north is more powerful in Nigeria as well, they control Nigeria's oil

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by JoeBlocks(m): 5:19pm On Dec 16, 2016
obailala:

Instead of you to canvass for the families of those who lost their lives not to be neglected, you are calling for total closure of the mine even whilst it is your only source of income. That is what happens when you approach issues purely out of emotions.
Canvass for the family of those who lost their lives not to get neglected? Now if this government knows what its doing in the first place, why would any sane person need to canvass for support for the families of those who lost their lives in the first place.

Yes the country needs a lot of money to diversify, it needs MONEY + TIME.... And for your info, just in case you do not know, it is not the N38bn spent on oil exploration that is preventing diversification, a lot of people seem to mix this up. Like I said before, Diversifying does not entail abandoning a proven source of income; it means 'adding to your source'.

It takes money to make money and for every single oil well feeding the nation today, money was spent to explore and exploit it, and money is still been spent as we speak to further maintain them and sink new ones to be able to sustain our production levels. You (just like many others) obviously have a particular reservation against this case simply because it is in the north, not anything else.
Just a simple question, how much does it take to completely diversify the nigerian economy?

just a reduction in oil prices tumbled Nigeria's econony and here you are still asking why the government us seeking oil. Probably you are one of those who believe the present recession and untold hardship in the country is just buhari's doing and has nothing to do with oil?.. else I wonder why anyone would be asking this question you put up there.

Wherever you read about government not knowing how many oil wells we have, you can do yourself a favour by going back to read the content of the report (not just the title).
The bolded is non sequitor!. The drop of oil prices crashed the nigerian economy, so why is the government seeking oil again in the first place? When oil price has crashed? This doesn't make sense. A sensible government would have looked for an alternate means of income, not looking for crude oil.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by xolomonstrides(m): 5:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
JoeBlocks:
Canvass for the family of those who lost their lives not to get neglected? Now if this government knows what its doing in the first place, why would any sane person need to canvass for support for the families of those who lost their lives in the first place.

Just a simple question, how much does it take to completely diversify the nigerian economy?

The bolded is non sequitor!. The drop of oil prices crashed the nigerian economy, so why is the government seeking oil again in the first place? When oil price has crashed? This doesn't make sense. A sensible government would have looked for an alternate means of income, not looking for crude oil.
Its a case of the forces of demand and supply. Get your facts right, oil prices increased this week with the artificial scarcity ( supply cut) policy of OPEC.

And no one is saying depend solely on oil, diversifying does not mean DO NOT GET INCOME FROM OIL it means getting maximum income from all available potential sources of revenue.
Economist would understand the meaning of UNDEREMPLOYMENT of resources and production below capacity as well as the dangers that come with it.

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by JoeBlocks(m): 5:41pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:

Its a case of the forces of demand and supply. Get your facts right, oil prices increased this week with the artificial scarcity ( supply cut) policy of OPEC.
To how much? Compare that price to what it was last year, before the crash.

And no one is saying depend solely on oil, diversifying does not mean DO NOT GET INCOME FROM OIL it means getting maximum income from all available potential sources of revenue.
Economist would understand the meaning of UNDEREMPLOYMENT of resources and production below capacity as well as the dangers that come with it.
The government is still saying "depend solely on oil" if the government has any plan(s) to diversify, we would have heard about it and see proof.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by FunkyMetahuman: 5:53pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:

They control most of the worlds oil individually or by proxy.. That is why the north is more powerful in Nigeria as well, they control Nigeria's oil
righttttt and European union also controls world oil right? China also controls world oil...
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by xolomonstrides(m): 6:18pm On Dec 16, 2016
JoeBlocks:
To how much? Compare that price to what it was last year, before the crash.

The government is still saying "depend solely on oil" if the government has any plan(s) to diversify, we would have heard about it and see proof.

Did you see 2016 year's budget performance report?

http://punchng.com/70-june-allocation-non-oil-sector-fowler/


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/93607-firs_non-oil_revenue_goes_up.html
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Adminisher: 6:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
carmag:
It will be a well come development in as much as the oil blocks are owned by people from the south to strengthen the spirit of one Nigerianes









January 14th 2017 still on our mind


.

Southerners can apply for oil blocs anywhere in Nigeria.

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by konjinokillme(m): 6:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
aboki
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by ThumbzTNA(m): 6:45pm On Dec 16, 2016
Niger Delta, answer me sincerely, do you like this news or not?

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by bayelsaowei(m): 8:30pm On Dec 16, 2016
DropShot:

Learn about the process of splitting a country.

Some of you think it's a matter of using a pen to do the division on paper.

this guy don loss since o...Guy where you go hide?? cheesy
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by JustMercy: 8:57pm On Dec 16, 2016
Freedom2016:
Ok...good news. Can we now divide the country now? They will say NO because nothing was found, including Lagos. The biggest scam in the world is Lagos putting groundnut oil in a jar, added some black ink, claiming to have found oil. Who puts crude oil in a jar to make a statement if not to deceive people. SMH. There is an axiom...if you truly have something, there is no need proving to have that.

It is obvious you don't know anything about petroleum exploration. Next time don't talk too much on what you don't. Folawiyo is producing oil from their field located offshore Lagos. I have worked on their rock samples. They are not proving anything but making cool money.

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Blue3k(m): 8:59pm On Dec 16, 2016
God for them. Let's see if the give more info on this.

@ABEngine @princejayboss any opinions on this. I remember one of you wrote paper on this. I never got the PM because I asked to read it.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Hemperor50(m): 9:30pm On Dec 16, 2016
DropShot:

Learn about the process of splitting a country.

Some of you think it's a matter of using a pen to do the division on paper.

you've got a poor mentality
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by KevinDein: 10:18pm On Dec 16, 2016
I just came to see the tears of folks down south and I must say I wasn't disappointed grin

Una go die with bitterness and hate tongue

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by BabaRamota1980: 10:34pm On Dec 16, 2016
Oliveronline:


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/crude-oil-discovered-in-borno-state-fg/

and they waited till the eve of Zahra wedding with Borno Oil tycoon to announce this

So can Asari and Tompolo go own oil well for Borno now?
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by Oliveronline: 6:16am On Dec 17, 2016
BabaRamota1980:


and they waited till the eve of Zahra wedding with Borno Oil tycoon to announce this

So can Asari and Tompolo go own oil well for Borno now?
So u didn't see any one in ND to call except those two?
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by obailala(m): 1:07pm On Dec 18, 2016
JoeBlocks:
Canvass for the family of those who lost their lives not to get neglected? Now if this government knows what its doing in the first place, why would any sane person need to canvass for support for the families of those who lost their lives in the first place.
There is a commonsensical statement that when an important appliance is broken, the wise thing to do is to fix it and not throw it away completely. As opposed to looking for a way to solve the problem of the welfare of the families of those who lost their lives, you have proposed we completely quit oil and gas even though it is obvious that we have no other ready alternative income source at the moment. I just pointed out to you how a simple crash in price of oil has totally wrecked the nation. But you really think and insist that a sensible thing to do is for the country to abandon oil in its entirety?... I'm sorry to say this, but you just sound exactly like an emotional young kid who is being spoon fed by parents and who has no idea where the food he eats comes from.


Just a simple question, how much does it take to completely diversify the nigerian economy?
I cannot tell you the exact amount but I know it would definitely take a lot given that the critical infrastructure needed to diversify the economy is all broken or non-existent. For instance, in order to boost agriculture we would need to fix the roads in the country, build new access roads and even develop a robust rail system to connect rural farmers and farms to the market for their goods. Likewise in order to boost industry/manufacturing (which in my opinion is the biggest money spinner as opposed to even agriculture), power supply across the nation has to be fixed. So I would rephrase your question, "How much would it cost to fix Nigerian roads, build modern rails and fix power?"....

JoeBlocks:

The bolded is non sequitor!. The drop of oil prices crashed the nigerian economy, so why is the government seeking oil again in the first place? When oil price has crashed? This doesn't make sense. A sensible government would have looked for an alternate means of income, not looking for crude oil.
Talking of common sense, it doesn't require more than common sense to figure out the answer to your question above. Oil prices crashed and led to REDUCED income for the country; the keyword here is 'REDUCED' and reduced income isn't the same as zero income. Even with the reduced income, oil is still responsible for over 90% of the nation's income. Once again I would reiterate it for your comprehension, diversification does not mean throwing away your ONLY source of income, rather it entails 'adding' to your current income source. Furthermore, diversification cannot be achieved in a split second and a bird in had is worth more than 10 in the bush; this again I say is common sense.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by jpphilips(m): 9:43am On Dec 19, 2016
FunkyMetahuman:
oil money to search for more oil right?
The ones we already have, how much diversification have they done with it?


Why not use the money they are using to look for oil in the desert for agriculture or something meaningful, then we have other source of income, we can start looking for more oil in irrelevant places?

If economy is well diversified, southern oil will rest.
America is the biggest oil producing nation with over 10million barrels of oil a day, if they stop production today, it won't affect their economy 1bit.


Think now. if oil is the only means of generating income, we are left at the mercy of oil prices.
If we have other source of income, even if naija delta say no more oil, Nigeria won't crumble.

By the way, no amount of oil found in the north can ever come close to 10% of what is been drilled in the South.. Why not let everyone have unique thing to brag about for the over all instead of the country instead of oyel oyel.



Do you even understand that Nigeria has a comparative advantage when it comes to oil export? Don't you realise that diversification is a long term process while you have imminent needs, like mouths to feed?
Where will you get the money to diversify with if not where you have invested in the past?
Do you think oil is sold like tomatoes where you go shopping and the grocery have it on display? it is sold with long term contracts laced with several indemnities, that will force you to get an alternative at all cost to keep your market share.
Do you expect India's biggest refineries to shut down because some !diots are roaming the creeks?
why do you think companies declare force majeure for every disruption in supply? for fun? what happens to our market share once we declare force majeure? Do we still have adults on this forum that understand the correct application of common sense?

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Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by jpphilips(m): 9:44am On Dec 19, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:


Are the Northern youths better than their southern counterparts?

Are all the crisis and destruction coming from the North caused by the southerners?

The IDP situation is a pointer to the fact that mismanagement is not a regional issue but a Nation crisis.

Go and investigate lead exploration mess in the north , then come and tell u how oil exploration will be better.



There was a reason the British left leadership in their hands not you.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by ABEngine(m): 9:45am On Dec 19, 2016
Blue3k:
God for them. Let's see if the give more info on this.

@ABEngine @princejayboss any opinions on this. I remember one of you wrote paper on this. I never got the PM because I asked to read it.

Brother I read thus,

Shua’ra, however, failed to state the particular area in Borno State where oil was discovered and if the discovery was in commercial quantity.

The hustle for 13% oil derivation is real. I will hold on further comments till January 2017.
Re: Crude Oil Discovered In Borno State....... FG by jpphilips(m): 9:49am On Dec 19, 2016
RagnarBankz:


How much was invested to find the oil there


Buhari pumped billions of naira just to look for oil!

Can u ask ur self why?


Did u ever heard that Niger delta pumped money to look for oil in their land? Thats what i call NATURAL RESOURES!!!


This is definitely an opinion of someone who spent the best time of his life in IDP's, stop disgracing illiteracy.

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