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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:45pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:

and i keep telling to you that , if Nigeria had or have few industries like Kenya, we would be generating so much power and even sell some to Kenya ....
What's the point of having industries if they can't improve your living standards? I would rather stay in a country with very few industries yet very high living standards like Botswana. Industries are meant to upgrade your living standards, in Nigeria they're apparently doing the opposite if I have to go with what you're saying here so what's the point of having them? Countries get better supply of electricity when they get industrialized, according to you, Nigeria has poor electricity supply because it's industrialized. lol.......you guys are hilarious.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:49pm On Dec 16, 2016
mkenya254:


Agege, Ajegunle, Amukoko, Badia, Bariga, Ijeshatedo/Itire, Ilaje, Iwaya and Makoko


Those places are part of Lagos State. They are not the main Lagos though Lagos has metaphors to become a metropolitan city.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:51pm On Dec 16, 2016
arinzeejikonye:


Im so bemused bro,



Mainland,the last pic 3RDMB saw millers/wood hewers,lagos nigeria.
embarassed nice one bro, but the sad thing is that, Lagos have population of over 18 millions Nairobi have population of less than 5 million people but still have the highest numbers of slums in Africa if not in the world, how can these be, some one should explain it to me please, i am not understating at all? embarassed cry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 8:52pm On Dec 16, 2016
So this 6881 is still crying about Indians and isht. I have seen some stats which rank Kenya above Nigeria on page 220. Kenya ranks higher on HDI. In Kenya people live 10 years more on average. Poverty in Kenya are about 40% whereas in Nigeria it is 60% plus. Citizens get electricity, free medical primary education, civil servants get paid in time and I guess waaaaaaay better. Shows he has nothing to offer than insults. All I can see is a wounded wolf about to die throwing its last kicks

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 8:54pm On Dec 16, 2016
forgiveness:



Those places are part of Lagos State. They are not the main Lagos though Lagos has metaphors to become a metropolitan city.
the funny thing is she scripted the write-up properly as if she had been to Lagos, how can some one that claimed to have been to Lagos call those places slums?,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 8:55pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:

embarassed nice one bro, but the sad thing is that, Lagos have population of over 18 millions Nairobi have population of less than 5 million people but still have the highest numbers of slums in Africa if not in the world, how can these be, some one should explain it to me please, i am not understating at all? embarassed cry


Which we are fixing. Same stats say 66% percent of Lagos lives in some shanty or slum. 66% of 20 million is around lemme see, 13.2 million poverty striken people (3 nairobis) . Lemme repost the screenshot.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 8:59pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:

the funny thing is she scripted the write-up properly as if she had been to Lagos, how can some one that claimed to have been to Lagos call those places slums?,
You claim to have been to Kenya, but you lie all the time to make Kenya look bad mamen, which shows the level of your desperation. Someone posted the owners of the 10 tallest structures after you made some very shitty remarks. You have been to Thika but never have I see you mention it here, you do not mention places like Kahawa Sukari, Ruiru, etc which are on your way to thika which have thousands of built units where people stay. All you talk about is slum slum slum
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


how can Nigerians immigrate illegally to Kenya wen the visa is virtually free and can be obtained from point of entries for only 50Dollers , are your guys sick or what ?

Visa On Arrrival At Nigerian Port Of Entry-Kenya immigration

So according to you any Nigerian can get into Kenya the way he likes? No wonder many of you are caught and harassed by government officials. Ignorance and bad attitude.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:

What's the point of having industries if they can't improve your living standards? I would rather stay in a country with very few industries yet very high living standards like Botswana. Industries are meant to upgrade your living standards, in Nigeria they're apparently doing the opposite if I have to go with what you're saying here so what's the point of having them? Countries get better supply of electricity when they get industrialized, according to you, Nigeria has poor electricity supply because it's industrialized. lol.......you guys are hilarious.

indeed we are, Nigeria is not just Lagos or Abuja or PH OR Even Enugu, Nigeria is bigger than your imagination,
list of industries only in ogun state (very few)
Aluminium Rolling Mills
Apex Paints Ltd
Cometstar Manufacturing Company Ltd
Geepee Industries Limited
GreenTech Industries Ltd
Nampak Bevcan Nigeria
Premier Paints Plc
Royal Packaging Limited
Shongai Packaging Industry Ltd
Veepee Industries Limited
Akintoye Industry
DrugField Pharmaceuticals Ltd
Enkay Plastics Limited
Leadland Carvanising Product Company
SHJ Allied Industries Ltd
Federated Steel Mills, Tower Aluminium, Nigerian Breweries, Nigerian German Chemical and Obasanjo Farms....so many of them, imagine only these industries in Ogun state only, not to mention Onitsha,Lagos,Kano,kaduna,porthacrort ....Nigeria is kenya where all the industires are located at Nairobi and its suburb

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:10pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:


So according to you any Nigerian can get into Kenya the way he likes? No wonder many of you are caught and harassed by government officials. Ignorance and bad attitude.
of course, Nigerians can obtain visa at point entry at your airports, same goes to Kenyans
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:12pm On Dec 16, 2016
ArchieTaylor:

You claim to have been to Kenya, but you lie all the time to make Kenya look bad mamen, which shows the level of your desperation. Someone posted the owners of the 10 tallest structures after you made some very shitty remarks. You have been to Thika but never have I see you mention it here, you do not mention places like Kahawa Sukari, Ruiru, etc which are on your way to thika which have thousands of built units where people stay. All you talk about is slum slum slum
nigger, those places have very few blacks in them, may be few average Kenyans, be sincere to your self, what percentage of Kenyans leaves in slums ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 9:13pm On Dec 16, 2016
http://www.informationng.com/2015/03/lagos-mega-city-or-mega-slum-photos.html
One area that Lagosians have continued to struggle with is housing. The issue of housing is a major challenge in the mega city as residents who cannot afford decent homes, stay in houses that has structural defects, sewage challenges, congestion, lack of ventilation e.t.c

For bleeps sake you got dirt tooo, one nice building surrounded by shaties

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:13pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


obviously, if i have few facilities that consumes less energy i will be able to generate constant electricity don't you think so? ,man, every part of Nigeria have large industries from Kaduna,Kano,IMO.Anambara,Lagos Ogun to Oyo ...unlike Kenya where the few industries are located in Nairobi.

Dude.... countries with more industries have a better supply of electricity. See, more industry means more revenue to the government hence more capacity to generate more electricity and create a better supply system. It also means more jobs to citizens hence more people who can afford electricity. It is interesting how you guys blame your low living standards on your industries - lol. So what's the point of having industries if they bring you misery instead of improved living standards?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 9:18pm On Dec 16, 2016
Someone can tell me show me your city and I can do isht like this. Coz it real.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:18pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:


Dude.... countries with more industries have a better supply of electricity. See, more industry means more revenue to the government hence more capacity to generate more electricity and create a better supply system. It also means more jobs to citizens hence more people who can afford electricity. It is interesting how you guys blame your low living standards on your industries - lol. So what's the point of having industries if they bring you misery instead of improved living standards?
not every one complains , their are lot of jobs in Nigeria but most Nigerians believed that white collar jobs is only job,an average Nigerian mentally is to have cars, house and leave large, any thing outside these, is tagged "Poor" you get it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:19pm On Dec 16, 2016
ArchieTaylor:
Someone can tell me show me your city and I can do isht like this. Coz it real.

u mean all those rusted trains hahahahahah grin?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:21pm On Dec 16, 2016
ArchieTaylor:
http://www.informationng.com/2015/03/lagos-mega-city-or-mega-slum-photos.html
One area that Lagosians have continued to struggle with is housing. The issue of housing is a major challenge in the mega city as residents who cannot afford decent homes, stay in houses that has structural defects, sewage challenges, congestion, lack of ventilation e.t.c

For bleeps sake you got dirt tooo, one nice building surrounded by shaties
where in Lagos is that ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:25pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


Great!, (Britam Tower is a 31 storey building under construction in Upper Hill) while eko towers is 34,33,32,28..), Nairobifirstly British American Investment Company (Mauritius) owned Britam Holdings Limited, previously known by as British-American Investments Company Kenyans only have shares of the building at the stock markets
"t[b]he group's operations commenced in Kenya in 1965 with the opening of the first office in Nairobi as a foreign branch of British-American Insurance Company Limited, headquartered in the Bahamas[/b]. A local company was incorporated on 14 November 1979 as British-American Insurance Company (Kenya) Limited under the Companies Act as a private limited liability company following a government directive that all branches of foreign owned insurance companies must be incorporated locally. By this time, the Company had established nine branches across Kenya. This local incorporation represented the first step in the localisation of the Company. In 1984, local Kenyan investors acquired 33.33 percent of the shareholding in line with government directives



Lol......even when you're given evidence you try pathetically to disparage it. But Kongobi got you this time - you only managed to touch a single building there. Typical Nigerian attitude. Meanwhile the Eko Atlantic you're bragging of is being done by the Lebanese - how a big country like Nigeria becomes slave to a tiny country like Lebanon is beyond logic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:27pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


ok ,my question ,why would Nigerians want to stay in Kenya of all places illegally.like seriously, if at all Nigerians stays illegally is Kenya, its only because the immigration wont grant them their renewals on time even haven applied for long is not that they cant afford to pay it and whose fault is that?,

That's a question you should be answering us - why do you all want to stay in Kenya illegally knowing you'd be harassed if caught yet you hate Kenyans so much?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:29pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


what is the distance between thika and Nairobi, many people usually call thika extension of Nairobi plus how comes their very few industries outside Nairobi or may be thika, so you think Nigeria don't refine it oil, u must be crazy,plus, the world largest refinery is under construction and will be commission in the year 2019 by dongete ?
Dangote to Increase Refinery Capacity to 650,000bpd | Sustainable .. http://www.tsbreview.com/dangote-to-increase-refinery-capacity-to-650000bpd/

Where do the revenue from your so called industries go to since you still have lower living standards than us and poor electricity supply than us?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:30pm On Dec 16, 2016
mkenya254:


I lived stayed in VI for 2wks at the Radisson Blu Hotel and Ikoyi at the Southern Sun for a week. During the time I visited some clients in Lekki, Yaba and also some famous clubs in Sululeri e. G. Lighthouse.


Lekki seems to be more of a nice apartment complex area with VI and Ikoyi having more stand alone houses. I think they have wealthier people saying there. There are more modern architecture like buildings in Nairobi while Lagos buildings have more of a traditional feel despite being huge as well

VI is very poorly planned and I hated the way the ocean looks so polluted especially on the long bridge going to visit from the mainland. There is also a very large floating slum there.

I would prefer the affluent kenyan neighborhoods of Nairobi compared to Lagos. This is because in Nairobi has a lot of forests in the town actually. So you have very beautiful greenery views though it is quite colder (13-24) degrees annually. But maybe because I am not used to the heat of Lagos being at sea level and Nairobi being at 5800 ft above sea level. There is also generally more to see in Nairobi since you can do safari drive inside Nairobi, there are quite a number of zoos. The Las Vegas of Kenya(Naivasha and Nakuru) are also short drives away from Nairobi

I also saw the king of yoruba who came to dine at Southern Sun quite a number of times. I was so shocked that a bunch of old people followed him ringing bells etc and that even very educated looking people bowed to him. I thought the Kings were just elements of Nollywood.

Yaba and Sululeri seem not so safe areas especially after dark for the foreigner. Also Ikeja. I also hated the fact that when you are a foreigner everybody keeps asking you for money even some people I asked for directions to the washroom at the airport shocked!!, club bouncers etc.

Taxis are very old and run down but Ubers are very clean and new. But taxis are way cheaper than Nairobi with a taxi in Nairobi charging double the Uber rate at any time.

Something else I did not understand is why buying a Sim card takes almost 30mins with fingerprints etc. I also noticed data is way more expensive there compared to Kenya. For example, I have 30Mbps cable Internet and TV at my house than I only play 56 dollars for monthly. Mobile data costs me 10USD for 3Gb data from the most expensive telco locally.

Most people from your country love sweet liquor, Orijin and Andre champagne in the clubs. Kenyans like bitter alcohol so I felt as if I was taking fruit juice drinking Orijin smiley And alcohol is quite cheap compared to Kenya. That I like smiley with a 750ml heineken or orijin bottle going for around 2-3Usd while in Kenya 300ml of Heineken costs you 3-5Usd depending on the location. Locally brewed beers are 2-3USD but sold as 500ml.

Cost of living is just slightly cheaper than Kenya as well. I loved the Nigerian cuisine though like most Kenyans who travel to Nigeria I couldn't handle the extreme Chilli in all your dishes shocked

People are generally friendly(African culture) but there are also a lot of people looking to cheat you on the streets as with any African country I assume. I couldn't understand why the airport authority in Nigeria let's a bunch of people in the airport who are not Travellers hence I had to bribe to even get to the airline desk. About 3000naira. Kenya is very corrupt but that is only in the police force and politicians. In Nigeria to even get directions you pay

Nigerian women are pretty but I don't understand why there is so much bleaching and wigs though. I thought Kenyan women put on a lot of make up until I saw Nigerian ladies. That was a disappointment. This frenzy is sadly becoming introduced in Kenya by Nigerians as you see with socialites such as Vera. This is such a shame as Africans should appreciate dark skin. But as much as Nigerian women are beautiful I noticed Kenyan women have more booty in case that tickles your fancy cheesy cheesy

Affluent Nigerians like the Mercedes G class while Affluent Kenyans like the Range Rover. The Honda is very popular in Nigeria while in Kenya it has less than 3% market share with Toyota being the primary car for the ordinary Kenyan.

Shopping for clothes in Nigeria is a better experience(more designer brands) than Kenya though for restaurants I think Kenya leads since any mall easily has 5-10 different restaurant chains even the smaller malls like Diamond Plaza.

Music in Nigeria is ahead of Kenya since all clubs play only Nigerian music with a few Jazz at hotel bars. Kenyans primarily listen to Jamaican riddim/raga, hip hop, Kenyan and Nigerian music, bongo then SA Kwaito in that order. Jazz and country is also common in better restaurants.

In terms of traffic, both Nairobi and Lagos are similar. Traffic at the Lekki toll station is as much as traffic on Mombasa road in Nairobi.

For public vehicles, Nairobi has loud and very pimped matatus so that may not be comfortable while Lagos has very old ones.. Can't recall their name. Both are however prone to pick pocketing. I never boarded the Lagos ones but I was told that I should avoid them and only use taxis or the company car.

Nairobi is undergoing more road expansions though but the proposed introduction of toll gates may result to a Lekki traffic situation. Time will tell.

Large businesses in Nigeria seem to be predominantly international companies e.g. Shoprite while Kenya has more local successes even though some are owned by indigenous Indians e.g. Nakumatt and Bidco



Hehehehe! With what you have written I can see you really experienced Lagos. However, I will like to correct some things.


The Lagoon you crossed through the long bridge is not an ocean, it is just what I called it and the floating slum had already been cleared. It means you came some few years ago. When was it?


About the king, there is nothing like Yoruba King but there are many Yoruba kings. What will you say about the motionless police stationed at Buckingham Palace? Or the Masai that still practice their culture? grin Na normal thing for human being. grin

It depends on the area you go to in those areas because there are some places well secure like Ogunlana axis, Adeniran Ogunsanya axis, Ikeja gra etcetera.

Buying sim cards with thumb print is necessary because of security issues eg boko harem


Did you see BRT (Bus rapid transport) in Lagos?

Lagos airport is under going serious restructuring and reconstruction. That is why I am asking when you visited Lagos.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


obviously the developed part of NAIROBI is small, but how far is thika to kasarani, i am not talking about distance to CBD ?

Meanwhile The whole of Lagos mainland is a dump - a slum by Kenyan standards. hosting over 10M people.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


WE Talking about real height(floors) not useless extension, how many floors is Britam?

Height is measured in metres - stupid.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:33pm On Dec 16, 2016
mkenya254:


Where is the proof that 70% of residents live in slums.i have proof that 66% of people living in Lagos live in slums http://borgenproject.org/poverty-lagos-nigeria/

Thank you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:34pm On Dec 16, 2016
ArchieTaylor:

In Westlands they are building six highrise buildings a once btw 176m/141m/93m/86m/83m/81m | 43/35/28/25/24/24 fl U/C
Using maths then the highest tower in Eko can be is around 135m. 176m 43 floors still shorter that Britam btw

You forgot to mention the tallest building in Africa (and also the most magnificent), The Hass/Jabavu Tower is under construction in Nairobi at 66 and 45 floors and 300m and 201m
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 9:36pm On Dec 16, 2016
These are some non black hawkers. Here you can see a Japanese hawker and some Kenyan hawker in Nairobi. Japan is a very industrialised country yet you find such people on the streets, and this is how some of your naija blodas live like in Kenya. yes some live well but a majority are poor students and other immigrants. The third one is a chinese hawker in mlolongo, a not so fancy place. This is the same Mlolongo 17 Nigerians were arrested
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000216966/17-nigerians-arrested-in-nairobi-for-being-in-kenya-illegally
https://www.tuko.co.ke/144799-see-a-photo-of-the-japanese-hawker-causing-a-stir-on-nairobi-streets.html
And the last one is some chinese guy trying his luck with clothes

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:37pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:

"Britam Tower | Upper Hill | is just 200m | 31 fl | " meaning the rest of the building is just an extended steels .. Eko pearl(Lagos) can also decides to add same extended steel to its build and tag it "Tallest building in Africa"..so what?

Several pages ago you bragged how NECOM Tower in Lagos was constructed in the 80s while Kenya began constructing tall buildings recently, how come you never realized that NECOM was only that tall because of the spire? Again I like the way you changed the topic from ownership to height when you were given facts on ownership. lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kongobi: 9:37pm On Dec 16, 2016
68816419:


u mean all those rusted trains hahahahahah grin?

that is a meuseum on the old meter gauge trains
the new freight trains of kenya are able to carry double stacked wagons like CSX, on a new standard guage rail ,











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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:38pm On Dec 16, 2016
Boyedex:

Yes we do have problems with our refineries. Bad governance of many years made them moribund. Yes it's bad for a gigantic country like Nigeria, so you can laugh over it all you can, but trust me your jests are gonna be short-lived.
One of the biggest refineries in the world is already underway. With a production capacity that will see Nigeria exporting it's excess by 2018/2019, just two years from now.
The construction has numerous effects including the generation of 12000MW electricity as well as fertilizers and many other derivatives for export.
This time it's not a government venture, it's private and the antecedents of the owner have always proved successful and timely.

You always speak of the future when you're cornered as if other countries have no future and no plans. Silly boy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:39pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:


Lol......even when you're given evidence you try pathetically to disparage it. But Kongobi got you this time - you only managed to touch a single building there. Typical Nigerian attitude. Meanwhile the Eko Atlantic you're bragging of is being done by the Lebanese - how a big country like Nigeria becomes slave to a tiny country like Lebanon is beyond logic.

Dubai is done by Germans,Americans chines but who owned the buildings ? , in Kenya , Avic at west-land, two river mall and other development are built and owned by Chinese and Indians , go to west-land, parkland and point out any development been owned by black Kenyans? eko Atlantic is been done by Lebanese but not owned.
this are biggest construction projects in Kenya can you please tell me who owned them?
1. Garden City Mall?
2. The Two Rivers Mall?
3. Comesa Shopping Mall?
4 Ananas Mall in Thika Town?
5 Rosslyn Riviera Mall in Runda?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArchieTaylor: 9:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:


You forgot to mention the tallest building in Africa (and also the most magnificent), The Hass/Jabavu Tower is under construction in Nairobi at 66 and 45 floors and 300m and 201m

He was bragging about Eko city building four at once and I showed him in westlands they are constructing six at once. I mentioned Hass a few pages back, and actually I hear it will be 330m tall not 300m as earlier indicated. And I hear CPF want to equal that building maybe better its height
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:41pm On Dec 16, 2016
NairobiWalker:


Meanwhile The whole of Lagos mainland is a dump - a slum by Kenyan standards. hosting over 10M people.

you mean like this ones ?

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