randomperson:

Which data are talking about!? Because there is a manuscript means it must exist??
Okay, lemme give another analogy that might be more apt... Prove there are no aliens... Because there are reports of alien sightings... So prove they don't exist

Speak with jonbellion because I asked him same thing I will ask you.

Are aliens deities?

KingEbukasBlog:


Now we are talking . So let's hear it . Please don't rehash the death , diseases , poverty argument . I'm tired of repeating the same rebuttal .

Before you respond , note that the probability the universe came by chance is highly inconceivable and insignificant . You may now continue .

You theists have never debunked the death, disease and suffering argument.

You have never debunked it, you just run away when the heat is much and later come back to claim that you won the argument.

damogul:



Are any of those deities?

no they are not
But there have been documented occurrences of them all
So with your earlier comment they must exist

LiberaDeus:


You theists have never debunked the death, disease and suffering argument.

You have never debunked it, you just run away when the heat is much and later come back to claim that you won the argument.

What part of your brain refuses to accept the purpose of this thread?

LiberaDeus:


You theists have never debunked the death, disease and suffering argument.

You have never debunked it, you just run away when the heat is much and later come back to claim that you won the argument.

lmaoooooorotfllwkmd

jonbellion:
no they are not
But there have been documented occurrences of them all
So with your earlier comment they must exist

So if they are not deities will you call yourself intelligent by using them to make a God comparison?

damogul:



What part of your brain refuses to accept the purpose of this thread?

My brother,
The whole brain.
Everything

felixomor:


You just equated sex to marriage.
Am I surprised?
For your level, No i am not.

Animals have sex, they dont get married.

Besides u just made a claim on human anthropology, with no evidence again.
And if u say there was nothing like first man on earth.

And with the same mouth, u said humans "started worshipping"
The same mouth that said man had to be indoctrinated.

Somethings are obviously wrong.

Obviously you are more interested in attacking a straw man. Sex exist in nature marriage does not. Men thought themselves how to marry women. I was just trying to show that sex exist in nature but marriage does not just forgot to add the marriage part.

Read up on human anthropology and learn.

The people that invented the God idea had to indoctrinate others. Just as when the whites conquered your lands and systematically made your ancestors to stop worshipping the Gods they were worshipping which was their own creation and accept their version of God and accept their religion. Even though your ancestors did not invent the God idea they had to indoctrinate your parents and your parents had to also indoctrinate you and you in turn will have to indoctrinate your Kids to accept a God idea that wasn't yours but that of the white man.

dalaman:

Any signature that reads and serves and evidence to show that a particularGod created nature. We humNs always have our signature on things we create. Where is God's signature in nature?

How can we identify a signature in nature from a deity ? Let's assume the creator never used a signature in Nature , how can we ascertain He created it then ?

Please be reminded that I'm working with your premise .

It only shows that humans have the ability to assign agency to things. After all we came down from people that used to worship natural elements like the sun, mountains, rivers.thunder etc.

Elements in nature were worshiped because of their importance to the continuation of human life . The same way people in authority were deified - worshiped as gods - because of the role they play in the society . This does not in any way disprove the existence of the Supreme Being .

Not true because evolution accounts for consiousness and intelligence. It offers some explanation. You and I might not accept it but an explanation has been given for consiousness and intelligence that has nothing to do with any intelligent creator. So your assertion that such cannot exist without an intelligent creator is not true.

Evolution does not disprove God . An intelligent creator can orchestrate natural processes involved in evolution . Epic fail .

damogul:


So if they are not deities will you call yourself intelligent by using them to make a God comparison?

.....
*facepalm*

KingEbukasBlog:


How can we identify a signature in nature from a deity ? Let's assume the creator never used a signature in Nature , how can we ascertain He created it then ?

Please be reminded that I'm working with your premise .



Elements in nature were worshiped because of their importance to the continuation of human life . The same way people in authority were deified - worshiped as gods - because of the role they play in the society . This does not in any way disprove the existence of the Supreme Being .



Evolution does not disprove God . An intelligent creator can orchestrate natural processes involved in evolution . Epic fail .

you're right
Evolution does not disprove god
Evolution disproves your version of god
It disproves a literal bible account
That's why you and your pals are against it so much

dalaman:


Obviously you are more interested in attacking a straw man. Sex exist in nature marriage does not. Men thought themselves how to marry women. I was just trying to show that sex exist in nature but marriage does not just forgot to add the marriage part.

Read up on human anthropology and learn.

The people that invented the God idea had to indoctrinate others. Just as when the whites conquered your lands and systematically made your ancestors to stop worshipping the Gods they were worshipping which was their own creation and accept their version of God and accept their religion. Even though your ancestors did not invent the God idea they had to indoctrinate your parents and your parents had to also indoctrinate you and you in turn will have to indoctrinate your Kids to accept a God idea that wasn't yours but that of the white man.

WTF and face palm.

Men taught themselves how to marry women?

Can you show me your supporting data for this?

LiberaDeus:


You theists have never debunked the death, disease and suffering argument.

You have never debunked it, you just run away when the heat is much and later come back to claim that you won the argument.

It has been debunked numerous times ad nauseum .

damogul:



So now you are switching to evolution yet earlier you subscribed to creation but not by religious standards.

WTF!

I only talk of things that are known. Scientifically a first man is impossible. It has nothing to do with evolution. We can use DNA to trace the first man if there is any such thing. But there is nothing like that. That knowledge is actually what drove some christians to begin the theistic evolution movement.

dalaman:


Obviously you are more interested in attacking a straw man. Sex exist in nature marriage does not. Men thought themselves how to marry women. I was just trying to show that sex exist in nature but marriage does not just forgot to add the marriage part.

Read up on human anthropology and learn.

The people that invented the God idea had to indoctrinate others. Just as when the whites conquered your lands and systematically made your ancestors to stop worshipping the Gods they were worshipping which was their own creation and accept their version of God and accept their religion. Even though your ancestors did not invent the God idea they had to indoctrinate your parents and your parents had to also indoctrinate you and you in turn will have to indoctrinate your Kids to accept a God idea that wasn't yours but that of the white man.

You have made 2 bold claims again.
Give evidence how man taught himself how to marry na?
Give the names and history.

Give evidence and name of the man who invented the God indoctrination.

If u dodge this questions, like u refused to pledge on the "bacteria mind" issue, I will personally drag you for a long time

jonbellion:
you're right
Evolution does not disprove god
Evolution disproves your version of god
It disproves a literal bible account
That's why you and your pals are against it so much

There are Christians who see the creation story as an allegory . There are so many Christians who are evolutionists on this forum .

damogul:



Are any of those deities?

It's a friggin' analogy... There are documented reports about the Bermuda triangle, just like there is of God. Prove that all those don't exist. U can't... Why?? Because u don't prove negative. Not even in a court of law

KingEbukasBlog:


There are Christians who see the creation story as an allegory . There are so many Christians who are evolutionists on this forum .

I personally find that strange

dalaman:


I only talk of things that are known. Scientifically a first man is impossible. It has nothing to do with evolution. We can use DNA to trace the first man if there is any such thing. But there is nothing like that. That knowledge is actually what drove some christians to begin the theistic evolution movement.

You talk of things that are known? By whom scientists? Evolutionists? The same evolutionists who are still in a quagmire about nature and origin of life?

Is there something you know they do not?

Where is your proof that nen taught themselves how to marry?

Meanwhile you said we can use DNA to trace the first man...Really?

I cannot even begin to define the kind of facepalm to give you right now.

LiberaDeus:


You theists have never debunked the death, disease and suffering argument.

You have never debunked it, you just run away when the heat is much and later come back to claim that you won the argument.

That's kingebukasblog's style... U noticed he hasn't replied my comment since

randomperson:

It's a friggin' analogy... There are documented reports about the Bermuda triangle, just like there is of God. Prove that all those don't exist. U can't... Why?? Because u don't prove negative. Not even in a court of law

An analogy built on a faulty premise is a false one. learn that till you understand it.

damogul:



What part of your brain refuses to accept the purpose of this thread?

Brother Dami, I hail. When are we going for watchnight service where you can pray for hours and speak in tongues even though by the next day you would be swearing and cursing every thing and person that challenges you.

Thats why i like you. You are so christlike

dalaman:


Any signature that reads and serves and evidence to show that a particularGod created nature. We humNs always have our signature on things we create. Where is God's signature in nature?

Xenophanes in his criticism of anthropomorphism said that God does not resemble humans in form or in mind . Signature is a way of showing ownership for humans . God is a not a human , so why would God who is not human leave a signature in Nature ?

Please leave me transfixed with your response .

damogul:


WTF and face palm.

Men taught themselves how to marry women?

Can you show me your supporting data for this?

Go and study the history of marriage and how it evolved. The caveman didn't know anything like marriage. Men thought themselves and created most things. Language, writing, culture, laws, religion etc men created and thought themselves all these things.

KingEbukasBlog:


There are Christians who see the creation story as an allegory . There are so many Christians who are evolutionists on this forum .

The bible says something happened, u are hear saying it might be an allegory. So, tell us, which one is it or u can't make up your mind

damogul:


An analogy built on a faulty premise is a false one. learn that till you understand it.

Utter crap again... Show why this analogy is faulty and stop making bland statements that go to no issue

dalaman:


Go and study the history of marriage and how it evolved. The caveman didn't know anything like marriage. Men thought themselves and created most things. Language, writing, culture, laws, religion etc men created and thought themselves all these things.

Here we go again with this fallacy of hasty generalization...


History of cavemen? Documented by who? Cavemen?

were you there when they were teaching themselves?

I have asked you before if you know what a HYPOTHESIS is?

Is the history of man or marriage a HYPOTHESIS or not? Give me an answer.

KingEbukasBlog:


There are Christians who see the creation story as an allegory . There are so many Christians who are evolutionists on this forum .

Is the creation story in the bible and allegory or not?what is your Gods position on that? Does he want anybody to know his position?

randomperson:

The bible says something happened, u are hear saying it might be an allegory. So, tell us, which one is it or u can't make up your mind

My preference is not necessary and my reticence does not affect my argument in anyway .

dalaman:


Is the creation story in the bible and allegory or not?what is your Gods position on that? Does he want anybody to know his position?

if you take just one of the stories in the bible as an allegory everything crumbles
That's why MrPresident1 is the way he is

KingEbukasBlog:


Xenophanes in his criticism of anthropomorphism said that God does not resemble humans in form or in mind . Signature is a way of showing ownership for humans . God is a not a human , so why would God who is not human leave a signature in Nature ?

Please leave me transfixed with your response .

Man is supposedly created in god's image... So I agree god is not a human but humans are like god

dalaman:


Is the creation story in the bible and allegory or not?what is your Gods position on that? Does he want anybody to know his position?

Your preference of creation story -allegorical or literal- is not a prerequisite for eternal life , salvation is . Christianity does not lay any emphasis on how the creation story should be seen . Its a personal choice .